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  "thread": {
    "id": 633,
    "subject": "Big Booty",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1998-05-18T09:09:34+00:00",
    "last": "1998-05-18T09:09:34+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0011-0066@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan Parmenter",
        "address": "dan at lec.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-05-18T09:09:34+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Big Booty",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "From: \"Alice Turner\" <al at interport.net>\nSpeaking of these major players, as mantis was doing if only en passant, it\nseems to me that Wolfe has left a distinctly loose thread in their regard.\nThe New Sun, the great flood et al would seem to me to be just dandy for\nthem. True they're lost most of their human allies, but they probably retain\na proportional number of survivors. They have much more water to wallow\nabout in. The undines are feeling feisty, as we actually see. It could be\nsaid that E, A & S have inherited Ushas. And that their interest in Severian\nwas to that end. And that therefore he is a servant of evil, certainly an\nenemy of the Commonwealth, willingly or not. Any comment?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "But the old Autarch tells us that they seek to enslave mankind.  Not\njust those in boats, one assumes.  "
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "From: m.driussi at genie.com\nI was going to write that if Vodalus knew with certainty that he was\nbeing supported by the autarch himself rather than a shadowy faction\nwithin the House Absolute, he would break the link.  But I'm not so\nsure . . . Vodalus might be another patsy, another candidate for the\nthrone being cultivated by the autarch, in the same way that\nBaldanders is being cultivated for the throne by O, B, & F.  (For\nexample, Thecla was not arrested by the autarch's order, but by some\nfaction apparently a bit more concerned with stopping Vodalus.)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I'm inclined to think of Vodalus as a total patsy.  His dialogue is\nfilled with stock phrases like \"that mewling fool, the Autarch\" which\nseem too trite to be believed.  He seems like a charismatic rebel\nfigure, somewhat taken with himself, but really just another rich\nidler who might otherwise be torturing the prisoners in the\nantechamber, trysting in the Secret House and tripping on Alzabo in\nthe woods on the weekends with his lowlife friends.  He has about as\nmuch to do with real revolution as Mick Jagger.\n\nBTW, it strikes me that Baldanders, for all of his mad science is just\nas capable of \"not getting it\" as Severian is.  When the Hierodules\nbow down before Severian, Balanders assumes that it is due to the fact\nthat he will \"win\" the immediate conflict (the angry mob of Lake\nPeople vs. the Mad Scientist/Monster Baldanders).  He's not thinking\nvery globally, which is generally Severian's problem too.\n\nD"
        }
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