# Auk/Hyacinth/Chenille/Tartaros *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 24 Nov 2011* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Andrew Mason *24 Nov 2011, 14:16* >> James Wynn wrote: >> Why do you say he kidnapped her for sacrifice? > Well, he *did* kidnap her. The very requirement to kidnap someone > assumes that no one could be procured to go willingly. Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. Of course he kidnapped her. The question is why think it was _for sacrifice_ that he did so. I don't think Tartaros wanted him to kidnap anyone; the woman he had in mind, Chenille, was there willingly. But Auk, who is in a confused state, hearing 'A woman is vital,' and finding that Chenille has gone, grabs the only woman to hand, Hyacinth, who, unsurprisingly, is unwilling. As to the real reason - I think Tartaros, who is going to send Auk to start a new colony, wants him to bring a potential partner with whom he can have children. Later, when recruiting people for the expedition, Auk says every man must bring a woman and every woman a man. . So, if she was vital... > If Tartaros needed any woman (as his statement implied) why not Hy? He says 'Go to the woman.. A woman is vital.' So, he has a particular woman in mind, but she matters because she is a a woman (not because she is a prostitute, or Silk's sister, or....) My explanation makes sense of this, I think. ---