S. Delage
The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 12 May 1998
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Dan'l Danehy Oakes12 May 1998, 14:52original
William: the smallpox bit won't wash, not in a quilt from
American Revolution times. While the idea of leprosy coming
through infected items might have occurred to some colonists
(via the Biblical precepts thereon), it's unlikely that
anyone would have tried to pass smallpox on through germ
warfare in those pre-van-Leewenhoek days.
Craig:
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Good points, but how about this well-known quote from Hamlet?
"Neither a borrower nor a lender be"
Umm, no. That was Polonius; the way it's phrased it's clear
that we're talking about something Hamlet himself says.
Actually, Hamlet has a number of quotables. Some of these
will be a bit vague on exact wording, it's been years, but
I'll bet you'll recognize them all.
"The time is out of joint; o cursed spite
that ever I was born to put it right!"
"I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself king
of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams."
"...smile, and smile, and be a villain..."
"Get thee to a nunnery!"
"I am mad only north by northwest; when the wind is [in the
east?] I can tell a hawk from a handsaw."
Need I add that any of these, except possibly the first,
might be brought to bear on S.D. ... ?
Roach
William H. Ansley13 May 1998, 23:28original
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From "Dan'l Danehy Oakes":
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William: the smallpox bit won't wash, not in a quilt from
American Revolution times. While the idea of leprosy coming
through infected items might have occurred to some colonists
(via the Biblical precepts thereon), it's unlikely that
anyone would have tried to pass smallpox on through germ
warfare in those pre-van-Leewenhoek days.
Uh, well, actually it washes quite nicely, thank you very much.
Since Anton van Leeuwenhoek lived from 1632 to 1723, I don't see how his discovery of micro-organisms rules out "germ warfare" being used in "American Revolution times" (remember, in the story this was any time up to
1799) even if we postulate that only a person who knew germs existed could conceive of trying to use bedding from smallpox victims to pass the disease on to others, a postulate I find very doubtful.
But, I was motivated to find where I had read that this had happened and, fortunately, it wasn't hard. It is on p. 251 of Plagues and Peoples [1]:
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The ravages of smallpox among Indians may in fact have been assisted by deliberate efforts at germ warfare. In 1763, for instance, Lord Jeffery Amherst ordered that blankets infected with smallpox be distributed among enemy tribes, and the order was acted on. Whether the result was as expected seems not recorded.
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Now, this is a fairly well-known work and it seems likely to me that Wolfe has read it, since he seems to be a history buff (to put it mildly) and it provides a unusual interpretation of history.
In any case, I stand by my theory. (Although my original post about it was much too long, rambling and maudlin. Sorry. Fatigue affects me that way. I need to observe my bedtime more strictly from now on.)
[1] William H. MacNeill, Plagues and Peoples, 1976, Anchor
Press/Doubleday, Garden City, New York. ISBN: 0-385-11256-4
William Ansley
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