{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/6001", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 6001, "subject": "How *we* can get a special new \"retro\" edition of BotNS", "messages": 8, "voices": 6, "first": "2011-05-02T17:03:34+00:00", "last": "2011-05-02T21:54:44+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<92EA1A5B-BB6A-4404-A0EA-BB67D1915876@epix.net>", "from": { "name": "Derek Beyer", "address": "dbeyer at epix.net" }, "date": "2011-05-02T17:03:34+00:00", "subject": "(urth) How *we* can get a special new \"retro\" edition of BotNS", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Gollancz is holding a poll of fantasy and sci-fi novels presently. The top 5 in each category will get a special retro-edition printed. The Book of the New Sun is under the fantasy heading. So go! Vote! Multiple times! Tell your friends and family!\n\nhttp://www.gollancz50.com/" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Gerry Quinn", "address": "gerryq at indigo.ie" }, "date": "2011-05-02T17:21:20+00:00", "subject": "(urth) How *we* can get a special new \"retro\" edition of BotNS", "in_reply_to": "<92EA1A5B-BB6A-4404-A0EA-BB67D1915876@epix.net>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": " ----- Original Message ----- \n From: Derek Beyer \n To: urth at lists.urth.net \n Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:03 PM\n Subject: (urth) How *we* can get a special new \"retro\" edition of BotNS\n\n\n Gollancz is holding a poll of fantasy and sci-fi novels presently. The top 5 in each category will get a special retro-edition printed. The Book of the New Sun is under the fantasy heading. So go! Vote! Multiple times! Tell your friends and family! \n\n\n http://www.gollancz50.com/\n\nHmmm, BotNS is somewhat misplaced in Fantasy. I had to pick the Vance, which I also love and which better fits the category. Hyperion was my SF choice.\n\n- Gerry Quinn" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2011-05-02T17:25:24+00:00", "subject": "(urth) How *we* can get a special new \"retro\" edition of BotNS", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "As usual, women are grossly underrepresented in these lists. I voted\nfor Joanna Russ and Hope Mirlees." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Gerry Quinn wrote:\n\n\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: Derek Beyer\nTo: urth at lists.urth.net\nSent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:03 PM\nSubject: (urth) How *we* can get a special new \"retro\" edition of BotNS\nGollancz is holding a poll of fantasy and sci-fi novels presently. The top 5\nin each category will get a special retro-edition printed. The Book of the\nNew Sun is under the fantasy heading. So go! Vote! Multiple times! Tell your\nfriends and family!\nhttp://www.gollancz50.com/\n\n\nHmmm, BotNS is somewhat misplaced in Fantasy. I had to pick the Vance,\nwhich I also love and which better fits the category. Hyperion was my SF\nchoice.\n\n- Gerry Quinn\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Daniel Petersen", "address": "danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com" }, "date": "2011-05-02T19:28:54+00:00", "subject": "(urth) How *we* can get a special new \"retro\" edition of BotNS", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I'm scandalized that you loyal urth list folks are voting other than the\nmighty Wolfe! Treason! (Though I agree BotNS might be better placed in sf.\n I also voted Hyperion in sf!)\n\nDOJP" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\nAs usual, women are grossly underrepresented in these lists. I voted\nfor Joanna Russ and Hope Mirlees.\n\nOn Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Gerry Quinn wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "----- Original Message -----\nFrom: Derek Beyer\nTo: urth at lists.urth.net\nSent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:03 PM\nSubject: (urth) How *we* can get a special new \"retro\" edition of BotNS\nGollancz is holding a poll of fantasy and sci-fi novels presently. The\ntop 5\nin each category will get a special retro-edition printed. The Book of\nthe\nNew Sun is under the fantasy heading. So go! Vote! Multiple times! Tell\nyour\nfriends and family!\nhttp://www.gollancz50.com/\n\n\nHmmm, BotNS is somewhat misplaced in Fantasy. I had to pick the Vance,\nwhich I also love and which better fits the category. Hyperion was my SF\nchoice.\n\n- Gerry Quinn\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<07205301-12C5-4C2F-8065-0C7DF3ECEF20@epix.net>", "from": { "name": "Derek Beyer", "address": "dbeyer at epix.net" }, "date": "2011-05-02T19:54:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) How *we* can get a special new \"retro\" edition of BotNS", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "*sigh* Should've known. I myself found out from a blog post encouraging people to vote for Name of the Wind. While BotNS is miscategorized (understandably for a Sci-Fantasy) I still hope having announced it here will draw in a lot more Wolfe votes." } ] }, { "message_id": "<1AFDDC3C-F41E-41DC-AF16-6CB0AFB2726A@butcherbaker.org>", "from": { "name": "Son of Witz", "address": "sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org" }, "date": "2011-05-02T20:46:00+00:00", "subject": "(urth) How *we* can get a special new \"retro\" edition of BotNS", "in_reply_to": "<07205301-12C5-4C2F-8065-0C7DF3ECEF20@epix.net>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I'll never understand these catagories.\nHow could BotNS NOT be fantasy? It's a fantastic fantasy.\n\n~Mike" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On May 2, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Derek Beyer wrote:\n*sigh* Should've known. I myself found out from a blog post encouraging people to vote for Name of the Wind. While BotNS is miscategorized (understandably for a Sci-Fantasy) I still hope having announced it here will draw in a lot more Wolfe votes.\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4DBF2710.2070007@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "crushtv at gmail.com" }, "date": "2011-05-02T21:50:08+00:00", "subject": "(urth) How *we* can get a special new \"retro\" edition of BotNS", "in_reply_to": "<1AFDDC3C-F41E-41DC-AF16-6CB0AFB2726A@butcherbaker.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Wolfe, Vance, and CS Lewis are genre-busters. They need a category for \nthemselves. I suppose Burroughs' Mars stories would go there. Maybe some \nof Bradbury's stuff. The new Doctor Who series tilts more toward Fantasy \nthan SF now IMO." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 5/2/2011 3:46 PM, Son of Witz wrote:\nI'll never understand these catagories.\nHow could BotNS NOT be fantasy? It's a fantastic fantasy.\n\n~Mike" } ] }, { "message_id": "<2720E0EC-A004-40EB-8C8D-F1B11A588F31@butcherbaker.org>", "from": { "name": "Son of Witz", "address": "sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org" }, "date": "2011-05-02T21:54:44+00:00", "subject": "(urth) How *we* can get a special new \"retro\" edition of BotNS", "in_reply_to": "<4DBF2710.2070007@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Agreed.\nGenre classifications are useful only for selling stuff to people anyway. They have little other use." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On May 2, 2011, at 2:50 PM, James Wynn wrote:\nWolfe, Vance, and CS Lewis are genre-busters. They need a category for themselves. I suppose Burroughs' Mars stories would go there. Maybe some of Bradbury's stuff. The new Doctor Who series tilts more toward Fantasy than SF now IMO.\n\nOn 5/2/2011 3:46 PM, Son of Witz wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I'll never understand these catagories.\nHow could BotNS NOT be fantasy? It's a fantastic fantasy.\n\n~Mike\n_______________________________________________" } ] } ] }