# Lack of Peers?? and social problems associated with
	intelligence

*The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 20 Oct 2011*

<https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/6075>

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### Gwern Branwen
*20 Oct 2011, 01:31*

> From the dual n-back mailing list:

> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Dennis Peterson
> <dennisbpeterson at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I recently saw Gene Wolfe speak at a conference. Aside from being a great
> writer and an engineer, he's a Korean War veteran. He said he once asked a
> bunch of college students what a friend is, and they all said "Someone who
> shares your interests, who you can talk to about interesting things, etc."
> He was somewhat appalled. He said "No. A friend is someone who will give you
> a drink out of his canteen."
> He went on to talk about some of the great friends he had during the
> war...guys who had nothing in common with him, but they liked each other
> anyway and looked out for each other.

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### Marc Aramini
*20 Oct 2011, 19:01 · in reply to Gwern Branwen*

Well, sometimes the more people ostensibly have in common with you, the more you argue with them (wolfe mailing list, anyone?).  I like Wolfe's definition there.

> --- On Wed, 10/19/11, Gwern Branwen <gwern0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Gwern Branwen <gwern0 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: (urth) Lack of Peers? and social problems associated with intelligence
> To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
> Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 6:31 PM
> From the dual n-back mailing list:
> 
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Dennis Peterson
> <dennisbpeterson at gmail.com>
> wrote:

>> I recently saw Gene Wolfe speak at a conference. Aside
>> from being a great
>> writer and an engineer, he's a Korean War veteran. He
>> said he once asked a
>> bunch of college students what a friend is, and they
>> all said "Someone who
>> shares your interests, who you can talk to about
>> interesting things, etc."
>> He was somewhat appalled. He said "No. A friend is
>> someone who will give you
>> a drink out of his canteen."
>> He went on to talk about some of the great friends he
>> had during the
>> war...guys who had nothing in common with him, but
>> they liked each other
>> anyway and looked out for each other.

> -- 
> gwern
> http://www.gwern.net
> _______________________________________________

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