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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 6346, "subject": "Shadows of the New Sun Tribute Anthology", "messages": 6, "voices": 5, "first": "2013-03-02T14:05:30+00:00", "last": "2013-03-02T22:37:59+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<1362233130.84804.YahooMailClassic@web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2013-03-02T14:05:30+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Shadows of the New Sun Tribute Anthology", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I was in the enviable position of seeing an advance copy of the upcoming Wolfe Tribute Anthology, Shadows of the New Sun: Stories in Honor of Gene Wolfe, edited by J.E. Mooney and Bill Fawcett. It will be coming out August 27th. \n\nThe table of contents is as follows, with a one or two small comments about probable source material, if applicable:\n\nWolfe: Frostfree - somewhere between a comedic piece and something more depressing\n\nNeil Gaiman: A Lunar Labyrinth -?Gaiman's story is clearly inspired by A Solar Labyrinth\n\nJoe Haldeman: The Island of the Death Doctor - a slightly metafictional story narrated by Chris from Pirate Freedom\n\nTimothy Zahn: A Touch of Rosemary - I can't place an exact story as inspiration, but certainly we all know a real life reason why Wolfe adopted his male animal-female vegatable naming schemes in Long/Short Sun\n\nSteven Savile: Ashes - This poignant, emotional story seems to channel Bradbury a lot, too, but we all know Wolfe loves Proust's In Search of Lost Time\n\nDavid Drake: Bedding - a companion story to Gene's \"Straw\"\n\nNancy Kress: ... And Other Stories - a 1st?person narrative with some classic books and?\"The Island of Doctor?Death and Other Stories\"\n\nJack Dann: The Island of Time - also inspired by \"The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories\", with Barsoom?as the imaginative?2nd person catalyst instead of Dr. Moreau \n\nMichael Swanwick: The She-Wolf's Hidden Grin - an inversion of?\"The?Fifth Head of Cerberus\" - I wish he had done all 3 parts of the novel, this one alone is worth the price of admission?\n\nMichael Stackpole: Snowchild - perhaps this story stems from Tracking Song?\n\nMike Resnick and Barry Malzberg: Tourist Trap - a wonderful companion piece to \"The Marvelous Brass Chessplaying Automaton\"?\n\nAaron Allston: Epistoleros - the longest story in the collection, perhaps form and theme are more applicable to Wolfe than any single work as inspiration, though its epistolary structure is seen in The Sorcerer's House and Trip, Trap (and I guess The Wizard Knight, huh?).\n\nTodd McCaffery: Rhubarb and Beets - this is a Fairie story, much as The Wizard Knight was\n\nJudi Rohrig: Tunes from Limbo, But I Digress - a very fine 1st person story set in the world of \"Home Fires\"\n\nWilliam C Dietz: In the Shadow of the Gate - we all know where this fits in the Wolfe oeuvre. A 3rd person epilogue to Shadow of the Torturer - lots of Hethor, for fans of that character (I know?I am)\n\nMarc Aramini: Soldier of Mercy - I'm just lucky to be in here with these guys!!!!!!!! Latro\n\nJody Lynn Nye: The Dreams of the Sea - ?a 1st person coda to Urth of the New Sun, featuring a female from the Witch's Tower\n\nDavid Brin: The Logs - an SF tale with some engineered animals, in some ways about totalitarian attitudes and perseverance\n\nWolfe: The Sea of Memory - a good way to end the anthology\n\n\nMichael Swanwick did a particularly outstanding job, and my personal favorites were?Nancy Kress', Neil Gaiman's, Steven Savile's, and Judi Rohrig's stories. Nye and Dietz did an excellent job tackling the ambience and strangeness of New Sun.\n\nAbsent were Silk and Able, but Severian is represented. I think Forlesen or Seven American Nights would have made for some excellent stories, too. \n\nPS: I am going to continue my short story survey of Wolfe soon - my free time is mostly in the summer to devote the attention and resources it requires to do Wolfe justice" } ] }, { "message_id": "<513207BE.5070603@verizon.net>", "from": { "name": "David Stockhoff", "address": "dstockhoff at verizon.net" }, "date": "2013-03-02T14:07:58+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Shadows of the New Sun Tribute Anthology", "in_reply_to": "<1362233130.84804.YahooMailClassic@web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Awesome! Congrats on your own story." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 3/2/2013 9:05 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:\nI was in the enviable position of seeing an advance copy of the \nupcoming Wolfe Tribute Anthology, Shadows of the New Sun: Stories in \nHonor of Gene Wolfe, edited by J.E. Mooney and Bill Fawcett. It will \nbe coming out August 27th.\nThe table of contents is as follows, with a one or two small comments \nabout probable source material, if applicable:\nWolfe: Frostfree - somewhere between a comedic piece and something \nmore depressing\nNeil Gaiman: A Lunar Labyrinth - Gaiman's story is clearly inspired by \nA Solar Labyrinth\nJoe Haldeman: The Island of the Death Doctor - a slightly \nmetafictional story narrated by Chris from Pirate Freedom\nTimothy Zahn: A Touch of Rosemary - I can't place an exact story as \ninspiration, but certainly we all know a real life reason why Wolfe \nadopted his male animal-female vegatable naming schemes in Long/Short Sun\nSteven Savile: Ashes - This poignant, emotional story seems to channel \nBradbury a lot, too, but we all know Wolfe loves Proust's In Search of \nLost Time\nDavid Drake: Bedding - a companion story to Gene's \"Straw\"\nNancy Kress: ... And Other Stories - a 1st person narrative with some \nclassic books and \"The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories\"\nJack Dann: The Island of Time - also inspired by \"The Island of Doctor \nDeath and Other Stories\", with Barsoom as the imaginative 2nd person \ncatalyst instead of Dr. Moreau\nMichael Swanwick: The She-Wolf's Hidden Grin - an inversion \nof \"The Fifth Head of Cerberus\" - I wish he had done all 3 parts of \nthe novel, this one alone is worth the price of admission\nMichael Stackpole: Snowchild - perhaps this story stems from Tracking \nSong\nMike Resnick and Barry Malzberg: Tourist Trap - a wonderful companion \npiece to \"The Marvelous Brass Chessplaying Automaton\"\nAaron Allston: Epistoleros - the longest story in the collection, \nperhaps form and theme are more applicable to Wolfe than any single \nwork as inspiration, though its epistolary structure is seen in The \nSorcerer's House and Trip, Trap (and I guess The Wizard Knight, huh?).\nTodd McCaffery: Rhubarb and Beets - this is a Fairie story, much as \nThe Wizard Knight was\nJudi Rohrig: Tunes from Limbo, But I Digress - a very fine 1st person \nstory set in the world of \"Home Fires\"\nWilliam C Dietz: In the Shadow of the Gate - we all know where this \nfits in the Wolfe oeuvre. A 3rd person epilogue to Shadow of the \nTorturer - lots of Hethor, for fans of that character (I know I am)\nMarc Aramini: Soldier of Mercy - I'm just lucky to be in here with \nthese guys!!!!!!!! Latro\nJody Lynn Nye: The Dreams of the Sea - a 1st person coda to Urth of \nthe New Sun, featuring a female from the Witch's Tower\nDavid Brin: The Logs - an SF tale with some engineered animals, in \nsome ways about totalitarian attitudes and perseverance\nWolfe: The Sea of Memory - a good way to end the anthology\nMichael Swanwick did a particularly outstanding job, and my personal \nfavorites were Nancy Kress', Neil Gaiman's, Steven Savile's, and Judi \nRohrig's stories. Nye and Dietz did an excellent job tackling the \nambience and strangeness of New Sun.\nAbsent were Silk and Able, but Severian is represented. I think \nForlesen or Seven American Nights would have made for some excellent \nstories, too.\nPS: I am going to continue my short story survey of Wolfe soon - my \nfree time is mostly in the summer to devote the attention and \nresources it requires to do Wolfe justice\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Antonin Scriabin", "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-03-02T14:19:15+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Shadows of the New Sun Tribute Anthology", "in_reply_to": "<513207BE.5070603@verizon.net>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Thanks for the contents! Can't wait :-)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mar 2, 2013 9:08 AM, \"David Stockhoff\" wrote:\nAwesome! Congrats on your own story.\n\n\nOn 3/2/2013 9:05 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I was in the enviable position of seeing an advance copy of the upcoming\nWolfe Tribute Anthology, Shadows of the New Sun: Stories in Honor of Gene\nWolfe, edited by J.E. Mooney and Bill Fawcett. It will be coming out\nAugust 27th.\nThe table of contents is as follows, with a one or two small comments\nabout probable source material, if applicable:\nWolfe: Frostfree - somewhere between a comedic piece and something more\ndepressing\nNeil Gaiman: A Lunar Labyrinth - Gaiman's story is clearly inspired by A\nSolar Labyrinth\nJoe Haldeman: The Island of the Death Doctor - a slightly metafictional\nstory narrated by Chris from Pirate Freedom\nTimothy Zahn: A Touch of Rosemary - I can't place an exact story as\ninspiration, but certainly we all know a real life reason why Wolfe adopted\nhis male animal-female vegatable naming schemes in Long/Short Sun\nSteven Savile: Ashes - This poignant, emotional story seems to channel\nBradbury a lot, too, but we all know Wolfe loves Proust's In Search of Lost\nTime\nDavid Drake: Bedding - a companion story to Gene's \"Straw\"\nNancy Kress: ... And Other Stories - a 1st person narrative with some\nclassic books and \"The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories\"\nJack Dann: The Island of Time - also inspired by \"The Island of Doctor\nDeath and Other Stories\", with Barsoom as the imaginative 2nd person\ncatalyst instead of Dr. Moreau\nMichael Swanwick: The She-Wolf's Hidden Grin - an inversion of \"The Fifth\nHead of Cerberus\" - I wish he had done all 3 parts of the novel, this one\nalone is worth the price of admission\nMichael Stackpole: Snowchild - perhaps this story stems from Tracking Song\nMike Resnick and Barry Malzberg: Tourist Trap - a wonderful companion\npiece to \"The Marvelous Brass Chessplaying Automaton\"\nAaron Allston: Epistoleros - the longest story in the collection, perhaps\nform and theme are more applicable to Wolfe than any single work as\ninspiration, though its epistolary structure is seen in The Sorcerer's\nHouse and Trip, Trap (and I guess The Wizard Knight, huh?).\nTodd McCaffery: Rhubarb and Beets - this is a Fairie story, much as The\nWizard Knight was\nJudi Rohrig: Tunes from Limbo, But I Digress - a very fine 1st person\nstory set in the world of \"Home Fires\"\nWilliam C Dietz: In the Shadow of the Gate - we all know where this fits\nin the Wolfe oeuvre. A 3rd person epilogue to Shadow of the Torturer -\nlots of Hethor, for fans of that character (I know I am)\nMarc Aramini: Soldier of Mercy - I'm just lucky to be in here with these\nguys!!!!!!!! Latro\nJody Lynn Nye: The Dreams of the Sea - a 1st person coda to Urth of the\nNew Sun, featuring a female from the Witch's Tower\nDavid Brin: The Logs - an SF tale with some engineered animals, in some\nways about totalitarian attitudes and perseverance\nWolfe: The Sea of Memory - a good way to end the anthology\nMichael Swanwick did a particularly outstanding job, and my personal\nfavorites were Nancy Kress', Neil Gaiman's, Steven Savile's, and Judi\nRohrig's stories. Nye and Dietz did an excellent job tackling the ambience\nand strangeness of New Sun.\nAbsent were Silk and Able, but Severian is represented. I think Forlesen\nor Seven American Nights would have made for some excellent stories, too.\nPS: I am going to continue my short story survey of Wolfe soon - my free\ntime is mostly in the summer to devote the attention and resources it\nrequires to do Wolfe justice\n\n\n\n______________________________**_________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<1362237004.87527.YahooMailClassic@web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2013-03-02T15:10:04+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Shadows of the New Sun Tribute Anthology", "in_reply_to": "<513207BE.5070603@verizon.net>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Thanks, David and Antonin. Two of the most memorable recent anthologies like this were Vance's Songs of the Dying Earth and Bradbury's Shadow Show, both well worth the investment. The issue with the Vance one was homogeneity - they were all Dying Earth stories, and many of them attempted to emulate his style, as well, some more successfully than others. The Bradbury one seemed thematic, and worked amazingly well, in my opinion. \n\nIt was interesting to see who attempted a Wolfean style and who elected to write with less narrative elisions. Savile's story, for example, would have blended perfectly and seamlessly into the Bradbury anthology. \n\nCan't wait to read a review from a nonbiased party.\n\n--- On Sat, 3/2/13, David Stockhoff wrote:\n\n\nFrom: David Stockhoff \nSubject: Re: (urth) Shadows of the New Sun Tribute Anthology" } ] }, { "message_id": "<1362251636.30951.YahooMailNeo@web84506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Stephen Hoy", "address": "stephenhoy at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2013-03-02T19:13:56+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Shadows of the New Sun Tribute Anthology", "in_reply_to": "<1362237004.87527.YahooMailClassic@web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Earlier this week, Michael Swanwick posted the opening paragraphs of his contribution.\n\nhttp://floggingbabel.blogspot.com/2013/02/acolytes-of-wolfe.html\n\n\nMarc, can there ever be a nonbiased party? I think the best reviewer (critic?) is a well-informed, independent reader whose point-of-view is transparent, like the contributors to this list. I've particularly enjoyed reading your chronological critiques of Wolfe's short fiction for the very reason that you are an informed reader of Wolfe.\n\n \n\nThanks, David and Antonin. Two of the most memorable recent anthologies like this were Vance's Songs of the Dying Earth and Bradbury's Shadow Show, both well worth the investment. The issue with the Vance one was homogeneity - they were all Dying Earth stories, and many of them attempted to emulate his style, as well, some more successfully than others. The Bradbury one seemed thematic, and worked amazingly well, in my opinion. \n\nIt was interesting to see who attempted a Wolfean style and who elected to write with less narrative elisions. Savile's story, for example, would have blended perfectly and seamlessly into the Bradbury anthology. \n\nCan't wait to read a review from a nonbiased party." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "--- On Sat, 3/2/13, David Stockhoff wrote:\nFrom: David Stockhoff \nSubject: Re: (urth) Shadows of the New Sun Tribute Anthology\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Saturday, March 2, 2013, 6:07 AM\n\n\nAwesome! Congrats on your own story." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "entonio at gmail.com", "address": "entonio at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-03-02T22:37:59+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Shadows of the New Sun Tribute Anthology", "in_reply_to": "<1362251636.30951.YahooMailNeo@web84506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I'll be sure to get this the first opportunity I get (even though I'm not usually fond of volumes of short Stories by divers authors, everything has its exceptions). Thank you for sharing and congratulations!\n\nAnt?nio" } ] } ] }