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Does this work like a \"regular\" trilogy, in that\nit is necessary (or at least highly recommended) that the books be read in\norder? I know with Lafferty all bets are off, so I wouldn't be surprised\nif I could read them out of order!\n\nI am also not sure about the last couple volume ... the Wiki says that the\nthird book in the trilogy, *More Than Melchisedech, *is itself in three\nparts, that look like they were printed as chapbooks. All are virtually\nimpossible to find online, and incredibly expensive. If they were printed\nas chapbooks, do any of you know if they have been collected elsewhere,\nperhaps in a science fiction anthology or something similar? I ask because\nI stumbled across a nice copy of the second volume (*The Devil is Dead*)\nthat, while still expensive, was a bit more in my price range. Of course,\nI am also just plain curious about all things Lafferty I can find!\n*\n*\nThanks!* *" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Daniel Petersen", "address": "danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-07-16T21:59:17+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Question for Lafferty fans ...", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Hi Antonin, I still haven't read anything but *The Devil Is Dead* because\nthe other volumes have been too expensive for me to obtain. I get the\nimpression you can read at least the first two out of order, but it\neventually makes sense better if you read the entirety.\n\nInterestingly, related to Wolfe, I believe Lafferty's novella 'From The\nThunder Colt's Mouth' in the affordable 'science fiction triad' called *In\nthe Wake of Man* (where Wolfe's 'Tracking Song' first appeared) is an\nexcerpt from *More Than Melchisedech*. The novella is an interesting read\nin itself, but I'm not sure how much it tells you about the trilogy (I\ncertainly didn't notice much connection to *The Devil is Dead*, but there\nwas an appearance from *Devil*'s protagonist, Finnegan.)\n\nWhilst there is good news in the pipeline that there should be a new\nLafferty collection of short stories coming out in a few years' time\n(possibly introduced by some famous authors), with more popular volumes to\nfollow such as his novels *Past Master *and *Fourth Mansions* - the Argo\nMythos cycle (as the volumes you're referring to are sometimes called) is\nalmost certainly not high on the publisher's priority list and so it will\nstill be quite some time before they see the light of day.\n\nSince you're self-professedly curious about all things Lafferty, I highly\nrecommend a perusal of the Lafferty blog I write as some quite\nknowledgeable people frequently comment with lots of insights and insider\nknowledge about the publication of Lafferty.\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/\n\nTake care,\n\nDOJP\n\n(For those wondering what all this Lafferty stuff is doing here in a Wolfe\nboard, check out Wolfe's rather fawning comments on Lafferty here:\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/its-great-to-be-young-and-in-danger.html\n.)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Antonin Scriabin\nwrote:\nI was wondering if any of you have managed to get your hands on and read *\nArchipelago*, the first in the \"Devil is Dead\" trilogy. As far as I can\ntell, there was only one print run of 1,000, and the copies that I find\nonline are at least $150. Does this work like a \"regular\" trilogy, in that\nit is necessary (or at least highly recommended) that the books be read in\norder? I know with Lafferty all bets are off, so I wouldn't be surprised\nif I could read them out of order!\n\nI am also not sure about the last couple volume ... the Wiki says that the\nthird book in the trilogy, *More Than Melchisedech, *is itself in three\nparts, that look like they were printed as chapbooks. All are virtually\nimpossible to find online, and incredibly expensive. If they were printed\nas chapbooks, do any of you know if they have been collected elsewhere,\nperhaps in a science fiction anthology or something similar? I ask because\nI stumbled across a nice copy of the second volume (*The Devil is Dead*)\nthat, while still expensive, was a bit more in my price range. Of course,\nI am also just plain curious about all things Lafferty I can find!\n*\n*\nThanks!* *\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Antonin Scriabin", "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-07-16T22:22:30+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Question for Lafferty fans ...", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Thanks for the detailed response! It is remarkable that a writer of\nLafferty's caliber has such a fragmented oeuvre. As I was searching for\nmore about this trilogy I came across many references to unpublished works\nof his, and of course some of the published things were limited print runs,\nchapbooks, etc. A shame, really! I will see if I can find *In the Wake of\nMan*, Lafferty + Wolfe will of course be a great combo. Where did you\nhappen to hear about the possibly forthcoming Lafferty reprints? The short\nstory collection seems particularly interesting; *Nine Hundred\nGrandmothers* is hands down my favorite book of short stories. Thanks for\nthe link to your blog, I remember having read some posts there after\nfinding your Wolfe blog. Good stuff!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Daniel Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:\nHi Antonin, I still haven't read anything but *The Devil Is Dead* because\nthe other volumes have been too expensive for me to obtain. I get the\nimpression you can read at least the first two out of order, but it\neventually makes sense better if you read the entirety.\n\nInterestingly, related to Wolfe, I believe Lafferty's novella 'From The\nThunder Colt's Mouth' in the affordable 'science fiction triad' called *In\nthe Wake of Man* (where Wolfe's 'Tracking Song' first appeared) is an\nexcerpt from *More Than Melchisedech*. The novella is an interesting\nread in itself, but I'm not sure how much it tells you about the trilogy (I\ncertainly didn't notice much connection to *The Devil is Dead*, but there\nwas an appearance from *Devil*'s protagonist, Finnegan.)\n\nWhilst there is good news in the pipeline that there should be a new\nLafferty collection of short stories coming out in a few years' time\n(possibly introduced by some famous authors), with more popular volumes to\nfollow such as his novels *Past Master *and *Fourth Mansions* - the Argo\nMythos cycle (as the volumes you're referring to are sometimes called) is\nalmost certainly not high on the publisher's priority list and so it will\nstill be quite some time before they see the light of day.\n\nSince you're self-professedly curious about all things Lafferty, I highly\nrecommend a perusal of the Lafferty blog I write as some quite\nknowledgeable people frequently comment with lots of insights and insider\nknowledge about the publication of Lafferty.\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/\n\nTake care,\n\nDOJP\n\n(For those wondering what all this Lafferty stuff is doing here in a Wolfe\nboard, check out Wolfe's rather fawning comments on Lafferty here:\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/its-great-to-be-young-and-in-danger.html\n.)\n\nOn Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Antonin Scriabin <\nkierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I was wondering if any of you have managed to get your hands on and read\n*Archipelago*, the first in the \"Devil is Dead\" trilogy. As far as I\ncan tell, there was only one print run of 1,000, and the copies that I find\nonline are at least $150. Does this work like a \"regular\" trilogy, in that\nit is necessary (or at least highly recommended) that the books be read in\norder? I know with Lafferty all bets are off, so I wouldn't be surprised\nif I could read them out of order!\n\nI am also not sure about the last couple volume ... the Wiki says that\nthe third book in the trilogy, *More Than Melchisedech, *is itself in\nthree parts, that look like they were printed as chapbooks. All are\nvirtually impossible to find online, and incredibly expensive. If they\nwere printed as chapbooks, do any of you know if they have been collected\nelsewhere, perhaps in a science fiction anthology or something similar? I\nask because I stumbled across a nice copy of the second volume (*The\nDevil is Dead*) that, while still expensive, was a bit more in my price\nrange. Of course, I am also just plain curious about all things Lafferty I\ncan find!\n*\n*\nThanks!* *\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Daniel Petersen", "address": "danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-07-16T22:31:34+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Question for Lafferty fans ...", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "My pleasure, Antonin! Only too glad to try to help out another Laff\nenthusiast. There's a guy who comments on the blog called Andrew Ferguson\nwho wrote his MA dissertation on Lafferty (the only academic paper on\nLafferty so far):\nhttp://virginia.academia.edu/AndrewFerguson/Papers/288013/Lafferty_and_His_World.\n He has passed along some of this insider knowledge about upcoming\npublication of Lafferty.\n\n-DOJP\n\nOn Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Antonin Scriabin wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Hi Antonin, I still haven't read anything but *The Devil Is Dead*because the other volumes have been too expensive for me to obtain. I get\nthe impression you can read at least the first two out of order, but it\neventually makes sense better if you read the entirety.\n\nInterestingly, related to Wolfe, I believe Lafferty's novella 'From The\nThunder Colt's Mouth' in the affordable 'science fiction triad' called *In\nthe Wake of Man* (where Wolfe's 'Tracking Song' first appeared) is an\nexcerpt from *More Than Melchisedech*. The novella is an interesting\nread in itself, but I'm not sure how much it tells you about the trilogy (I\ncertainly didn't notice much connection to *The Devil is Dead*, but\nthere was an appearance from *Devil*'s protagonist, Finnegan.)\n\nWhilst there is good news in the pipeline that there should be a new\nLafferty collection of short stories coming out in a few years' time\n(possibly introduced by some famous authors), with more popular volumes to\nfollow such as his novels *Past Master *and *Fourth Mansions* - the Argo\nMythos cycle (as the volumes you're referring to are sometimes called) is\nalmost certainly not high on the publisher's priority list and so it will\nstill be quite some time before they see the light of day.\n\nSince you're self-professedly curious about all things Lafferty, I highly\nrecommend a perusal of the Lafferty blog I write as some quite\nknowledgeable people frequently comment with lots of insights and insider\nknowledge about the publication of Lafferty.\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/\n\nTake care,\n\nDOJP\n\n(For those wondering what all this Lafferty stuff is doing here in a\nWolfe board, check out Wolfe's rather fawning comments on Lafferty here:\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/its-great-to-be-young-and-in-danger.html\n.)\n\nOn Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Antonin Scriabin <\nkierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": " I was wondering if any of you have managed to get your hands on and\nread *Archipelago*, the first in the \"Devil is Dead\" trilogy. As far\nas I can tell, there was only one print run of 1,000, and the copies that I\nfind online are at least $150. Does this work like a \"regular\" trilogy, in\nthat it is necessary (or at least highly recommended) that the books be\nread in order? I know with Lafferty all bets are off, so I wouldn't be\nsurprised if I could read them out of order!\n\nI am also not sure about the last couple volume ... the Wiki says that\nthe third book in the trilogy, *More Than Melchisedech, *is itself in\nthree parts, that look like they were printed as chapbooks. All are\nvirtually impossible to find online, and incredibly expensive. If they\nwere printed as chapbooks, do any of you know if they have been collected\nelsewhere, perhaps in a science fiction anthology or something similar? I\nask because I stumbled across a nice copy of the second volume (*The\nDevil is Dead*) that, while still expensive, was a bit more in my price\nrange. Of course, I am also just plain curious about all things Lafferty I\ncan find!\n*\n*\nThanks!* *\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] } ] }