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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 6070, "subject": "the long and short of it", "messages": 3, "voices": 2, "first": "2011-10-15T12:46:58+00:00", "last": "2011-10-15T18:13:06+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "larry miller", "address": "biglar1984 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2011-10-15T12:46:58+00:00", "subject": "(urth) the long and short of it", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "can anyone tell me what Borskis argument for BotSS in the long and\nshort of it is? I have been unable to get my hands on a copy and\nsince finishing my reread Im desperate to hear as much analysis on the\nbook as possible." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Lee Berman", "address": "severiansola at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2011-10-15T15:54:54+00:00", "subject": "(urth) the long and short of it", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "larry miller: can anyone tell me what Borskis argument for BotSS in the long and\nshort of it is? I have been unable to get my hands on a copy and\nsince finishing my reread Im desperate to hear as much analysis on the\nbook as possible." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": " \n\nWell, I can tell you that the title of that \"book\" (really a collection of essays)\n\nis misleading. The vast majority of it is about other WOlfe works. It is pretty \n\nshort. Shorter than Solar Labyrinth though, imho, it is far more concise and provides\n\nless fantastic speculation and poorly thought out conclusions.\n\n \n\nI think in Long and Short Of It, Borski provides the best analysis and most interesting\n\nconclusions for Fifth Head of Cerberus, Peace and the Latro/Soldier series.\n\n \n\nHe barely mentions Long Sun and he is pretty pedestrian regarding Short Sun. I think you\n\ncan find better discussion and analysis here. He connects Babby and Pig. And pointlessly\n\ndecides that Seawrack's real name comes from some Irish seaweed or something. He \n\ndiscusses the mystery of how Inhumi accomplish interplanetary travel. He argues that Pas \n\nis a Neighbor.\n\n \n\nI think he is not as good at tying things all together as the combined efforts of the people \n\ncontributing to this list. But, for the 5HoC and other stuff, I'd say the book is worth \n\nreading. I think I got my copy from AbeBooks online. They seem to have a number of copies \n\nstill available, some of which can be had for under $20 US.\n\n \n\nhttp://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=borski&sts=t&tn=long+and+short&x=0&y=0 \t\t \t \t\t " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "larry miller", "address": "biglar1984 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2011-10-15T18:13:06+00:00", "subject": "(urth) the long and short of it", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Yeah one of the reasons that Ive been reluctant to buy it before now\nis that it devotes most of its pages to other Wolfe works and I dont\nwant anything spoiled (I have never read the soldier series or Peace-\nYeah I know shame on me). Most of the stuff on 5HoC I have read on\nhis Cave Canem website. I just wanted to know Borskis theory on how\nthe New Sun books and Short Sun books connect. Does he not mention\nanything about Horn/Malrubius ghost? Horn being an Inhumi? etc. Does\nanyone on here have thoughts on these things?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 10/15/11, Lee Berman wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "larry miller: can anyone tell me what Borskis argument for BotSS in the\nlong and\nshort of it is? I have been unable to get my hands on a copy and\nsince finishing my reread Im desperate to hear as much analysis on the\nbook as possible." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Well, I can tell you that the title of that \"book\" (really a collection of\nessays)\n\nis misleading. The vast majority of it is about other WOlfe works. It is\npretty\n\nshort. Shorter than Solar Labyrinth though, imho, it is far more concise and\nprovides\n\nless fantastic speculation and poorly thought out conclusions.\n\n\n\nI think in Long and Short Of It, Borski provides the best analysis and most\ninteresting\n\nconclusions for Fifth Head of Cerberus, Peace and the Latro/Soldier series.\n\n\n\nHe barely mentions Long Sun and he is pretty pedestrian regarding Short Sun.\nI think you\n\ncan find better discussion and analysis here. He connects Babby and Pig. And\npointlessly\n\ndecides that Seawrack's real name comes from some Irish seaweed or\nsomething. He\n\ndiscusses the mystery of how Inhumi accomplish interplanetary travel. He\nargues that Pas\n\nis a Neighbor.\n\n\n\nI think he is not as good at tying things all together as the combined\nefforts of the people\n\ncontributing to this list. But, for the 5HoC and other stuff, I'd say the\nbook is worth\n\nreading. I think I got my copy from AbeBooks online. They seem to have a\nnumber of copies\n\nstill available, some of which can be had for under $20 US.\n\n\n\nhttp://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=borski&sts=t&tn=long+and+short&x=0&y=0\n\t\t \t \t\t\n_______________________________________________" } ] } ] }