# Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week *The Urth list — 9 messages, 6 voices, 02 May 2012* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Daniel Petersen *02 May 2012, 12:13* http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment Folks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have any way of seeing this. Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account of how Wolfe's *Litany of the Long Sun *was mentioned on this episode, in what context, for what reason, etc. Cheers! DOJP --- ### Fred Kiesche *02 May 2012, 13:34 · in reply to Daniel Petersen* I have the first season on DVD, haven't gotten that far...but I've sent out a query to several frends who do watch it. Alas, they mostly do not read Gene Wolfe so the reference may have gone right by! > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Daniel Petersen < > danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: > > http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment > > Folks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have > any way of seeing this. Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account > of how Wolfe's *Litany of the Long Sun *was mentioned on this episode, in > what context, for what reason, etc. > > Cheers! > > DOJP > > > > _______________________________________________ --- ### Matthew Keeley *02 May 2012, 13:57 · in reply to Fred Kiesche* There was a brief discussion of Wolfe and Fringe last month; I managed to find a link at the Huffington Post that shows the Long Sun scene. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/fringe -nothing-as-it-seems-exclusive_n_1390113.html -Matt > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Fred Kiesche wrote: > I have the first season on DVD, haven't gotten that far...but I've sent > out a query to several frends who do watch it. Alas, they mostly do not > read Gene Wolfe so the reference may have gone right by! > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Daniel Petersen < > danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: >> http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment >> >> Folks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have >> any way of seeing this. Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account >> of how Wolfe's *Litany of the Long Sun *was mentioned on this episode, >> in what context, for what reason, etc. >> >> Cheers! >> >> DOJP >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ --- ### Fred Kiesche *02 May 2012, 14:28 · in reply to Matthew Keeley* Oh, I haven't seen that secondary character before. Excellent! A nice touch. //scurries off to order the DVD's that are out that I haven't already purchased// > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Matthew Keeley > wrote: > There was a brief discussion of Wolfe and Fringe last month; I managed to > find a link at the Huffington Post that shows the Long Sun scene. > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/fringe > -nothing-as-it-seems-exclusive_n_1390113.html > > -Matt > > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Fred Kiesche wrote: >> I have the first season on DVD, haven't gotten that far...but I've sent >> out a query to several frends who do watch it. Alas, they mostly do not >> read Gene Wolfe so the reference may have gone right by! >> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Daniel Petersen < >> danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: >>> http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment >>> >>> Folks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have >>> any way of seeing this. Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account >>> of how Wolfe's *Litany of the Long Sun *was mentioned on this episode, >>> in what context, for what reason, etc. >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> DOJP >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ --- ### DAVID STOCKHOFF *02 May 2012, 14:34 · in reply to Daniel Petersen* I think this was already described a few weeks back in this list, and a toob link provided. > ________________________________ > From: Daniel Petersen > To: The Urth Mailing List > Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 8:13 AM > Subject: (urth) Wolfe's Long Sun mentioned on Fox TV program this week > > > http://www.hoofandhide.net/gene-wolfe-mentioned-on-episode-of-fringe#comment > > Folks, I don't have a TV and I live in Britain, so I don't think I have any way of seeing this. ?Can somebody kindly give a fairly detailed account of how Wolfe's Litany of the Long Sun was mentioned on this episode, in what context, for what reason, etc. > > > Cheers! > > > DOJP > > > > > _______________________________________________ --- ### Daniel Petersen *02 May 2012, 17:12 · in reply to DAVID STOCKHOFF* Sorry if this had already been flagged up on the board. If it did, I missed it somehow and I just got notified of it in Wolfe google alerts today. Anyway, THANK YOU very much Matthew Keeley for hunting up that clip (and Frank for asking friends)! Turns out it's *Lake* of the Long Sun that's mentioned, not *Litany* (as the Hoof & Hide blog had said). I got so fanboy excited when I saw this, I immediately transcribed it: *Bookseller:* Can I help you? *Man:* I hope so. The lady here is looking for a book called *Lake of the Long Sun* by Gene Wolfe. Do you know him? *Bookseller:* Are you kidding me? I worship him! And a girl as beautiful as you who likes Sci Fi is a girl after my own heart. I’m Ed by the way. *Woman:* Olivia. Sorry, taken. *Bookseller:* All the best ones are. Story of my life. Ok, I’ve got the entire Solar Cycle, first edition. You want signed or unsigned? And from there they ask him if he knows about a cuneiform symbol that they show him on a piece of paper and the clip ends. So my guess is that this was a simple nod from the series writers to the s.f. community - maybe a little test of how erudite the bookseller's (and their audience's) knowledge is of one of the truly great works of modern s.f. (the Solar Cycle) - and that the reference doesn't really have anything to do with the plot. Still, NICE TOUCH! And how cool is it that out of all the authors of s.f. they chose Wolfe, and that they chose a volume from *Long* Sun rather than the more obvious *New* Sun, and that he refers to the ENTIRE series, the Solar Cycle? And that the dude says he worships him, ha! Amazing. That made my week. -DOJP > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote: > I think this was already described a few weeks back in this list, and a > toob link provided. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Daniel Petersen --- ### Antonin Scriabin *02 May 2012, 17:20 · in reply to Daniel Petersen* Yeah, someone working on that show is a die-hard fan :-) > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Daniel Petersen < > danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry if this had already been flagged up on the board. If it did, I > missed it somehow and I just got notified of it in Wolfe google alerts > today. Anyway, THANK YOU very much Matthew Keeley for hunting up that clip > (and Frank for asking friends)! Turns out it's *Lake* of the Long Sun > that's mentioned, not *Litany* (as the Hoof & Hide blog had said). I got > so fanboy excited when I saw this, I immediately transcribed it: > > *Bookseller:* Can I help you? > > *Man:* I hope so. The lady here is looking for a book called *Lake of > the Long Sun* by Gene Wolfe. Do you know him? > > *Bookseller:* Are you kidding me? I worship him! And a girl as > beautiful as you who likes Sci Fi is a girl after my own heart. I’m Ed by > the way. > > *Woman:* Olivia. Sorry, taken. > > *Bookseller:* All the best ones are. Story of my life. Ok, I’ve got > the entire Solar Cycle, first edition. You want signed or unsigned? > > And from there they ask him if he knows about a cuneiform symbol that they > show him on a piece of paper and the clip ends. > > So my guess is that this was a simple nod from the series writers to the > s.f. community - maybe a little test of how erudite the bookseller's (and > their audience's) knowledge is of one of the truly great works of modern > s.f. (the Solar Cycle) - and that the reference doesn't really have > anything to do with the plot. Still, NICE TOUCH! And how cool is it that > out of all the authors of s.f. they chose Wolfe, and that they chose a > volume from *Long* Sun rather than the more obvious *New* Sun, and that > he refers to the ENTIRE series, the Solar Cycle? And that the dude says he > worships him, ha! Amazing. > > That made my week. > > -DOJP > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote: >> I think this was already described a few weeks back in this list, and a >> toob link provided. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Daniel Petersen --- ### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes *02 May 2012, 17:29 · in reply to Antonin Scriabin* Antonin Scriabin wrote: Honestly, it's just as likely that they wanted to establish the character as a geek/nerd and went for the geekiest book they could think of...especially given the line about a "girl who likes Sci-Fi." ``` Dan'l Danehy-Oakes ``` --- ### Daniel Petersen *02 May 2012, 17:41 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* The girl liking sci fi bit was painfully geeky to me, but I think it was a real name drop, a nod of respect, a wink to Wolfe nerds everywhere. I did just find all the threads on this from a few weeks ago and, I must say, I'm glad I brought it up again, so there, ha! Ya'll got that one WAY off track from the get go! Discussion of LOST brought all the lurkers out of the woodwork and no one even chatted about how cool this scene was. Someone brought it up again for a second and I like Mark Aramini's comment: ' that clip kind of cracked me up. It's like they are saying, if you read and enjoy Gene, cuneiform is no problem.' Anway, all good fun. -DOJP > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > Antonin Scriabin wrote: > > Honestly, it's just as likely that they wanted to establish the > character as a geek/nerd and went for the geekiest book they could > think of...especially given the line about a "girl who likes Sci-Fi." > > -- > Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > _______________________________________________ ---