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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 6283, "subject": "New Andre-Driussi book", "messages": 12, "voices": 7, "first": "2012-08-21T18:50:00+00:00", "last": "2012-08-24T02:21:53+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-08-21T18:50:00+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Andre-Driussi book", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books\nof the Long/Short sun. It's called \"Gate of Horn, Book of Silk,\" and\nit looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know,\none for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers\ncant and foreign words pretty thoroughly.\n\nOfficial publication date is 10/15/12." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Antonin Scriabin", "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-08-21T19:01:45+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Andre-Driussi book", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Very cool. Do you happen to have a link? I can't seem to find anything\nonline as far as cover art or anything like that goes." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\nMichael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books\nof the Long/Short sun. It's called \"Gate of Horn, Book of Silk,\" and\nit looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know,\none for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers\ncant and foreign words pretty thoroughly.\n\nOfficial publication date is 10/15/12.\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-08-21T19:08:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Andre-Driussi book", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Sorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and\nhe hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin\n wrote:\nVery cool. Do you happen to have a link? I can't seem to find anything\nonline as far as cover art or anything like that goes.\n\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books\nof the Long/Short sun. It's called \"Gate of Horn, Book of Silk,\" and\nit looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know,\none for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers\ncant and foreign words pretty thoroughly.\n\nOfficial publication date is 10/15/12.\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Matthew Keeley", "address": "matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-08-21T19:09:42+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Andre-Driussi book", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Michael Swanwick has a blog post about it, with pictures and quotes:\nhttp://floggingbabel.blogspot.com/2012/08/michael-andre-driussi-strikes-again.html\n\n-Matt" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\nSorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and\nhe hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet.\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Very cool. Do you happen to have a link? I can't seem to find anything\nonline as far as cover art or anything like that goes.\n\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books\nof the Long/Short sun. It's called \"Gate of Horn, Book of Silk,\" and\nit looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know,\none for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers\ncant and foreign words pretty thoroughly.\n\nOfficial publication date is 10/15/12.\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Antonin Scriabin", "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-08-21T19:18:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Andre-Driussi book", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I love the terms \"Lukosophists\" and \"Eisengrimandoes\" :-)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Matthew Keeley\nwrote:\nMichael Swanwick has a blog post about it, with pictures and quotes:\n\nhttp://floggingbabel.blogspot.com/2012/08/michael-andre-driussi-strikes-again.html\n\n-Matt\n\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Sorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and\nhe hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet.\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Very cool. Do you happen to have a link? I can't seem to find anything\nonline as far as cover art or anything like that goes.\n\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books\nof the Long/Short sun. It's called \"Gate of Horn, Book of Silk,\" and\nit looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know,\none for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers\ncant and foreign words pretty thoroughly.\n\nOfficial publication date is 10/15/12.\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Daniel Petersen", "address": "danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-08-21T19:20:16+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Andre-Driussi book", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "That is flipping amazing good news. I've been thinking for ages that these\nother two 'Books' of the Solar Cycle were well worthy of their own\nlexicons, but I had totally resigned myself to that never happening.\n That's why I'm quite taken aback here. Feels like Christmas.\n\nAndre-Driussi is truly a legend. Outsider bless 'im!\n\n-DOJP" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\nSorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and\nhe hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet.\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Very cool. Do you happen to have a link? I can't seem to find anything\nonline as far as cover art or anything like that goes.\n\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books\nof the Long/Short sun. It's called \"Gate of Horn, Book of Silk,\" and\nit looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know,\none for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers\ncant and foreign words pretty thoroughly.\n\nOfficial publication date is 10/15/12.\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Antonin Scriabin", "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-08-21T19:21:35+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Andre-Driussi book", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I guess this bumps \"Return to the Whorl\" to the top of my to-read pile ..." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Daniel Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:\nThat is flipping amazing good news. I've been thinking for ages that\nthese other two 'Books' of the Solar Cycle were well worthy of their own\nlexicons, but I had totally resigned myself to that never happening.\n That's why I'm quite taken aback here. Feels like Christmas.\n\nAndre-Driussi is truly a legend. Outsider bless 'im!\n\n-DOJP\n\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Sorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and\nhe hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet.\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Very cool. Do you happen to have a link? I can't seem to find anything\nonline as far as cover art or anything like that goes.\n\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books\nof the Long/Short sun. It's called \"Gate of Horn, Book of Silk,\" and\nit looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know,\none for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers\ncant and foreign words pretty thoroughly.\n\nOfficial publication date is 10/15/12.\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<1345736559.99276.YahooMailClassic@web160706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2012-08-23T15:42:39+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Andre-Driussi book", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I had a chance to look at an advance copy - he has done an exceedingly thorough job on the categories and taxonomy of names in Long Sun and on the timeline with relevant page numbers of the Short Sun. He also acknowledges many of the list members from the late 90s and early 2000s in his introduction.\n\nIt is especially worthwhile for actually finding scenes in the broken time line of Short Sun. I found the observations on the sizes of things very helpful.\n\n\n--- On Tue, 8/21/12, Daniel Petersen wrote:\n\n\nFrom: Daniel Petersen \nSubject: Re: (urth) New Andre-Driussi book\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 12:20 PM\n\n\nThat is flipping amazing good news. ?I've been thinking for ages that these other two 'Books' of the Solar Cycle were well worthy of their own lexicons, but I had totally resigned myself to that never happening. ?That's why I'm quite taken aback here. ?Feels like Christmas.\n\n\nAndre-Driussi is truly a legend. ?Outsider bless 'im!\n\n\n\n-DOJP\n\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\n\nSorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and\nhe hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin\n wrote:\nVery cool. “Do you happen to have a link” ?I can't seem to find anything\nonline as far as cover art or anything like that goes.\n\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books\nof the Long/Short sun. It's called \"Gate of Horn, Book of Silk,\" and\nit looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know,\none for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers\ncant and foreign words pretty thoroughly.\n\nOfficial publication date is 10/15/12.\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________\nUrth Mailing List\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "_______________________________________________\nUrth Mailing List\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net" }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes\n\n\n-----Inline Attachment Follows-----" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Larry Miller", "address": "decanus1284 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-08-23T16:20:35+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Andre-Driussi book", "in_reply_to": "<1345736559.99276.YahooMailClassic@web160706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Does anyone know if there will be any supplements (maps, synopsis of\nSilk/Horns stories, etc.)? Marc, you mentioned a timeline. What does\nit cover exactly?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 8/23/12, Marc Aramini wrote:\nI had a chance to look at an advance copy - he has done an exceedingly\nthorough job on the categories and taxonomy of names in Long Sun and on the\ntimeline with relevant page numbers of the Short Sun. He also acknowledges\nmany of the list members from the late 90s and early 2000s in his\nintroduction.\n\nIt is especially worthwhile for actually finding scenes in the broken time\nline of Short Sun. I found the observations on the sizes of things very\nhelpful.\n\n\n--- On Tue, 8/21/12, Daniel Petersen \nwrote:\n\n\nFrom: Daniel Petersen \nSubject: Re: (urth) New Andre-Driussi book\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 12:20 PM\n\n\nThat is flipping amazing good news. ?I've been thinking for ages that these\nother two 'Books' of the Solar Cycle were well worthy of their own lexicons,\nbut I had totally resigned myself to that never happening. ?That's why I'm\nquite taken aback here. ?Feels like Christmas.\n\n\nAndre-Driussi is truly a legend. ?Outsider bless 'im!\n\n\n\n-DOJP\n\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nwrote:\n\nSorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and\nhe hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet.\n\n\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Very cool. “Do you happen to have a link” ?I can't seem to find anything\nonline as far as cover art or anything like that goes.\n\n\nOn Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books\nof the Long/Short sun. It's called \"Gate of Horn, Book of Silk,\" and\nit looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know,\none for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers\ncant and foreign words pretty thoroughly.\n\nOfficial publication date is 10/15/12.\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<1345748248.74576.YahooMailClassic@web160701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2012-08-23T18:57:28+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Andre-Driussi book", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "The timeline in Short Sun with relevant page numbers is the closest thing to \"summary\" and is his best work on the Short Sun part. He even breaks down on which pages the narrator is writing about a certain past event in a multi section timeline that is more or less chronological.\n\nThe Long Sun section was more \"helpful\" to me, especially taxonomy of the names?(but I spent countless hours thinking about Short Sun) - something I always meant to do but never really got around to, and he has pretty much done all that leg work already. ?\n\nIt's worth a buy especially if you haven't gone through the oldest whorl archives. I made a few \"strong\" suggestions about entries that should be included in Short Sun (a liana entry in the short sun half, for example) but I don't know if he will incorporate any changes at all in the final release.\n\nI think we need to support scholarly works on Wolfe if we want to ever see more." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "aaron", "address": "aaronsingleton at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-08-24T02:15:06+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Andre-Driussi book", "in_reply_to": "<1345748248.74576.YahooMailClassic@web160701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "This is great news. I wonder if Wolfe will write another introduction for\nthis one?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Marc Aramini wrote:\nThe timeline in Short Sun with relevant page numbers is the closest thing\nto \"summary\" and is his best work on the Short Sun part. He even breaks\ndown on which pages the narrator is writing about a certain past event in a\nmulti section timeline that is more or less chronological.\n\nThe Long Sun section was more \"helpful\" to me, especially taxonomy of the\nnames (but I spent countless hours thinking about Short Sun) - something I\nalways meant to do but never really got around to, and he has pretty much\ndone all that leg work already.\n\nIt's worth a buy especially if you haven't gone through the oldest whorl\narchives. I made a few \"strong\" suggestions about entries that should be\nincluded in Short Sun (a liana entry in the short sun half, for example)\nbut I don't know if he will incorporate any changes at all in the final\nrelease.\n\nI think we need to support scholarly works on Wolfe if we want to ever see\nmore.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Antonin Scriabin", "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-08-24T02:21:53+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Andre-Driussi book", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From the picture Swanwick posted, it looks like Wolfe very well may have\nwritten some kind of introductory text." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM, aaron wrote:\nThis is great news. I wonder if Wolfe will write another introduction for\nthis one?\n\nOn Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Marc Aramini wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "The timeline in Short Sun with relevant page numbers is the closest thing\nto \"summary\" and is his best work on the Short Sun part. He even breaks\ndown on which pages the narrator is writing about a certain past event in a\nmulti section timeline that is more or less chronological.\n\nThe Long Sun section was more \"helpful\" to me, especially taxonomy of the\nnames (but I spent countless hours thinking about Short Sun) - something I\nalways meant to do but never really got around to, and he has pretty much\ndone all that leg work already.\n\nIt's worth a buy especially if you haven't gone through the oldest whorl\narchives. I made a few \"strong\" suggestions about entries that should be\nincluded in Short Sun (a liana entry in the short sun half, for example)\nbut I don't know if he will incorporate any changes at all in the final\nrelease.\n\nI think we need to support scholarly works on Wolfe if we want to ever\nsee more.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] } ] }