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  "thread": {
    "id": 6124,
    "subject": "Urth Digest, Vol 87, Issue 179",
    "messages": 3,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "2011-11-23T22:47:45+00:00",
    "last": "2011-11-23T23:23:24+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<CAM3O41+LTdnXr3ps15HE9dK_yfxKvvknt87AQ+Ubh+yGveswcA@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Andrew Mason",
        "address": "andrew.mason53 at googlemail.com"
      },
      "date": "2011-11-23T22:47:45+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Urth Digest, Vol 87, Issue 179",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "James Wynn wrote:\nAndrew, I don't know if you saw my response to you on 11/9...\nhttp://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/2011-November/024264.html\n... but at that point I posed that the Mucor traveling with \"Pike's\nghost\" is Mucor from Blue on her mission to locate Silk for Horn."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Yes, I saw this - I'm not doubting that there is a way to explain it\nwithin the time-travel theory. I just wanted to see if a simpler\nexplanation could be given."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "** If it seems that Wolfe did not provide enough clues for this,\nremember that this is the same thing as Auk kidnapping Hy for sacrifice\nand then realizing that \"she was not the woman he was supposed to\nbring.\" There was no explanation of _that_internal struggle either."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Why do you say he kidnapped her for sacrifice? It seems to me -\nadmittedly with the benefit of hindsight - that what happened is\nreasonably clear. Tartaros said  'Go to the woman...A woman is vital'.\nAuk looked around for Chenille (whom Tartaros certainly meant; he had\ntold Auk to comfort her a page earlier), but she had disappeared. So\nhe ran out and grabbed Hyacinth. Later, Tartaros told him to let her\ngo, when the balance of his mind had been restored. There's no\nexplicit 'Ah, now I realise...', but presumably he did, as he let\nHyacinth go without arguing."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<4ECD7DED.6050604@gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "James Wynn",
        "address": "crushtv at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2011-11-23T23:12:45+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Urth Digest, Vol 87, Issue 179",
      "in_reply_to": "<CAM3O41+LTdnXr3ps15HE9dK_yfxKvvknt87AQ+Ubh+yGveswcA@mail.gmail.com>",
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          "text": "On 11/23/2011 4:47 PM, Andrew Mason wrote:\nJames Wynn wrote:\n\nYes, I saw this - I'm not doubting that there is a way to explain it\nwithin the time-travel theory. I just wanted to see if a simpler\nexplanation could be given."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Maybe Roy will chime in on this."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "** If it seems that Wolfe did not provide enough clues for this,\nremember that this is the same thing as Auk kidnapping Hy for sacrifice\nand then realizing that \"she was not the woman he was supposed to\nbring.\" There was no explanation of _that_internal struggle either."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Why do you say he kidnapped her for sacrifice?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Well, he *did* kidnap her. The very requirement to kidnap someone \nassumes that no one could be procured to go willingly."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "It seems to me -\nadmittedly with the benefit of hindsight - that what happened is\nreasonably clear. Tartaros said  'Go to the woman...A woman is vital'.\nAuk looked around for Chenille (whom Tartaros certainly meant; he had\ntold Auk to comfort her a page earlier), but she had disappeared."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I'm not sure it is obvious. I don't think he ultimately presents \nChenille. So, if she was vital...\nIf Tartaros needed any woman (as his statement implied) why not Hy?"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<4ECD806C.1030003@gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "António Pedro Marques",
        "address": "entonio at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2011-11-23T23:23:24+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Urth Digest, Vol 87, Issue 179",
      "in_reply_to": "<4ECD7DED.6050604@gmail.com>",
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          "text": "James Wynn wrote (23-11-2011 23:12):"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
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          "text": "If Tartaros needed any woman (as his statement implied) why not Hy?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Ha!"
        }
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    }
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