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  "thread": {
    "id": 6048,
    "subject": "Steampunk",
    "messages": 2,
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    "first": "2011-08-10T03:19:55+00:00",
    "last": "2011-08-10T03:31:42+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<CAJ8=rtjn9UCh90=euahYK2w6wAS1jHp_vdcOdnjAaVre8Azuow@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes",
        "address": "danldo at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2011-08-10T03:19:55+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Steampunk",
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          "text": "I've really enjoyed Cherie Priest's \"Clockwork Century\" novels,\nBONESHAKER and DREADNOUGHT. Whether that makes them \"good\" is another\nquestion.\n\nOne that I'm quite sure is \"good\" is Sterling/Gibson's THE DIFFERENCE ENGINE."
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          "text": "On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Craig Brewer <cnbrewer at yahoo.com> wrote:\nAs long as we're all in a non-Wolfe-talking mood, does anyone have any\nrecommendations for GOOD steampunk? I've only read a spattering (Vandermeer,\nMieville, and random others), but I'd be interested to know of things that\npeople enjoy that weren't written just to fit a fad.\n(One note: from my largely inattentive observation: most of the really\ninteresting steampunk stuff happens in sculpture and gadgetry, not writing.\nIs that valid?)\n\n________________________________\nFrom: David Duffy <davidD at qimr.edu.au>\nTo: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>\nSent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 9:26 PM\nSubject: Re: (urth) completed version - Donaldson, Moorcock etc\n\nOn Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Matthew Keeley wrote:"
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          "text": "On the other hand, the Warlord books are great if you're ever in the mood\nfor a steampunk alternate history featuring mecha-Stalin vs. the a-bomb..."
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          "text": "It could be argued that he is partly responsible for the steampunk glut.\n\n_______________________________________________"
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      "message_id": "<CAFjGSafLq3e72KfUQRhXhTJqeKx0Q7w-qTY3Va=yDy4Ro_jbZQ@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Lane Haygood",
        "address": "lhaygood at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2011-08-10T03:31:42+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Steampunk",
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          "text": "I didn't like those.  In theory, I like steampunk, but I am yet to\nfind something that really does well within the genre rather than just\ntry to pander to fans of it.  I know Vandermeer has it in him, so\nmaybe I just need to find more of his stuff.\n\nMoorcock's Oswald Bastable novels are genius, though, but I'm\ngenerally like, \"Oh, another Moorcock novel? Yes, please!\"  But maybe\nthat's because I liked the political subtext and Moorcock's\nsubversiveness more than others.  A \"steampunkish\" (I guess?) novel\nthat I did enjoy was Felix Gilman's \"The Half-Made World,\" though it\nwas more like a weird Western than a steampunk novel.\n\nLH"
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          "text": "On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com> wrote:\nI've really enjoyed Cherie Priest's \"Clockwork Century\" novels,\nBONESHAKER and DREADNOUGHT. Whether that makes them \"good\" is another\nquestion.\n\nOne that I'm quite sure is \"good\" is Sterling/Gibson's THE DIFFERENCE ENGINE.\n\nOn Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Craig Brewer <cnbrewer at yahoo.com> wrote:"
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          "text": "As long as we're all in a non-Wolfe-talking mood, does anyone have any\nrecommendations for GOOD steampunk? I've only read a spattering (Vandermeer,\nMieville, and random others), but I'd be interested to know of things that\npeople enjoy that weren't written just to fit a fad.\n(One note: from my largely inattentive observation: most of the really\ninteresting steampunk stuff happens in sculpture and gadgetry, not writing.\nIs that valid?)\n\n________________________________\nFrom: David Duffy <davidD at qimr.edu.au>\nTo: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>\nSent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 9:26 PM\nSubject: Re: (urth) completed version - Donaldson, Moorcock etc\n\nOn Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Matthew Keeley wrote:"
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          "text": "On the other hand, the Warlord books are great if you're ever in the mood\nfor a steampunk alternate history featuring mecha-Stalin vs. the a-bomb..."
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          "text": "It could be argued that he is partly responsible for the steampunk glut.\n\n_______________________________________________"
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