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  "thread": {
    "id": 6342,
    "subject": "Gene Wolfe Covers",
    "messages": 5,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "2013-01-30T13:36:33+00:00",
    "last": "2013-01-30T16:13:53+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<CAM0v-i5aPEcH7vX5S4Rwsa6HjyUeeG8NiEVeErH4H+E4atAAfQ@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Antonin Scriabin",
        "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2013-01-30T13:36:33+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Gene Wolfe Covers",
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          "text": "Not sure if you guys saw this or if it has made the rounds already, but\nhere are some great (and not so great) foreign covers for TBONS:\n\nhttp://imgur.com/a/P5tDY\n\nThe Italian *The Claw of the Conciliator *is beautiful, imo."
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      "message_id": "<51092970.2070300@verizon.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David Stockhoff",
        "address": "dstockhoff at verizon.net"
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      "date": "2013-01-30T14:08:48+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Gene Wolfe Covers",
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          "text": "Exquisite. A couple look like standard S&S, but I especially like the \nscene in the mountains before little Severian is killed. I like Severian \nas a monk, although it's not quite right---too brown.\n\nThe Lake of Birds is great for suggesting the opposite of S&S---it looks \nalmost like a modern cover for a Victorian novel, and in a sense it may \nbe the truest to Wolfe's literary side.\n\nWho would be the woman with the sword?"
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          "text": "On 1/30/2013 8:36 AM, Antonin Scriabin wrote:\nNot sure if you guys saw this or if it has made the rounds already, \nbut here are some great (and not so great) foreign covers for TBONS:\n\nhttp://imgur.com/a/P5tDY\n\nThe Italian /The Claw of the Conciliator /is beautiful, imo.\n\n\n_______________________________________________"
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      "message_id": "<CAM0v-i4CR_FUaSa5rhAtNO5=PmWNFZDBfpcyn23+oLHwdeFjeg@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Antonin Scriabin",
        "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2013-01-30T14:13:42+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Gene Wolfe Covers",
      "in_reply_to": "<51092970.2070300@verizon.net>",
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          "text": "I was confused by the one with the sword-toting elf as well.  It look\nreally familiar (the artwork is very similar to that of the *Mistborn\n*series),\nand after some digging I found that the cover was just taken from this\nbook<http://www.amazon.com/Midwinter-Matthew-Sturges/dp/1591027349>.\nThis explains the disconnect between the cover and, well, virtually\neverything about *The Shadow of the Torturer*."
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          "text": "On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:08 AM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:\nExquisite. A couple look like standard S&S, but I especially like the\nscene in the mountains before little Severian is killed. I like Severian as\na monk, although it's not quite right---too brown.\n\nThe Lake of Birds is great for suggesting the opposite of S&S---it looks\nalmost like a modern cover for a Victorian novel, and in a sense it may be\nthe truest to Wolfe's literary side.\n\nWho would be the woman with the sword?\n\n\nOn 1/30/2013 8:36 AM, Antonin Scriabin wrote:"
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          "text": "Not sure if you guys saw this or if it has made the rounds already, but\nhere are some great (and not so great) foreign covers for TBONS:\n\nhttp://imgur.com/a/P5tDY\n\nThe Italian /The Claw of the Conciliator /is beautiful, imo.\n\n\n______________________________**_________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "DAVID STOCKHOFF",
        "address": "dstockhoff at verizon.net"
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      "date": "2013-01-30T14:56:11+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Gene Wolfe Covers",
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          "text": "Crimes upon crimes! I thought she looked a little elvish."
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          "text": "________________________________\nFrom: Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>\nTo: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> \nSent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:13 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) Gene Wolfe Covers\n\n\nI was confused by the one with the sword-toting elf as well. It look really familiar (the artwork is very similar to that of the Mistborn? series), and after some digging I found that the cover was just taken from this book. This explains the disconnect between the cover and, well, virtually everything about The Shadow of the Torturer. \n\n\n\n\nOn Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:08 AM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:\n\nExquisite. A couple look like standard S&S, but I especially like the scene in the mountains before little Severian is killed. I like Severian as a monk, although it's not quite right---too brown."
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          "text": "The Lake of Birds is great for suggesting the opposite of S&S---it looks almost like a modern cover for a Victorian novel, and in a sense it may be the truest to Wolfe's literary side.\n\nWho would be the woman with the sword?\n\n\nOn 1/30/2013 8:36 AM, Antonin Scriabin wrote:\n\nNot sure if you guys saw this or if it has made the rounds already, but here are some great (and not so great) foreign covers for TBONS:"
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          "text": "http://imgur.com/a/P5tDY"
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          "text": "The Italian /The Claw of the Conciliator /is beautiful, imo."
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      "from": {
        "name": "Stephen Hoy",
        "address": "stephenhoy at yahoo.com"
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      "date": "2013-01-30T16:13:53+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Gene Wolfe Covers",
      "in_reply_to": "<CAM0v-i5aPEcH7vX5S4Rwsa6HjyUeeG8NiEVeErH4H+E4atAAfQ@mail.gmail.com>",
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          "text": "just noticed Claw of the Conciliator translated into French as \"La Griffe du demi-dieu\"...at first glance, seems an intrusive choice by the translator. Why 'demi-dieu' over 'conciliateur'? ?I suppose the former may have the merit of invoking demi-gods like Hercules, but I think it skirts the idea of a redemptive intermediary that conciliator bears with it.\n\n\n \n\nNot sure if you guys saw this or if it has made the rounds already, but here are some great (and not so great) foreign covers for TBONS:\n\nhttp://imgur.com/a/P5tDY\n\nThe Italian The Claw of the Conciliator is beautiful, imo."
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