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    "id": 6111,
    "subject": "Charles de Lint",
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    "first": "2011-11-15T16:29:46+00:00",
    "last": "2011-11-16T13:50:34+00:00"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Antonin Scriabin",
        "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2011-11-15T16:29:46+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Charles de Lint",
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          "text": "I really enjoyed the two novels I have read by Gene Wolfe that take place\nin \"our\" world, where magical elements may or may not be bleeding in (Peace\nand The Sorcerer's House).  I am going to get to his others soon, like\nCastleview and Pandora by Holly Hollander.  I was wondering if anyone had\nread Charles de Lint, and if they would recommend his books.  Are they\nalong the same lines as the two Wolfe books I mentioned, as to the \"type\"\nof story?  Is he a good writer, or not worth the time?  I was intrigued by\nseveral of his books on a recent bookstore outing, and might pick them up\nif he is worth it.  Thanks!"
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        "name": "David Duffy",
        "address": "david.duffy at qimr.edu.au"
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      "date": "2011-11-16T01:23:04+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Charles de Lint",
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          "text": "On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Antonin Scriabin wrote:\nI really enjoyed the two novels I have read by Gene Wolfe that take place\nin \"our\" world, where magical elements may or may not be bleeding in (Peace\nand The Sorcerer's House).  I am going to get to his others soon, like\nCastleview and Pandora by Holly Hollander.  I was wondering if anyone had\nread Charles de Lint, and if they would recommend his books.  Are they\nalong the same lines as the two Wolfe books I mentioned, as to the \"type\"\nof story?  Is he a good writer, or not worth the time?  I was intrigued by\nseveral of his books on a recent bookstore outing, and might pick them up\nif he is worth it.  Thanks!"
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          "text": "He is not bad.  I have read several of his books from our library and \nenjoyed them, but I don't own any of his books (cf Wolfe where I own a few \n;)), and I'm afraid I don't recall any particular favourites.  If you have \nread Emma Bull's _The War of the Oaks_ you will see the model for most of \nde Lint's books - less slippery than Wolfe when he has used the same \nideas eg Faerie in America, war in Faerie.\n\nJust 2c, David Duffy."
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      "from": {
        "name": "Jerry Friedman",
        "address": "jerry_friedman at yahoo.com"
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      "date": "2011-11-16T06:02:34+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Charles de Lint",
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          "text": "From: Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>\nI really enjoyed the two novels I have read by Gene Wolfe that take place in \"our\" world, where magical elements may > or may not be bleeding in (Peace and The Sorcerer's House). I am going to get to his others soon, like Castleview and > Pandora by Holly Hollander. I was wondering if anyone had read Charles de Lint, and if they would recommend his\nbooks. Are they along the same lines as the two Wolfe books I mentioned, as to the \"type\" of story? Is he a good\nwriter, or not worth the time? I was intrigued by several of his books on a recent bookstore outing, and might pick\nthem up if he is worth it. Thanks! "
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          "text": "Just to make sure, have you read John Crowley? He's probably the most popular sf writer (after Wolfe) \namong current and former contributors to this list, including me. If \nyou haven't read him, you might want to start with /Little, Big/, which takes place in \"our\" world, as you put it.\n\n\nI haven't read de Lint. Like David Duffy, I liked /The War for the Oaks/, though it's not exactly deep. I also liked Pamela Dean's /Tam Lin/. On a much darker and half-parodic note, I just finished China Mieville's /Kraken/, set in contemporary-ish London, which I enjoyed. The main resemblances to Wolfe are that stuff keeps happening and that one can learn some new words. Well, and the torture.\n\nThere's always Nabokov.\n\n\nJerry Friedman"
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        "name": "Antonin Scriabin",
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      "date": "2011-11-16T13:50:34+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Charles de Lint",
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          "text": "I have never read any John Crowley, but I will definitely keep an eye out\nfor his books.  I am on Lafferty stint right now, reading whatever I can\nfind.  Thanks for the input!"
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          "text": "On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman at yahoo.com>wrote:\nFrom: Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>\n >I really enjoyed the two novels I have read by Gene Wolfe that take\nplace in \"our\" world, where magical elements may > or may not be bleeding\nin (Peace and The Sorcerer's House).  I am going to get to his others soon,\nlike Castleview and > Pandora by Holly Hollander.  I was wondering if\nanyone had read Charles de Lint, and if they would recommend his\nbooks.  Are they along the same lines as the two Wolfe books I\nmentioned, as to the \"type\" of story?  Is he a good\nwriter, or not worth the time?  I was intrigued by several of his books\non a recent bookstore outing, and might pick\nthem up if he is worth it.  Thanks!\n\n\nJust to make sure, have you read John Crowley?  He's probably the most\npopular sf writer (after Wolfe)\namong current and former contributors to this list, including me.  If\nyou haven't read him, you might want to start with /Little, Big/, which\ntakes place in \"our\" world, as you put it.\n\n\nI haven't read de Lint.  Like David Duffy, I liked /The War for the Oaks/,\nthough it's not exactly deep.  I also liked Pamela Dean's /Tam Lin/.  On a\nmuch darker and half-parodic note, I just finished China Mieville's\n/Kraken/, set in contemporary-ish London, which I enjoyed.  The main\nresemblances to Wolfe are that stuff keeps happening and that one can learn\nsome new words.  Well, and the torture.\n\nThere's always Nabokov.\n\n\nJerry Friedman\n\n_______________________________________________"
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