{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/6103", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 6103, "subject": "chenille", "messages": 7, "voices": 4, "first": "2011-11-08T02:31:39+00:00", "last": "2011-11-08T13:25:51+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "larry miller", "address": "biglar1984 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2011-11-08T02:31:39+00:00", "subject": "(urth) chenille", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Whats the deal with Chenille in Lake ch. 3/4? Is she possessed by\nKypris during some of these scenes?" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4EB896A5.7030104@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "António Pedro Marques", "address": "entonio at gmail.com" }, "date": "2011-11-08T02:40:37+00:00", "subject": "(urth) chenille", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "larry miller wrote (08-11-2011 02:31):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Whats the deal with Chenille in Lake ch. 3/4? Is she possessed by\nKypris during some of these scenes?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It'll be more fun for you if you work it out by yourself." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "larry miller", "address": "biglar1984 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2011-11-08T11:50:59+00:00", "subject": "(urth) chenille", "in_reply_to": "<4EB896A5.7030104@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Maybe I should have read the next chapter before I posted huh?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 11/7/11, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:\nlarry miller wrote (08-11-2011 02:31):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Whats the deal with Chenille in Lake ch. 3/4? Is she possessed by\nKypris during some of these scenes?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "It'll be more fun for you if you work it out by yourself.\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4EB91B6D.2060306@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "António Pedro Marques", "address": "entonio at gmail.com" }, "date": "2011-11-08T12:07:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) chenille", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I didn't mean to sound cross; just that there are things are best left to \none's own reasoning once more data is available. In Wolfe's case, expecting \nthe unexpected is probably the best way to go on about reading him.\n\nlarry miller wrote (08-11-2011 11:50):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Maybe I should have read the next chapter before I posted huh?\n\nOn 11/7/11, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "larry miller wrote (08-11-2011 02:31):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Whats the deal with Chenille in Lake ch. 3/4? Is she possessed by\nKypris during some of these scenes?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "It'll be more fun for you if you work it out by yourself." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Gerry Quinn", "address": "gerry at bindweed.com" }, "date": "2011-11-08T12:55:40+00:00", "subject": "(urth) chenille", "in_reply_to": "<4EB91B6D.2060306@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "From: Ant?nio Pedro Marques " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I didn't mean to sound cross; just that there are things are best left to \none's own reasoning once more data is available. In Wolfe's case, expecting \nthe unexpected is probably the best way to go on about reading him." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It’s probably best for one’s own enjoyment to avoid reading too much about a book before one’s own first read. Although it depends, perhaps, on whether one intends to read it more than once. Arguably, the second read of Wolfe is better than the first, so a reader who will only read once might be better off spoiled!\n- Gerry Quinn" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "larry miller", "address": "biglar1984 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2011-11-08T12:59:20+00:00", "subject": "(urth) chenille", "in_reply_to": "<4EB91B6D.2060306@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I didnt take it that way at all. I just assumed you didnt want to\nspoil anything for me. That she was my first thought that she was\npossessed by Kypris but couldnt remember if it was ever elaborated on\n(this is the first time Ive read it in a decade) and wanted some\nverification. Got to admit though Im still confused as to when\nChenille is herself and when she is Kypris." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 11/8/11, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:\nI didn't mean to sound cross; just that there are things are best left to\none's own reasoning once more data is available. In Wolfe's case, expecting\nthe unexpected is probably the best way to go on about reading him.\n\nlarry miller wrote (08-11-2011 11:50):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Maybe I should have read the next chapter before I posted huh?\n\nOn 11/7/11, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "larry miller wrote (08-11-2011 02:31):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Whats the deal with Chenille in Lake ch. 3/4? Is she possessed by\nKypris during some of these scenes?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "It'll be more fun for you if you work it out by yourself." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Lee Berman", "address": "severiansola at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2011-11-08T13:25:51+00:00", "subject": "(urth) chenille", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "larry miller: Got to admit though Im still confused as to when\nChenille is herself and when she is Kypris." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Iirc, there is also another Chenille possession to consider. But\nin regard to Kypris, the identity confusion is surely intentional.\nChenille is a prostitute and in one interview, Wolfe makes a very stern\nadmonition to those who think Kypris/Aphrodtite/Venus was a love goddess. \nHe states: \"She was a sex goddess\". \t\t \t \t\t " } ] } ] }