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Kiesche III \"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always,\nscribble, scribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being\npresented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.)\nBlogging at The Lensman's Children (\nhttp://theeternalgoldenbraid.blogspot.com/)." } ] }, { "message_id": "<49A83229-ED27-47A0-9E90-A21B755CA21B@liftingfaces.com>", "from": { "name": "Ryan Dunn", "address": "ryan at liftingfaces.com" }, "date": "2012-12-18T14:05:30+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Gene Wolfe to Appear on Coode Street Podcast", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "These (New Sun) questions comes from an old neighbor of Gene's who now resides outside NYC...\n\n- Is Agia a robot? A retired sex toy? Hethor's poppet?\n\n- He dreams of marionettes. He finds himself in a traveling play about the New Sun. He is overtly and covertly being watched throughout the books. Would it be fair to surmise that Severian's life is one big puppetshow, and that, while we can't see the strings, they are going up his back throughout his story?\n\n...ryan\n\nSent from my iPhone" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Dec 18, 2012, at 6:58 AM, Fred Kiesche wrote:\nJonathan Strahan and Gary K. Wolfe will be having special guest Gene Wolfe on The Coode Street Podcast (to be recording this weekend). They have put out a call for questions. Post them here or e-mail me (GodelEscherBach at gmail.com) and I'll pass 'em on.\n\n-- \nF.P. Kiesche III \"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The Lensman's Children (http://theeternalgoldenbraid.blogspot.com/).\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<1355848813.98323.YahooMailNeo@web124501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Jerry Friedman", "address": "jerry_friedman at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2012-12-18T16:40:13+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Gene Wolfe to Appear on Coode Street Podcast", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Is there any reason to think Wolfe would answer specific questions about the stories, such as the ones Ryan Dunn suggested? I think he's said he won't do that any more. Even if he won't, we might have fun discussing what questions we most want the answers to and seeing whether there's any agreement.\n\nAnyway, here are questions on his beliefs (mostly). The introductory parts about his stories can be shortened or removed.\n\nIn \"The Fifth Head of Cerberus\", the narrator is a clone--possibly a clone of you, some generations later--and many readers have understood his appalling character as suggesting that this unnatural method of reproduction would produce people cut off from the good side of humanity, maybe even leading to the Beast of Revelation. In Pirate Freedom, the narrator is the product of genetic engineering, possibly a clone, and though he has a good side, he does some terrible things and calls himself a \"half-human monster\". Now perhaps human cloning is possible or will soon be. What do you think of it? What would you tell somebody who was thinking of trying to get a clone made of himself or herself or of a dead family member?\n\nIn The Book of the New Sun, the narrator is a torturer who eventually decides to end torture in his Commonwealth. In Pirate Freedom, the narrator comments that the torture that has been in the news recently (which may be the same in his world as in ours) isn't even true torture and too much of a fuss has been made over it. What is your opinion on the harsher interrogation techniques that?American soldiers, and intelligence operatives have used in this century on prisoners at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, etc. — Are they torture? Are or were they morally justified? Would you like to see them outlawed?\n\nIn an interview with James Jordan, you said, \"I think that the gods of paganism were real.\"? Do you still believe that? What can you tell us about these beings? Do you believe they still exist and still interact with us? Do they appear in your fiction outside the Soldier series?\n\nJerry Friedman" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "________________________________\nFrom: Fred Kiesche \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 6:58 AM\nSubject: (urth) Gene Wolfe to Appear on Coode Street Podcast\n \n\nJonathan Strahan and Gary K. Wolfe will be having special guest Gene Wolfe on The Coode Street Podcast (to be recording this weekend). They have put out a call for questions. Post them here or e-mail me (GodelEscherBach at gmail.com) and I'll pass 'em on.\n\n\n-- \nF.P. Kiesche III? \"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The Lensman's Children (http://theeternalgoldenbraid.blogspot.com/).\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Fred Kiesche", "address": "godelescherbach at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-12-18T16:43:47+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Gene Wolfe to Appear on Coode Street Podcast", "in_reply_to": "<1355848813.98323.YahooMailNeo@web124501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Anything is worth forwarding; Jonathan Strahan may ask, or it may spark him\nto come up with some of his own.\n\nSo, everyone: Please keep sending!\n\nGenerally the podcast goes up on Sunday of the weekend. Here's the site:\n\nhttp://www.jonathanstrahan.com.au/wp/the-coode-street-podcast/\n\n...and I'll also post a message when I see it go up (assuming I'm home on\nSunday and not out volunteering for Hurricane Sandy relief)." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Jerry Friedman\nwrote:\n Is there any reason to think Wolfe would answer specific questions about\nthe stories, such as the ones Ryan Dunn suggested? I think he's said he\nwon't do that any more. Even if he won't, we might have fun discussing\nwhat questions we most want the answers to and seeing whether there's any\nagreement.\n\nAnyway, here are questions on his beliefs (mostly). The introductory\nparts about his stories can be shortened or removed.\n\nIn \"The Fifth Head of Cerberus\", the narrator is a clone--possibly a clone\nof you, some generations later--and many readers have understood his\nappalling character as suggesting that this unnatural method of\nreproduction would produce people cut off from the good side of humanity,\nmaybe even leading to the Beast of Revelation. In Pirate Freedom, the\nnarrator is the product of genetic engineering, possibly a clone, and\nthough he has a good side, he does some terrible things and calls himself a\n\"half-human monster\". Now perhaps human cloning is possible or will soon\nbe. What do you think of it? What would you tell somebody who was\nthinking of trying to get a clone made of himself or herself or of a dead\nfamily member?\n\nIn The Book of the New Sun, the narrator is a torturer who eventually\ndecides to end torture in his Commonwealth. In Pirate Freedom, the\nnarrator comments that the torture that has been in the news recently\n(which may be the same in his world as in ours) isn't even true torture and\ntoo much of a fuss has been made over it. What is your opinion on the\nharsher interrogation techniques that American soldiers, and intelligence\noperatives have used in this century on prisoners at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo\nBay, etc. Are they torture? Are or were they morally justified? Would\nyou like to see them outlawed?\n\nIn an interview with James Jordan, you said, \"I think that the gods of\npaganism were real.\" Do you still believe that? What can you tell us\nabout these beings? Do you believe they still exist and still interact\nwith us? Do they appear in your fiction outside the Soldier series?\n\nJerry Friedman\n\n\n *From:* Fred Kiesche " } ] }, { "message_id": "<1355854161.20425.YahooMailClassic@web160706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2012-12-18T18:09:21+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Gene Wolfe to Appear on Coode Street Podcast", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "How about a general question for him?\n\n- Do you feel that if America should fall from its global relevance as an affluent and influential nation that English would topple from its position as the second most spoken language in the world (assuming Australia does not rise to fill that power vacuum)?\nDo you think this could relegate figures like Shakespeare and modern authors working in English to less global importance and neglect in the global literary community, or do you think the digital age and instant communication have prevented linguistic drift by and large? \n\n\n\n\n\n--- On Tue, 12/18/12, Fred Kiesche wrote:\n\n\nFrom: Fred Kiesche \nSubject: Re: (urth) Gene Wolfe to Appear on Coode Street Podcast\nTo: \"Jerry Friedman\" , \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 8:43 AM\n\n\n\nAnything is worth forwarding; Jonathan Strahan may ask, or it may spark him to come up with some of his own.\n\nSo, everyone: Please keep sending!\n\nGenerally the podcast goes up on Sunday of the weekend. Here's the site:\n\nhttp://www.jonathanstrahan.com.au/wp/the-coode-street-podcast/\n\n...and I'll also post a message when I see it go up (assuming I'm home on Sunday and not out volunteering for Hurricane Sandy relief).\n\n\nOn Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Jerry Friedman wrote:\n\n\n\n\nIs there any reason to think Wolfe would answer specific questions about the stories, such as the ones Ryan Dunn suggested? I think he's said he won't do that any more. Even if he won't, we might have fun discussing what questions we most want the answers to and seeing whether there's any agreement.\n\nAnyway, here are questions on his beliefs (mostly). The introductory parts about his stories can be shortened or removed.\n\nIn \"The Fifth Head of Cerberus\", the narrator is a clone--possibly a clone of you, some generations later--and many readers have understood his appalling character as suggesting that this unnatural method of reproduction would produce people cut off from the good side of humanity, maybe even leading to the Beast of Revelation. In Pirate Freedom, the narrator is the product of genetic engineering, possibly a clone, and though he has a good side, he does some terrible things and calls himself a \"half-human monster\". Now perhaps human cloning is possible or will soon be. What do you think of it? What would you tell somebody who was thinking of trying to get a clone made of himself or herself or of a dead family member?\n\nIn The Book of the New Sun, the narrator is a torturer who eventually decides to end torture in his Commonwealth. In Pirate Freedom, the narrator comments that the torture that has been in the news recently (which may be the same in his world as in ours) isn't even true torture and too much of a fuss has been made over it. What is your opinion on the harsher interrogation techniques that?American soldiers, and intelligence operatives have used in this century on prisoners at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, etc. — Are they torture? Are or were they morally justified? Would you like to see them outlawed?\n\nIn an interview with James Jordan, you said, \"I think that the gods of paganism were real.\"? Do you still believe that? What can you tell us about these beings? Do you believe they still exist and still interact with us? Do they appear in your fiction outside the Soldier series?\n\nJerry Friedman\n\n\n\n\n\nFrom: Fred Kiesche \n\nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 6:58 AM\nSubject: (urth) Gene Wolfe to Appear on Coode Street Podcast\n\n\n\nJonathan Strahan and Gary K. Wolfe will be having special guest Gene Wolfe on The Coode Street Podcast (to be recording this weekend). They have put out a call for questions. Post them here or e-mail me (GodelEscherBach at gmail.com) and I'll pass 'em on." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "F.P. Kiesche III? \"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The Lensman's Children (http://theeternalgoldenbraid.blogspot.com/).\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-- \nF.P. Kiesche III? \"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The Lensman's Children (http://theeternalgoldenbraid.blogspot.com/).\n\n\n\n-----Inline Attachment Follows-----" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "aaron", "address": "aaronsingleton at gmail.com" }, "date": "2012-12-20T15:29:41+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Gene Wolfe to Appear on Coode Street Podcast", "in_reply_to": "<1355854161.20425.YahooMailClassic@web160706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I have a question about Father Inire. Do we meet Father Inire (aside from\nThecla's story about him) in the New Sun series, perhaps using a different\nname? Is he human? Congrats on the Grandmaster award. You deserve it the\nmost." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Marc Aramini wrote:\nHow about a general question for him?\n\n- Do you feel that if America should fall from its global relevance as an\naffluent and influential nation that English would topple from its position\nas the second most spoken language in the world (assuming Australia does\nnot rise to fill that power vacuum)?\nDo you think this could relegate figures like Shakespeare and modern\nauthors working in English to less global importance and neglect in the\nglobal literary community, or do you think the digital age and instant\ncommunication have prevented linguistic drift by and large?\n\n\n\n\n\n--- On *Tue, 12/18/12, Fred Kiesche * wrote:\n\n\nFrom: Fred Kiesche \nSubject: Re: (urth) Gene Wolfe to Appear on Coode Street Podcast\nTo: \"Jerry Friedman\" , \"The Urth Mailing List\" <\nurth at lists.urth.net>\nDate: Tuesday, December 18, 2012, 8:43 AM\n\n\n Anything is worth forwarding; Jonathan Strahan may ask, or it may spark\nhim to come up with some of his own.\n\nSo, everyone: Please keep sending!\n\nGenerally the podcast goes up on Sunday of the weekend. Here's the site:\n\nhttp://www.jonathanstrahan.com.au/wp/the-coode-street-podcast/\n\n...and I'll also post a message when I see it go up (assuming I'm home on\nSunday and not out volunteering for Hurricane Sandy relief).\n\nOn Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Jerry Friedman \nwrote:\n\n Is there any reason to think Wolfe would answer specific questions about\nthe stories, such as the ones Ryan Dunn suggested? I think he's said he\nwon't do that any more. Even if he won't, we might have fun discussing\nwhat questions we most want the answers to and seeing whether there's any\nagreement.\n\nAnyway, here are questions on his beliefs (mostly). The introductory\nparts about his stories can be shortened or removed.\n\nIn \"The Fifth Head of Cerberus\", the narrator is a clone--possibly a clone\nof you, some generations later--and many readers have understood his\nappalling character as suggesting that this unnatural method of\nreproduction would produce people cut off from the good side of humanity,\nmaybe even leading to the Beast of Revelation. In Pirate Freedom, the\nnarrator is the product of genetic engineering, possibly a clone, and\nthough he has a good side, he does some terrible things and calls himself a\n\"half-human monster\". Now perhaps human cloning is possible or will soon\nbe. What do you think of it? What would you tell somebody who was\nthinking of trying to get a clone made of himself or herself or of a dead\nfamily member?\n\nIn The Book of the New Sun, the narrator is a torturer who eventually\ndecides to end torture in his Commonwealth. In Pirate Freedom, the\nnarrator comments that the torture that has been in the news recently\n(which may be the same in his world as in ours) isn't even true torture and\ntoo much of a fuss has been made over it. What is your opinion on the\nharsher interrogation techniques that American soldiers, and intelligence\noperatives have used in this century on prisoners at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo\nBay, etc. Are they torture? Are or were they morally justified? Would\nyou like to see them outlawed?\n\nIn an interview with James Jordan, you said, \"I think that the gods of\npaganism were real.\" Do you still believe that? What can you tell us\nabout these beings? Do you believe they still exist and still interact\nwith us? Do they appear in your fiction outside the Soldier series?\n\nJerry Friedman\n\n\n *From:* Fred Kiesche >" } ] } ] }