# Hierax is dead *The Urth list — 4 messages, 4 voices, 23 Nov 2011* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Lee Berman *23 Nov 2011, 18:20* > Pig said, "Hierax is dead." I find it interesting that Hierax is dead, but I find it more interesting to wonder how Pig knows this. > James Wynn: we'd really have to know what the purpose in sending Seawrack > was in the first place. Was her purpose solely for Horn? Did Mother decide > Horn was a "worshipper" because he killed that pirate woman and caused her > to be dumped in the water? Wow. My interpretation is so different. I think perhaps the "pirate ship" was like the naviscaput in the off-world legend in UotNS. An above-water extrusion of The Mother. I think Horn's shot is what knocked off Seawrack's arm, she also being an extrusion of The Mother. (James do you have a different explanation for Seawrack's arm?). Seawrack's arm seems freshly lost but carefully dressed and healed. I think that occurred via The Mother when she dropped back into the sea. Despite the arm loss she can still swim pretty fast. As for the purpose in sending Seawrack, I think it is similar to the sending of undines to Severian. There are powers in the sea who have a presentiment of Horn's future and want to be a part of it and/or influence on it. > I think it is significant that the Narrator does not reconnect with > Seawrack in his non-Horn body until the end when the Rajan returns to > the Whorl with Marble, Nettle, and Seawrack. (and Oreb, of course). Of > course, I'm not sure what the reconnection means any more than I know > what the separation means. There is such a personal, wistful note to the description of these characters. I think there is some reflection of the author's personal life which may not directly tie to the story. --- ### Gerry Quinn *23 Nov 2011, 18:42 · in reply to Lee Berman* From: Lee Berman >> Pig said, "Hierax is dead." > I find it interesting that Hierax is dead, but I find it more interesting > to wonder how Pig knows this. He’s a godling, and presumably was constructed at/by Mainframe. I guess he knew from birth. - Gerry Quinn --- ### Pedro Pereira *23 Nov 2011, 18:50 · in reply to Gerry Quinn* Sorry to hijack this post, but could the person responsible unsubscribe me from the Urth list? Thank you,Pedro From: gerry at bindweed.com To: urth at lists.urth.net Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:42:22 +0000 Subject: Re: (urth) Hierax is dead From: Lee Berman Pig said, "Hierax is dead." I find it interesting that Hierax is dead, but I find it more interesting to wonder how Pig knows this. He’s a godling, and presumably was constructed at/by Mainframe. I guess he knew from birth. - Gerry Quinn --- ### James Wynn *23 Nov 2011, 19:09 · in reply to Pedro Pereira* See the bottom of this page Pedro. http://lists.urth.net/listinfo.cgi/urth-urth.net You subscribed yourself. You must unsubscribe yourself. Good luck to you. > On 11/23/2011 12:50 PM, Pedro Pereira wrote: > Sorry to hijack this post, but could the person > responsible unsubscribe me from the Urth list? > > Thank you, > Pedro ---