# Inn of Lost Loves

*The Urth list — 9 messages, 6 voices, 22 Sep 2011*

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### Jonathan Post
*22 Sep 2011, 21:10*

When the Inn is first mentioned in Shadow, it speaks of it being a place
that, like many people in Severian's life, is no longer around. I finished
New Sun and did not find anything that explained what happened to the Inn.
What's up?

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### Jonathan Post
*22 Sep 2011, 21:11 · follows Jonathan Post*

In the beginning of the Inn of Lost Loves chapter in Shadow, it mentions
that unlike the other locations in Severian's life, the Inn of Lost Loves is
no longer around. What happened to it?

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### Gwern Branwen
*22 Sep 2011, 21:13 · in reply to Jonathan Post*

> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Jonathan Post <jonfpost at gmail.com> wrote:
> When the Inn is first mentioned in Shadow, it speaks of it being a place
> that, like many people in Severian's life, is no longer around. I finished
> New Sun and did not find anything that explained what happened to the Inn.
> What's up?

Destroyed by the floods brought by the New Sun, I always figured.

```
gwern
http://www.gwern.net
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### Son of Witz
*22 Sep 2011, 21:13 · in reply to Jonathan Post*

well, I think it's a spoiler if you haven't read Urth of the New Sun. Have you?

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On Thursday, September 22, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Jonathan Post wrote:

> In the beginning of the Inn of Lost Loves chapter in Shadow, it mentions that unlike the other locations in Severian's life, the Inn of Lost Loves is no longer around. What happened to it? 
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### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
*22 Sep 2011, 21:23 · in reply to Gwern Branwen*

Ummmm, not so much -- when Severian writes the BotNS, the events of
UotNS haven't happened yet. I suspect that it just went out of
business.

> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Gwern Branwen <gwern0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Jonathan Post <jonfpost at gmail.com> wrote:

>> When the Inn is first mentioned in Shadow, it speaks of it being a place
>> that, like many people in Severian's life, is no longer around. I finished
>> New Sun and did not find anything that explained what happened to the Inn.
>> What's up?

> Destroyed by the floods brought by the New Sun, I always figured.
> 
> --
> gwern
> http://www.gwern.net
> _______________________________________________

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### Son of Witz
*22 Sep 2011, 21:25 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes*

yeah, you're probably right
It probably serves as a simple symbolic device. All the lost loves.

> On Thursday, September 22, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: 
> Ummmm, not so much -- when Severian writes the BotNS, the events of
> UotNS haven't happened yet. I suspect that it just went out of
> business.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Gwern Branwen <gwern0 at gmail.com (mailto:gwern0 at gmail.com)> wrote:

>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Jonathan Post <jonfpost at gmail.com (mailto:jonfpost at gmail.com)> wrote:

>>> When the Inn is first mentioned in Shadow, it speaks of it being a place
>>> that, like many people in Severian's life, is no longer around. I finished
>>> New Sun and did not find anything that explained what happened to the Inn.
>>> What's up?

>> Destroyed by the floods brought by the New Sun, I always figured.
>> 
>> --
>> gwern
>> http://www.gwern.net
>> _______________________________________________

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### Gerry Quinn
*22 Sep 2011, 21:29 · in reply to Son of Witz*

From: Son of Witz 

> yeah, you're probably right
> It probably serves as a simple symbolic device. All the lost loves.

Any relation to the Room of Lost Loves belonging to the giant wizard in _Wizard Knight_, I wonder?

- Gerry Quinn

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### Gerry Quinn
*22 Sep 2011, 21:29 · in reply to Son of Witz*

From: Son of Witz 

> yeah, you're probably right
> It probably serves as a simple symbolic device. All the lost loves.

Any relation to the Room of Lost Loves belonging to the giant wizard in _Wizard Knight_, I wonder?

- Gerry Quinn

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### Jeff Wilson
*23 Sep 2011, 03:42 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes*

> On 9/22/2011 4:23 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
> Ummmm, not so much -- when Severian writes the BotNS, the events of
> UotNS haven't happened yet. I suspect that it just went out of
> business.

If it did, it may be due to business falling off after Sev outlaws dueling.

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Computational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana
< http://www.tamut.edu/CIL >
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