{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5983", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5983, "subject": "Mostly Spoiler Free Thoughts on Home Fires", "messages": 7, "voices": 4, "first": "2011-03-02T17:55:26+00:00", "last": "2011-03-03T03:28:23+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2011-03-02T17:55:26+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Mostly Spoiler Free Thoughts on Home Fires", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Well, first of all, there seems to be a complete lack of wolves. Not a\none, unless I missed something.\n\nThe \"meditation\" sections often seem to be lessons from Gene Wolfe\nabout how to reason out the plot details of his novels.\n\nThis is one of the most emotionally satisfying books GW has ever written.\n\nKind of shapeless, plotwise." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4D6E93F5.1070701@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2011-03-02T19:01:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Mostly Spoiler Free Thoughts on Home Fires", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 3/2/2011 11:55 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\nWell, first of all, there seems to be a complete lack of wolves. Not a\none, unless I missed something.\n\nThe \"meditation\" sections often seem to be lessons from Gene Wolfe\nabout how to reason out the plot details of his novels.\n\nThis is one of the most emotionally satisfying books GW has ever written.\n\nKind of shapeless, plotwise." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It's boy meets girl overall, with pirates and spies and a whodunnit as \nthe obstacles to overcome.\n\nThere's also almost a total lack of technical detail of any kind, and \nthe SFnal elements are barely more than tokens." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nComputational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana\n< http://www.tamut.edu/CIL >" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2011-03-02T19:47:02+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Mostly Spoiler Free Thoughts on Home Fires", "in_reply_to": "<4D6E93F5.1070701@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Jeff Wilson wrote:\nThere's also almost a total lack of technical detail of any kind, and the\nSFnal elements are barely more than tokens." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "When you say technical detail I agree -- but there is a lot of stfnal\ncontent, it's just that that content is mostly social speculation\nshoved into the background." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Son of Witz", "address": "sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org" }, "date": "2011-03-02T19:52:39+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Mostly Spoiler Free Thoughts on Home Fires", "in_reply_to": "<4D6E93F5.1070701@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mar 2, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:\nOn 3/2/2011 11:55 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Well, first of all, there seems to be a complete lack of wolves. Not a\none, unless I missed something.\n\nThe \"meditation\" sections often seem to be lessons from Gene Wolfe\nabout how to reason out the plot details of his novels.\n\nThis is one of the most emotionally satisfying books GW has ever written.\n\nKind of shapeless, plotwise." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "It's boy meets girl overall, with pirates and spies and a whodunnit as the obstacles to overcome.\n\nThere's also almost a total lack of technical detail of any kind, and the SFnal elements are barely more than tokens." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Glad to hear. I've been waiting for a simple review like this." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dave Tallman", "address": "davetallman at msn.com" }, "date": "2011-03-03T00:42:22+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Mostly Spoiler Free Thoughts on Home Fires", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\n\nWell, first of all, there seems to be a complete lack of wolves. Not a one," }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "unless I missed something." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Chelle mentions that in the army they \"ate like wolves and slept like\nbabies.\"\n\nAt one point there's a dog and a goat in the road. Skip thinks the goat\nlooks Satanic. Does that mean the dog is like God?" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4D6F0913.6000501@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2011-03-03T03:20:51+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Mostly Spoiler Free Thoughts on Home Fires", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 3/2/2011 1:47 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\nJeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "There's also almost a total lack of technical detail of any kind, and the\nSFnal elements are barely more than tokens." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "When you say technical detail I agree -- but there is a lot of stfnal\ncontent, it's just that that content is mostly social speculation\nshoved into the background." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "hmm, not spoilery, so I'll just say that aside from the inherent Forever \nWar premise in the promotion, I can't think of anything that has to be \nSFnally justified for things to progress the way they did, except maybe \nfor one of the mistaken identities, which could be done with the usual \ndevices though it would take a rather unwieldy pile of them.\n\nOh, and rather a lot of the detective work is Columbo-style. Skip \nbecomes privy to a lot of the stuff that would be a deep dark mystery in \nother Wolfe books, but he (and the reader) have to really work on *why* \nsuch a thing was done, and how to catch or just stop the antagonists." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nComputational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana\n< http://www.tamut.edu/CIL >" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4D6F0AD7.2000209@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2011-03-03T03:28:23+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Mostly Spoiler Free Thoughts on Home Fires", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 3/2/2011 1:52 PM, Son of Witz wrote:\n\n\nOn Mar 2, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On 3/2/2011 11:55 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Well, first of all, there seems to be a complete lack of wolves. Not a\none, unless I missed something.\n\nThe \"meditation\" sections often seem to be lessons from Gene Wolfe\nabout how to reason out the plot details of his novels.\n\nThis is one of the most emotionally satisfying books GW has ever written.\n\nKind of shapeless, plotwise." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "It's boy meets girl overall, with pirates and spies and a whodunnit as the obstacles to overcome.\n\nThere's also almost a total lack of technical detail of any kind, and the SFnal elements are barely more than tokens." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Glad to hear. I've been waiting for a simple review like this." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Paypal may be sent to the address below." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nComputational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana\n< http://www.tamut.edu/CIL >" } ] } ] }