# Steampunk

*The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 10 Aug 2011*

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### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
*10 Aug 2011, 03:19*

I've really enjoyed Cherie Priest's "Clockwork Century" novels,
BONESHAKER and DREADNOUGHT. Whether that makes them "good" is another
question.

One that I'm quite sure is "good" is Sterling/Gibson's THE DIFFERENCE ENGINE.

> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Craig Brewer <cnbrewer at yahoo.com> wrote:
> As long as we're all in a non-Wolfe-talking mood, does anyone have any
> recommendations for GOOD steampunk? I've only read a spattering (Vandermeer,
> Mieville, and random others), but I'd be interested to know of things that
> people enjoy that weren't written just to fit a fad.
> (One note: from my largely inattentive observation: most of the really
> interesting steampunk stuff happens in sculpture and gadgetry, not writing.
> Is that valid?)
> 
> ________________________________
> From: David Duffy <davidD at qimr.edu.au>
> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: (urth) completed version - Donaldson, Moorcock etc
> 
> On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Matthew Keeley wrote:

>> On the other hand, the Warlord books are great if you're ever in the mood
>> for a steampunk alternate history featuring mecha-Stalin vs. the a-bomb...

> It could be argued that he is partly responsible for the steampunk glut.
> 
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### Lane Haygood
*10 Aug 2011, 03:31 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes*

I didn't like those.  In theory, I like steampunk, but I am yet to
find something that really does well within the genre rather than just
try to pander to fans of it.  I know Vandermeer has it in him, so
maybe I just need to find more of his stuff.

Moorcock's Oswald Bastable novels are genius, though, but I'm
generally like, "Oh, another Moorcock novel? Yes, please!"  But maybe
that's because I liked the political subtext and Moorcock's
subversiveness more than others.  A "steampunkish" (I guess?) novel
that I did enjoy was Felix Gilman's "The Half-Made World," though it
was more like a weird Western than a steampunk novel.

LH

> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've really enjoyed Cherie Priest's "Clockwork Century" novels,
> BONESHAKER and DREADNOUGHT. Whether that makes them "good" is another
> question.
> 
> One that I'm quite sure is "good" is Sterling/Gibson's THE DIFFERENCE ENGINE.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Craig Brewer <cnbrewer at yahoo.com> wrote:

>> As long as we're all in a non-Wolfe-talking mood, does anyone have any
>> recommendations for GOOD steampunk? I've only read a spattering (Vandermeer,
>> Mieville, and random others), but I'd be interested to know of things that
>> people enjoy that weren't written just to fit a fad.
>> (One note: from my largely inattentive observation: most of the really
>> interesting steampunk stuff happens in sculpture and gadgetry, not writing.
>> Is that valid?)
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: David Duffy <davidD at qimr.edu.au>
>> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 9:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: (urth) completed version - Donaldson, Moorcock etc
>> 
>> On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Matthew Keeley wrote:

>>> On the other hand, the Warlord books are great if you're ever in the mood
>>> for a steampunk alternate history featuring mecha-Stalin vs. the a-bomb...

>> It could be argued that he is partly responsible for the steampunk glut.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________

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