# New Andre-Driussi book *The Urth list — 12 messages, 7 voices, 21 Aug 2012* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes *21 Aug 2012, 18:50* Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books of the Long/Short sun. It's called "Gate of Horn, Book of Silk," and it looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know, one for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers cant and foreign words pretty thoroughly. Official publication date is 10/15/12. ``` Dan'l Danehy-Oakes ``` --- ### Antonin Scriabin *21 Aug 2012, 19:01 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* Very cool. Do you happen to have a link? I can't seem to find anything online as far as cover art or anything like that goes. > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books > of the Long/Short sun. It's called "Gate of Horn, Book of Silk," and > it looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know, > one for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers > cant and foreign words pretty thoroughly. > > Official publication date is 10/15/12. > > -- > Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > _______________________________________________ --- ### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes *21 Aug 2012, 19:08 · in reply to Antonin Scriabin* Sorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and he hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet. > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin > wrote: > Very cool. Do you happen to have a link? I can't seem to find anything > online as far as cover art or anything like that goes. > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > wrote: >> Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books >> of the Long/Short sun. It's called "Gate of Horn, Book of Silk," and >> it looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know, >> one for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers >> cant and foreign words pretty thoroughly. >> >> Official publication date is 10/15/12. >> >> -- >> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >> _______________________________________________ --- ### Matthew Keeley *21 Aug 2012, 19:09 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* Michael Swanwick has a blog post about it, with pictures and quotes: http://floggingbabel.blogspot.com/2012/08/michael-andre-driussi-strikes-again.html -Matt > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > Sorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and > he hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet. > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin > wrote: >> Very cool. Do you happen to have a link? I can't seem to find anything >> online as far as cover art or anything like that goes. >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >> wrote: >>> Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books >>> of the Long/Short sun. It's called "Gate of Horn, Book of Silk," and >>> it looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know, >>> one for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers >>> cant and foreign words pretty thoroughly. >>> >>> Official publication date is 10/15/12. >>> >>> -- >>> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >>> _______________________________________________ --- ### Antonin Scriabin *21 Aug 2012, 19:18 · in reply to Matthew Keeley* I love the terms "Lukosophists" and "Eisengrimandoes" :-) > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Matthew Keeley > wrote: > Michael Swanwick has a blog post about it, with pictures and quotes: > > http://floggingbabel.blogspot.com/2012/08/michael-andre-driussi-strikes-again.html > > -Matt > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: >> Sorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and >> he hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet. >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin >> wrote: >>> Very cool. Do you happen to have a link? I can't seem to find anything >>> online as far as cover art or anything like that goes. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >>> wrote: >>>> Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books >>>> of the Long/Short sun. It's called "Gate of Horn, Book of Silk," and >>>> it looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know, >>>> one for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers >>>> cant and foreign words pretty thoroughly. >>>> >>>> Official publication date is 10/15/12. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >>>> _______________________________________________ --- ### Daniel Petersen *21 Aug 2012, 19:20 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* That is flipping amazing good news. I've been thinking for ages that these other two 'Books' of the Solar Cycle were well worthy of their own lexicons, but I had totally resigned myself to that never happening. That's why I'm quite taken aback here. Feels like Christmas. Andre-Driussi is truly a legend. Outsider bless 'im! -DOJP > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > Sorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and > he hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet. > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin > wrote: >> Very cool. Do you happen to have a link? I can't seem to find anything >> online as far as cover art or anything like that goes. >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >> wrote: >>> Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books >>> of the Long/Short sun. It's called "Gate of Horn, Book of Silk," and >>> it looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know, >>> one for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers >>> cant and foreign words pretty thoroughly. >>> >>> Official publication date is 10/15/12. >>> >>> -- >>> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >>> _______________________________________________ --- ### Antonin Scriabin *21 Aug 2012, 19:21 · in reply to Daniel Petersen* I guess this bumps "Return to the Whorl" to the top of my to-read pile ... > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Daniel Petersen < > danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: > That is flipping amazing good news. I've been thinking for ages that > these other two 'Books' of the Solar Cycle were well worthy of their own > lexicons, but I had totally resigned myself to that never happening. > That's why I'm quite taken aback here. Feels like Christmas. > > Andre-Driussi is truly a legend. Outsider bless 'im! > > -DOJP > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: >> Sorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and >> he hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet. >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin >> wrote: >>> Very cool. Do you happen to have a link? I can't seem to find anything >>> online as far as cover art or anything like that goes. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >>> wrote: >>>> Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books >>>> of the Long/Short sun. It's called "Gate of Horn, Book of Silk," and >>>> it looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know, >>>> one for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers >>>> cant and foreign words pretty thoroughly. >>>> >>>> Official publication date is 10/15/12. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >>>> _______________________________________________ --- ### Marc Aramini *23 Aug 2012, 15:42 · in reply to Daniel Petersen* I had a chance to look at an advance copy - he has done an exceedingly thorough job on the categories and taxonomy of names in Long Sun and on the timeline with relevant page numbers of the Short Sun. He also acknowledges many of the list members from the late 90s and early 2000s in his introduction. It is especially worthwhile for actually finding scenes in the broken time line of Short Sun. I found the observations on the sizes of things very helpful. --- On Tue, 8/21/12, Daniel Petersen wrote: From: Daniel Petersen Subject: Re: (urth) New Andre-Driussi book To: "The Urth Mailing List" Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 12:20 PM That is flipping amazing good news. ?I've been thinking for ages that these other two 'Books' of the Solar Cycle were well worthy of their own lexicons, but I had totally resigned myself to that never happening. ?That's why I'm quite taken aback here. ?Feels like Christmas. Andre-Driussi is truly a legend. ?Outsider bless 'im! -DOJP On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: Sorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and he hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet. > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin > wrote: > Very cool. “Do you happen to have a link” ?I can't seem to find anything > online as far as cover art or anything like that goes. > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > wrote: >> Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books >> of the Long/Short sun. It's called "Gate of Horn, Book of Silk," and >> it looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know, >> one for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers >> cant and foreign words pretty thoroughly. >> >> Official publication date is 10/15/12. >> >> -- >> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >> _______________________________________________ >> Urth Mailing List >> To post, write urth at urth.net >> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net ``` Dan'l Danehy-Oakes -----Inline Attachment Follows----- ``` --- ### Larry Miller *23 Aug 2012, 16:20 · in reply to Marc Aramini* Does anyone know if there will be any supplements (maps, synopsis of Silk/Horns stories, etc.)? Marc, you mentioned a timeline. What does it cover exactly? > On 8/23/12, Marc Aramini wrote: > I had a chance to look at an advance copy - he has done an exceedingly > thorough job on the categories and taxonomy of names in Long Sun and on the > timeline with relevant page numbers of the Short Sun. He also acknowledges > many of the list members from the late 90s and early 2000s in his > introduction. > > It is especially worthwhile for actually finding scenes in the broken time > line of Short Sun. I found the observations on the sizes of things very > helpful. > > > --- On Tue, 8/21/12, Daniel Petersen > wrote: > > > From: Daniel Petersen > Subject: Re: (urth) New Andre-Driussi book > To: "The Urth Mailing List" > Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 12:20 PM > > > That is flipping amazing good news. ?I've been thinking for ages that these > other two 'Books' of the Solar Cycle were well worthy of their own lexicons, > but I had totally resigned myself to that never happening. ?That's why I'm > quite taken aback here. ?Feels like Christmas. > > > Andre-Driussi is truly a legend. ?Outsider bless 'im! > > > > -DOJP > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > wrote: > > Sorry, no, I don't have a link; the information comes from Michael and > he hasn't even posted it on the Sirius Fiction site yet. > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Antonin Scriabin > wrote: >> Very cool. “Do you happen to have a link” ?I can't seem to find anything >> online as far as cover art or anything like that goes. >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >> wrote: >>> Michael Andre-Driussi has a new concordance coming out for the books >>> of the Long/Short sun. It's called "Gate of Horn, Book of Silk," and >>> it looks pretty good. It's divided into two parts -- what do ya know, >>> one for Long and one for Short -- with a section inbetween that covers >>> cant and foreign words pretty thoroughly. >>> >>> Official publication date is 10/15/12. >>> >>> -- >>> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes >>> _______________________________________________ --- ### Marc Aramini *23 Aug 2012, 18:57 · in reply to Daniel Petersen* The timeline in Short Sun with relevant page numbers is the closest thing to "summary" and is his best work on the Short Sun part. He even breaks down on which pages the narrator is writing about a certain past event in a multi section timeline that is more or less chronological. The Long Sun section was more "helpful" to me, especially taxonomy of the names?(but I spent countless hours thinking about Short Sun) - something I always meant to do but never really got around to, and he has pretty much done all that leg work already. ? It's worth a buy especially if you haven't gone through the oldest whorl archives. I made a few "strong" suggestions about entries that should be included in Short Sun (a liana entry in the short sun half, for example) but I don't know if he will incorporate any changes at all in the final release. I think we need to support scholarly works on Wolfe if we want to ever see more. --- ### aaron *24 Aug 2012, 02:15 · in reply to Marc Aramini* This is great news. I wonder if Wolfe will write another introduction for this one? > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Marc Aramini wrote: > The timeline in Short Sun with relevant page numbers is the closest thing > to "summary" and is his best work on the Short Sun part. He even breaks > down on which pages the narrator is writing about a certain past event in a > multi section timeline that is more or less chronological. > > The Long Sun section was more "helpful" to me, especially taxonomy of the > names (but I spent countless hours thinking about Short Sun) - something I > always meant to do but never really got around to, and he has pretty much > done all that leg work already. > > It's worth a buy especially if you haven't gone through the oldest whorl > archives. I made a few "strong" suggestions about entries that should be > included in Short Sun (a liana entry in the short sun half, for example) > but I don't know if he will incorporate any changes at all in the final > release. > > I think we need to support scholarly works on Wolfe if we want to ever see > more. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ --- ### Antonin Scriabin *24 Aug 2012, 02:21 · in reply to aaron* > From the picture Swanwick posted, it looks like Wolfe very well may have > written some kind of introductory text. > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM, aaron wrote: > This is great news. I wonder if Wolfe will write another introduction for > this one? > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Marc Aramini wrote: >> The timeline in Short Sun with relevant page numbers is the closest thing >> to "summary" and is his best work on the Short Sun part. He even breaks >> down on which pages the narrator is writing about a certain past event in a >> multi section timeline that is more or less chronological. >> >> The Long Sun section was more "helpful" to me, especially taxonomy of the >> names (but I spent countless hours thinking about Short Sun) - something I >> always meant to do but never really got around to, and he has pretty much >> done all that leg work already. >> >> It's worth a buy especially if you haven't gone through the oldest whorl >> archives. I made a few "strong" suggestions about entries that should be >> included in Short Sun (a liana entry in the short sun half, for example) >> but I don't know if he will incorporate any changes at all in the final >> release. >> >> I think we need to support scholarly works on Wolfe if we want to ever >> see more. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ ---