Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week

The Urth list — 9 messages, 6 voices, 02 May 2012
https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/6244

Daniel Petersen02 May 2012, 12:13
http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment Folks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have any way of seeing this. Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account of how Wolfe's *Litany of the Long Sun *was mentioned on this episode, in what context, for what reason, etc. Cheers! DOJP
Fred Kiesche02 May 2012, 13:34

↳ in reply to Daniel Petersen

I have the first season on DVD, haven't gotten that far...but I've sent out a query to several frends who do watch it. Alas, they mostly do not read Gene Wolfe so the reference may have gone right by!
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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Daniel Petersen < danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment Folks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have any way of seeing this. Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account of how Wolfe's *Litany of the Long Sun *was mentioned on this episode, in what context, for what reason, etc. Cheers! DOJP _______________________________________________
Matthew Keeley02 May 2012, 13:57

↳ in reply to Fred Kiesche

There was a brief discussion of Wolfe and Fringe last month; I managed to find a link at the Huffington Post that shows the Long Sun scene. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/fringe -nothing-as-it-seems-exclusive_n_1390113.html -Matt
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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Fred Kiesche <godelescherbach at gmail.com>wrote: I have the first season on DVD, haven't gotten that far...but I've sent out a query to several frends who do watch it. Alas, they mostly do not read Gene Wolfe so the reference may have gone right by! On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Daniel Petersen < danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment Folks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have any way of seeing this. Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account of how Wolfe's *Litany of the Long Sun *was mentioned on this episode, in what context, for what reason, etc. Cheers! DOJP _______________________________________________
Fred Kiesche02 May 2012, 14:28

↳ in reply to Matthew Keeley

Oh, I haven't seen that secondary character before. Excellent! A nice touch. //scurries off to order the DVD's that are out that I haven't already purchased//
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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Matthew Keeley <matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com>wrote: There was a brief discussion of Wolfe and Fringe last month; I managed to find a link at the Huffington Post that shows the Long Sun scene. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/fringe -nothing-as-it-seems-exclusive_n_1390113.html -Matt On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Fred Kiesche <godelescherbach at gmail.com>wrote:
I have the first season on DVD, haven't gotten that far...but I've sent out a query to several frends who do watch it. Alas, they mostly do not read Gene Wolfe so the reference may have gone right by! On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Daniel Petersen < danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment Folks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have any way of seeing this. Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account of how Wolfe's *Litany of the Long Sun *was mentioned on this episode, in what context, for what reason, etc. Cheers! DOJP _______________________________________________
DAVID STOCKHOFF02 May 2012, 14:34

↳ in reply to Daniel Petersen

I think this was already described a few weeks back in this list, and a toob link provided.
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________________________________ From: Daniel Petersen <danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: (urth) Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment Folks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have any way of seeing this. ?Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account of how Wolfe's Litany of the Long Sun was mentioned on this episode, in what context, for what reason, etc. Cheers! DOJP _______________________________________________
Daniel Petersen02 May 2012, 17:12

↳ in reply to DAVID STOCKHOFF

Sorry if this had already been flagged up on the board. If it did, I missed it somehow and I just got notified of it in Wolfe google alerts today. Anyway, THANK YOU very much Matthew Keeley for hunting up that clip (and Frank for asking friends)! Turns out it's Lake of the Long Sun that's mentioned, not Litany (as the Hoof & Hide blog had said). I got so fanboy excited when I saw this, I immediately transcribed it: Bookseller: Can I help you? Man: I hope so. The lady here is looking for a book called Lake of the Long Sun by Gene Wolfe. Do you know him? Bookseller: Are you kidding me? I worship him! And a girl as beautiful as you who likes Sci Fi is a girl after my own heart. I’m Ed by the way. Woman: Olivia. Sorry, taken. Bookseller: All the best ones are. Story of my life. Ok, I’ve got the entire Solar Cycle, first edition. You want signed or unsigned? And from there they ask him if he knows about a cuneiform symbol that they show him on a piece of paper and the clip ends. So my guess is that this was a simple nod from the series writers to the s.f. community - maybe a little test of how erudite the bookseller's (and their audience's) knowledge is of one of the truly great works of modern s.f. (the Solar Cycle) - and that the reference doesn't really have anything to do with the plot. Still, NICE TOUCH! And how cool is it that out of all the authors of s.f. they chose Wolfe, and that they chose a volume from Long Sun rather than the more obvious New Sun, and that he refers to the ENTIRE series, the Solar Cycle? And that the dude says he worships him, ha! Amazing. That made my week. -DOJP
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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote: I think this was already described a few weeks back in this list, and a toob link provided. ------------------------------ From: Daniel Petersen <danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com>
Antonin Scriabin02 May 2012, 17:20

↳ in reply to Daniel Petersen

Yeah, someone working on that show is a die-hard fan :-)
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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Daniel Petersen < danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: Sorry if this had already been flagged up on the board. If it did, I missed it somehow and I just got notified of it in Wolfe google alerts today. Anyway, THANK YOU very much Matthew Keeley for hunting up that clip (and Frank for asking friends)! Turns out it's Lake of the Long Sun that's mentioned, not Litany (as the Hoof & Hide blog had said). I got so fanboy excited when I saw this, I immediately transcribed it: Bookseller: Can I help you? Man: I hope so. The lady here is looking for a book called Lake of the Long Sun by Gene Wolfe. Do you know him? Bookseller: Are you kidding me? I worship him! And a girl as beautiful as you who likes Sci Fi is a girl after my own heart. I’m Ed by the way. Woman: Olivia. Sorry, taken. Bookseller: All the best ones are. Story of my life. Ok, I’ve got the entire Solar Cycle, first edition. You want signed or unsigned? And from there they ask him if he knows about a cuneiform symbol that they show him on a piece of paper and the clip ends. So my guess is that this was a simple nod from the series writers to the s.f. community - maybe a little test of how erudite the bookseller's (and their audience's) knowledge is of one of the truly great works of modern s.f. (the Solar Cycle) - and that the reference doesn't really have anything to do with the plot. Still, NICE TOUCH! And how cool is it that out of all the authors of s.f. they chose Wolfe, and that they chose a volume from Long Sun rather than the more obvious New Sun, and that he refers to the ENTIRE series, the Solar Cycle? And that the dude says he worships him, ha! Amazing. That made my week. -DOJP On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:
I think this was already described a few weeks back in this list, and a toob link provided. ------------------------------ From: Daniel Petersen <danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com>
Dan'l Danehy-Oakes02 May 2012, 17:29

↳ in reply to Antonin Scriabin

Antonin Scriabin wrote: Honestly, it's just as likely that they wanted to establish the character as a geek/nerd and went for the geekiest book they could think of...especially given the line about a "girl who likes Sci-Fi."
Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
Daniel Petersen02 May 2012, 17:41

↳ in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes

The girl liking sci fi bit was painfully geeky to me, but I think it was a real name drop, a nod of respect, a wink to Wolfe nerds everywhere. I did just find all the threads on this from a few weeks ago and, I must say, I'm glad I brought it up again, so there, ha! Ya'll got that one WAY off track from the get go! Discussion of LOST brought all the lurkers out of the woodwork and no one even chatted about how cool this scene was. Someone brought it up again for a second and I like Mark Aramini's comment: ' that clip kind of cracked me up. It's like they are saying, if you read and enjoy Gene, cuneiform is no problem.' Anway, all good fun. -DOJP
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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com> wrote: Antonin Scriabin wrote: Honestly, it's just as likely that they wanted to establish the character as a geek/nerd and went for the geekiest book they could think of...especially given the line about a "girl who likes Sci-Fi." -- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes _______________________________________________

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