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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 6244, "subject": "Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week", "messages": 9, "voices": 6, "first": "2012-05-02T12:13:40+00:00", "last": "2012-05-02T17:41:26+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Daniel Petersen", "address": "danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-05-02T12:13:40+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment\n\nFolks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have any\nway of seeing this. Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account of\nhow Wolfe's *Litany of the Long Sun *was mentioned on this episode, in what\ncontext, for what reason, etc.\n\nCheers!\n\nDOJP" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Fred Kiesche", "address": "godelescherbach at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-05-02T13:34:32+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I have the first season on DVD, haven't gotten that far...but I've sent out\na query to several frends who do watch it. Alas, they mostly do not read\nGene Wolfe so the reference may have gone right by!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Daniel Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:\n\nhttp://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment\n\nFolks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have\nany way of seeing this. Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account\nof how Wolfe's *Litany of the Long Sun *was mentioned on this episode, in\nwhat context, for what reason, etc.\n\nCheers!\n\nDOJP\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Matthew Keeley", "address": "matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-05-02T13:57:39+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "There was a brief discussion of Wolfe and Fringe last month; I managed to\nfind a link at the Huffington Post that shows the Long Sun scene.\n\nhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/fringe\n-nothing-as-it-seems-exclusive_n_1390113.html\n\n-Matt" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Fred Kiesche wrote:\nI have the first season on DVD, haven't gotten that far...but I've sent\nout a query to several frends who do watch it. Alas, they mostly do not\nread Gene Wolfe so the reference may have gone right by!\n\nOn Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Daniel Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment\n\nFolks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have\nany way of seeing this. Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account\nof how Wolfe's *Litany of the Long Sun *was mentioned on this episode,\nin what context, for what reason, etc.\n\nCheers!\n\nDOJP\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Fred Kiesche", "address": "godelescherbach at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-05-02T14:28:07+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Oh, I haven't seen that secondary character before. Excellent! A nice touch.\n\n//scurries off to order the DVD's that are out that I haven't already\npurchased//" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Matthew Keeley\nwrote:\nThere was a brief discussion of Wolfe and Fringe last month; I managed to\nfind a link at the Huffington Post that shows the Long Sun scene.\n\nhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/fringe\n-nothing-as-it-seems-exclusive_n_1390113.html\n\n-Matt\n\n\nOn Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Fred Kiesche wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I have the first season on DVD, haven't gotten that far...but I've sent\nout a query to several frends who do watch it. Alas, they mostly do not\nread Gene Wolfe so the reference may have gone right by!\n\n On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Daniel Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment\n\nFolks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have\nany way of seeing this. Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account\nof how Wolfe's *Litany of the Long Sun *was mentioned on this episode,\nin what context, for what reason, etc.\n\nCheers!\n\nDOJP\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<1335969278.38072.YahooMailNeo@web84519.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "DAVID STOCKHOFF", "address": "dstockhoff at verizon.net" }, "date": "2012-05-02T14:34:38+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I think this was already described a few weeks back in this list, and a toob link provided. " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "________________________________\nFrom: Daniel Petersen \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 8:13 AM\nSubject: (urth) Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week\n\n\nhttp://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment \n\nFolks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have any way of seeing this. ?Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account of how Wolfe's Litany of the Long Sun was mentioned on this episode, in what context, for what reason, etc.\n\n\nCheers!\n\n\nDOJP\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Daniel Petersen", "address": "danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-05-02T17:12:18+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week", "in_reply_to": "<1335969278.38072.YahooMailNeo@web84519.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Sorry if this had already been flagged up on the board. If it did, I\nmissed it somehow and I just got notified of it in Wolfe google alerts\ntoday. Anyway, THANK YOU very much Matthew Keeley for hunting up that clip\n(and Frank for asking friends)! Turns out it's *Lake* of the Long Sun\nthat's mentioned, not *Litany* (as the Hoof & Hide blog had said). I got\nso fanboy excited when I saw this, I immediately transcribed it:\n\n*Bookseller:* Can I help you?\n\n*Man:* I hope so. The lady here is looking for a book called *Lake of the\nLong Sun* by Gene Wolfe. Do you know him?\n\n*Bookseller:* Are you kidding me? I worship him! And a girl as beautiful\nas you who likes Sci Fi is a girl after my own heart. I’m Ed by the way.\n\n*Woman:* Olivia. Sorry, taken.\n\n*Bookseller:* All the best ones are. Story of my life. Ok, I’ve got the\nentire Solar Cycle, first edition. You want signed or unsigned?\n\nAnd from there they ask him if he knows about a cuneiform symbol that they\nshow him on a piece of paper and the clip ends.\n\nSo my guess is that this was a simple nod from the series writers to the\ns.f. community - maybe a little test of how erudite the bookseller's (and\ntheir audience's) knowledge is of one of the truly great works of modern\ns.f. (the Solar Cycle) - and that the reference doesn't really have\nanything to do with the plot. Still, NICE TOUCH! And how cool is it that\nout of all the authors of s.f. they chose Wolfe, and that they chose a\nvolume from *Long* Sun rather than the more obvious *New* Sun, and that he\nrefers to the ENTIRE series, the Solar Cycle? And that the dude says he\nworships him, ha! Amazing.\n\nThat made my week.\n\n-DOJP" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote:\nI think this was already described a few weeks back in this list, and a\ntoob link provided.\n\n ------------------------------\n*From:* Daniel Petersen " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Antonin Scriabin", "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-05-02T17:20:27+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Yeah, someone working on that show is a die-hard fan :-)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Daniel Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:\nSorry if this had already been flagged up on the board. If it did, I\nmissed it somehow and I just got notified of it in Wolfe google alerts\ntoday. Anyway, THANK YOU very much Matthew Keeley for hunting up that clip\n(and Frank for asking friends)! Turns out it's *Lake* of the Long Sun\nthat's mentioned, not *Litany* (as the Hoof & Hide blog had said). I got\nso fanboy excited when I saw this, I immediately transcribed it:\n\n*Bookseller:* Can I help you?\n\n*Man:* I hope so. The lady here is looking for a book called *Lake of\nthe Long Sun* by Gene Wolfe. Do you know him?\n\n*Bookseller:* Are you kidding me? I worship him! And a girl as\nbeautiful as you who likes Sci Fi is a girl after my own heart. I’m Ed by\nthe way.\n\n*Woman:* Olivia. Sorry, taken.\n\n*Bookseller:* All the best ones are. Story of my life. Ok, I’ve got\nthe entire Solar Cycle, first edition. You want signed or unsigned?\n\nAnd from there they ask him if he knows about a cuneiform symbol that they\nshow him on a piece of paper and the clip ends.\n\nSo my guess is that this was a simple nod from the series writers to the\ns.f. community - maybe a little test of how erudite the bookseller's (and\ntheir audience's) knowledge is of one of the truly great works of modern\ns.f. (the Solar Cycle) - and that the reference doesn't really have\nanything to do with the plot. Still, NICE TOUCH! And how cool is it that\nout of all the authors of s.f. they chose Wolfe, and that they chose a\nvolume from *Long* Sun rather than the more obvious *New* Sun, and that\nhe refers to the ENTIRE series, the Solar Cycle? And that the dude says he\nworships him, ha! Amazing.\n\nThat made my week.\n\n-DOJP\n\nOn Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I think this was already described a few weeks back in this list, and a\ntoob link provided.\n\n ------------------------------\n*From:* Daniel Petersen " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-05-02T17:29:20+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Antonin Scriabin wrote:\n\nHonestly, it's just as likely that they wanted to establish the\ncharacter as a geek/nerd and went for the geekiest book they could\nthink of...especially given the line about a \"girl who likes Sci-Fi.\"" }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Daniel Petersen", "address": "danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-05-02T17:41:26+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "The girl liking sci fi bit was painfully geeky to me, but I think it was a\nreal name drop, a nod of respect, a wink to Wolfe nerds everywhere.\n\nI did just find all the threads on this from a few weeks ago and, I must\nsay, I'm glad I brought it up again, so there, ha! Ya'll got that one WAY\noff track from the get go! Discussion of LOST brought all the lurkers out\nof the woodwork and no one even chatted about how cool this scene was.\n Someone brought it up again for a second and I like Mark Aramini's\ncomment: ' that clip kind of cracked me up. It's like they are saying, if\nyou read and enjoy Gene, cuneiform is no problem.'\n\nAnway, all good fun.\n\n-DOJP" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\nAntonin Scriabin wrote:\n\nHonestly, it's just as likely that they wanted to establish the\ncharacter as a geek/nerd and went for the geekiest book they could\nthink of...especially given the line about a \"girl who likes Sci-Fi.\"\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] } ] }