Short Story 3 title correction: The Grave Secret The Urth list — 10 messages, 6 voices, 25 Mar 2012 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/6201 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Marc Aramini — 25 Mar 2012, 05:03 My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret" Story #4 is "The Dead Man" Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel Petersen — 25 Mar 2012, 13:47 in reply to Marc Aramini These are really enjoyable so far, Marc. Thanks. (Is it too late to get in on receiving these early stories you're referencing?) -DOJP > On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote: > My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret" > > Story #4 is "The Dead Man" > > Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know. > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fred Kiesche — 25 Mar 2012, 19:59 in reply to Marc Aramini I would like the list, please. On Mar 25, 2012 1:03 AM, "Marc Aramini" wrote: My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret" Story #4 is "The Dead Man" Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David Stockhoff — 04 Apr 2012, 17:38 in reply to Marc Aramini The Grave Secret is not a serious story, and yet is not so bad in some ways. Detailed, but clumsy. I'd be proud of it if it were mine, but I'd clean it up first. And it could be funnier; it gestures toward humor but does not achieve it. And silly too. How did the ghost perform the necessary magic? Best not to think about it. > On 3/25/2012 1:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote: > My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret" > > Story #4 is "The Dead Man" > > Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know. > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan'l Danehy-Oakes — 04 Apr 2012, 17:43 in reply to David Stockhoff "The Grave Secret" is basically a good _Weird Tales_ entry for the classic 30s/40s incarnation of that magazine. > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM, David Stockhoff wrote: > The Grave Secret is not a serious story, and yet is not so bad in some ways. > Detailed, but clumsy. I'd be proud of it if it were mine, but I'd clean it > up first. And it could be funnier; it gestures toward humor but does not > achieve it. > > And silly too. How did the ghost perform the necessary magic? Best not to > think about it. > > > On 3/25/2012 1:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote: > > My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret" > > > > Story #4 is "The Dead Man" > > > > Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know. > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David Stockhoff — 04 Apr 2012, 18:03 in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes That must have been before science fiction was able to afford editors. ;) > On 4/4/2012 1:43 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > "The Grave Secret" is basically a good _Weird Tales_ entry for the > classic 30s/40s incarnation of that magazine. > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM, David Stockhoff wrote: > > The Grave Secret is not a serious story, and yet is not so bad in some ways. > > Detailed, but clumsy. I'd be proud of it if it were mine, but I'd clean it > > up first. And it could be funnier; it gestures toward humor but does not > > achieve it. > > > > And silly too. How did the ghost perform the necessary magic? Best not to > > think about it. > > > > > > On 3/25/2012 1:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote: > > > My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret" > > > > > > Story #4 is "The Dead Man" > > > > > > Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know. > > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David Stockhoff — 01 May 2012, 22:14 in reply to David Stockhoff A Cthulhu Mythos story by Clark Ashton Smith, THE RETURN OF THE SORCERER, may have been the origin of this one. Working as a translator for a John Carnby, the narrator reads from the original Arabic Necronomicon: 'It is verily known by few, but is nevertheless no attestable fact, that the will of a dead sorcerer hath power upon his own body and can raise it up from the tomb and perform therewith whatever action was unfulfilled in life. And such resurrections are invariably for the doing of malevolent deeds and for the detriment of other's. Most readily can the corpse be animated if all its members have remained intact; and yet there are cases in which the excelling will of the wizard hath reared up from death the sundered pieces of a body hewn in many fragments, and hath caused them to serve his end, either separately or in a temporary reunion. But in every instance, after the action hath been completed, the body lapseth into its former state.' This is of course exactly what happens to the protagonist of The Grave Secret. > On 4/4/2012 2:03 PM, David Stockhoff wrote: > That must have been before science fiction was able to afford editors. ;) > > On 4/4/2012 1:43 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > > "The Grave Secret" is basically a good _Weird Tales_ entry for the > > classic 30s/40s incarnation of that magazine. > > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM, David > > Stockhoff wrote: > > > The Grave Secret is not a serious story, and yet is not so bad in > > > some ways. > > > Detailed, but clumsy. I'd be proud of it if it were mine, but I'd > > > clean it > > > up first. And it could be funnier; it gestures toward humor but does > > > not > > > achieve it. > > > > > > And silly too. How did the ghost perform the necessary magic? Best > > > not to > > > think about it. > > > > > > > > > On 3/25/2012 1:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote: > > > > My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret" > > > > > > > > Story #4 is "The Dead Man" > > > > > > > > Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me > > > > know. > > > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marc Aramini — 01 May 2012, 23:17 in reply to David Stockhoff I agree completely. my allusion section read: ALLUSIONS: Clark Ashton Smith in such necromantic works as The Return of the Sorcerer and HP Lovecraft are channeled directly here oh yeah. [Hi C man busts through wall] > --- On Tue, 5/1/12, David Stockhoff wrote: > From: David Stockhoff > Subject: Re: (urth) Short Story 3 title correction: The Grave Secret > To: "The Urth Mailing List" > Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 3:14 PM > A Cthulhu Mythos story by Clark > Ashton Smith, THE RETURN OF THE SORCERER, may have been the > origin of this one. Working as a translator for a John > Carnby, the narrator reads from the original Arabic > Necronomicon: > > 'It is verily known by few, but is nevertheless no > attestable fact, that the will of a dead sorcerer hath power > upon his own body and can raise it up from the tomb and > perform therewith whatever action was unfulfilled in life. > And such resurrections are invariably for the doing of > malevolent deeds and for the detriment of other's. Most > readily can the corpse be animated if all its members have > remained intact; and yet there are cases in which the > excelling will of the wizard hath reared up from death the > sundered pieces of a body hewn in many fragments, and hath > caused them to serve his end, either separately or in a > temporary reunion. But in every instance, after the action > hath been completed, the body lapseth into its former > state.' > > This is of course exactly what happens to the protagonist of > The Grave Secret. > > On 4/4/2012 2:03 PM, David Stockhoff wrote: > > That must have been before science fiction was able to > > afford editors. ;) > > > > On 4/4/2012 1:43 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > > > "The Grave Secret" is basically a good _Weird > > > Tales_ entry for the > > > classic 30s/40s incarnation of that magazine. > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM, David > > > Stockhoff? > wrote: > > > > The Grave Secret is not a serious story, and > > > > yet is not so bad in some ways. > > > > Detailed, but clumsy. I'd be proud of it if it > > > > were mine, but I'd clean it > > > > up first. And it could be funnier; it gestures > > > > toward humor but does not > > > > achieve it. > > > > > > > > And silly too. How did the ghost perform the > > > > necessary magic? Best not to > > > > think about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/25/2012 1:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote: > > > > > My apologies, the third story is "the Grave > > > > > Secret" > > > > > > > > > > Story #4 is "The Dead Man" > > > > > > > > > > Anyone who asked to receive the stories but > > > > > did not please let me know. > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David Stockhoff — 01 May 2012, 23:33 in reply to Marc Aramini ;) I suppose everybody already knows about the debt to Lovecraft's Innsmouth story owed by An Evil Guest and A Tree Is My Hat? > On 5/1/2012 7:17 PM, Marc Aramini wrote: > I agree completely. my allusion section read: > > ALLUSIONS: Clark Ashton Smith in such necromantic works as The Return of the Sorcerer and HP Lovecraft are channeled directly here > > oh yeah. [Hi C man busts through wall] > > --- On Tue, 5/1/12, David Stockhoff wrote: > > From: David Stockhoff > > Subject: Re: (urth) Short Story 3 title correction: The Grave Secret > > To: "The Urth Mailing List" > > Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 3:14 PM > > A Cthulhu Mythos story by Clark > > Ashton Smith, THE RETURN OF THE SORCERER, may have been the > > origin of this one. Working as a translator for a John > > Carnby, the narrator reads from the original Arabic > > Necronomicon: > > > > 'It is verily known by few, but is nevertheless no > > attestable fact, that the will of a dead sorcerer hath power > > upon his own body and can raise it up from the tomb and > > perform therewith whatever action was unfulfilled in life. > > And such resurrections are invariably for the doing of > > malevolent deeds and for the detriment of other's. Most > > readily can the corpse be animated if all its members have > > remained intact; and yet there are cases in which the > > excelling will of the wizard hath reared up from death the > > sundered pieces of a body hewn in many fragments, and hath > > caused them to serve his end, either separately or in a > > temporary reunion. But in every instance, after the action > > hath been completed, the body lapseth into its former > > state.' > > > > This is of course exactly what happens to the protagonist of > > The Grave Secret. > > > > On 4/4/2012 2:03 PM, David Stockhoff wrote: > > > That must have been before science fiction was able to > > > afford editors. ;) > > > On 4/4/2012 1:43 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > > > > "The Grave Secret" is basically a good _Weird > > > > Tales_ entry for the > > > > classic 30s/40s incarnation of that magazine. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM, David > > > > Stockhoff > > > > wrote: > > > > > The Grave Secret is not a serious story, and > > > > > yet is not so bad in some ways. > > > > > Detailed, but clumsy. I'd be proud of it if it > > > > > were mine, but I'd clean it > > > > > up first. And it could be funnier; it gestures > > > > > toward humor but does not > > > > > achieve it. > > > > > > > > > > And silly too. How did the ghost perform the > > > > > necessary magic? Best not to > > > > > think about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/25/2012 1:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote: > > > > > > My apologies, the third story is "the Grave > > > > > > Secret" > > > > > > Story #4 is "The Dead Man" > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone who asked to receive the stories but > > > > > > did not please let me know. > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jeff Wilson — 02 May 2012, 05:14 in reply to Marc Aramini > On 5/1/2012 6:17 PM, Marc Aramini wrote: > I agree completely. my allusion section read: > > ALLUSIONS: Clark Ashton Smith in such necromantic works as The Return of the Sorcerer and HP Lovecraft are channeled directly here > > oh yeah. 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