# Sard *The Urth list — 4 messages, 2 voices, 05 Nov 2011* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Andrew Mason *05 Nov 2011, 22:45* A while ago I raised the question whether Sard, the pawnbroker in _Long Sun_, was a chem. I've found positive evidence that he is; at the beginning of _Calde_, 'Sard' is given as an example of a chem name. So it seems chems can have their own businesses, though it's unusual. --- ### David Stockhoff *06 Nov 2011, 13:38 · in reply to Andrew Mason* > On 11/5/2011 6:45 PM, Andrew Mason wrote: > A while ago I raised the question whether Sard, the pawnbroker in > _Long Sun_, was a chem. I've found positive evidence that he is; at > the beginning of _Calde_, 'Sard' is given as an example of a chem > name. So it seems chems can have their own businesses, though it's > unusual. Sard: "A clear or translucent, deep orange-red to brownish-red variety of chalcedony. Also called sardius. [Middle English sarde, from Old French, from Latin sarda...." Also apparently another name for carnelian. --- ### Andrew Mason *06 Nov 2011, 21:06 · follows David Stockhoff* > David Stockhoff wrote: > Sard: "A clear or translucent, deep orange-red to brownish-red variety > of chalcedony. Also called sardius. [Middle English sarde, from Old > French, from Latin sarda...." > > Also apparently another name for carnelian. That is indeed the principal meaning of 'sard'; but I think people before now, wanting the pawnbroker Sard to be human, have interpreted it as a fish. --- ### David Stockhoff *06 Nov 2011, 22:18 · in reply to Andrew Mason* > On 11/6/2011 4:06 PM, Andrew Mason wrote: > David Stockhoff wrote: >> Sard: "A clear or translucent, deep orange-red to brownish-red variety >> of chalcedony. Also called sardius. [Middle English sarde, from Old >> French, from Latin sarda...." >> >> Also apparently another name for carnelian. > That is indeed the principal meaning of 'sard'; but I think people > before now, wanting the pawnbroker Sard to be human, have interpreted > it as a fish. But that's Latin or Greek. Not allowed. ---