For Your Amusement: On Twitter Today...

The Urth list — 14 messages, 7 voices, 30 Apr 2013
https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/6374

Fred Kiesche30 Apr 2013, 15:53
...author Felix Gilman tweeted the following: *Felix Gilman @felixgilman *11m<https://twitter.com/felixgilman/status/329259107192283136> #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23QuestionsObamaWontAnswer&src=hash>what is the relationship between Severian and Apu-Punchau in the Book of the New Sun, and what does it symbolize *Felix Gilman @felixgilman *7m<https://twitter.com/felixgilman/status/329260106107731971> #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23QuestionsObamaWontAnswer&src=hash>do the events of Short Sun occur eons after New Sun, Blue/Green being reborn Urth/Lune, or is this a mere echo *Felix Gilman @felixgilman *3m<https://twitter.com/felixgilman/status/329261302503579648> #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23QuestionsObamaWontAnswer&src=hash>in the rag shop, why does Severian say that the ribbons that held Agilus' mask are still there after he removes it
F.P. Kiesche III "Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The Lensman's Children ( http://theeternalgoldenbraid.blogspot.com/).
Fred Kiesche30 Apr 2013, 16:06

↳ in reply to Fred Kiesche

And more! *Felix Gilman @felixgilman *6m<https://twitter.com/felixgilman/status/329263534120779776> #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23QuestionsObamaWontAnswer&src=hash>in what ways is Severian analogous to Christ and in what ways is he disanalogous. also, what about benghazi, huh *Max Gladstone @maxgladstone *3m<https://twitter.com/maxgladstone/status/329264568461299713> @felixgilman <https://twitter.com/felixgilman> Obama won't answer the one about Apu Punachu because it's answered in Urth of the New Sun. *Felix Gilman @felixgilman *2m<https://twitter.com/felixgilman/status/329264850704412672> @maxgladstone <https://twitter.com/maxgladstone> i think we as a people have a right to know if the President has read Urth of the New Sun, and if so how attentively
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Fred Kiesche <godelescherbach at gmail.com>wrote: ...author Felix Gilman tweeted the following: *Felix Gilman @felixgilman *11m<https://twitter.com/felixgilman/status/329259107192283136> #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23QuestionsObamaWontAnswer&src=hash>what is the relationship between Severian and Apu-Punchau in the Book of the New Sun, and what does it symbolize *Felix Gilman @felixgilman *7m<https://twitter.com/felixgilman/status/329260106107731971> #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23QuestionsObamaWontAnswer&src=hash>do the events of Short Sun occur eons after New Sun, Blue/Green being reborn Urth/Lune, or is this a mere echo *Felix Gilman @felixgilman *3m<https://twitter.com/felixgilman/status/329261302503579648> #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23QuestionsObamaWontAnswer&src=hash>in the rag shop, why does Severian say that the ribbons that held Agilus' mask are still there after he removes it -- F.P. Kiesche III "Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The Lensman's Children ( http://theeternalgoldenbraid.blogspot.com/). _______________________________________________
Marc Aramini30 Apr 2013, 16:32

↳ in reply to Fred Kiesche

I will answer those questions if elected, but I will not eat his brains. Even with analept of alzabo. Sent from my iPhone
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On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Fred Kiesche <godelescherbach at gmail.com> wrote: And more! Felix Gilman @felixgilman 6m #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer in what ways is Severian analogous to Christ and in what ways is he disanalogous. also, what about benghazi, huh Max Gladstone @maxgladstone 3m @felixgilman Obama won't answer the one about Apu Punachu because it's answered in Urth of the New Sun. Felix Gilman @felixgilman 2m @maxgladstone i think we as a people have a right to know if the President has read Urth of the New Sun, and if so how attentively On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Fred Kiesche <godelescherbach at gmail.com> wrote:
...author Felix Gilman tweeted the following: Felix Gilman @felixgilman 11m #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer what is the relationship between Severian and Apu-Punchau in the Book of the New Sun, and what does it symbolize Felix Gilman @felixgilman 7m #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer do the events of Short Sun occur eons after New Sun, Blue/Green being reborn Urth/Lune, or is this a mere echo Felix Gilman @felixgilman 3m #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer in the rag shop, why does Severian say that the ribbons that held Agilus' mask are still there after he removes it -- F.P. Kiesche III "Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The Lensman's Children (http://theeternalgoldenbraid.blogspot.com/). _______________________________________________
Marc Aramini30 Apr 2013, 16:34

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The proper answer to all questions is yes, no,no, yes, no, yes, no. Maybe. Sent from my iPhone
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On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote: I will answer those questions if elected, but I will not eat his brains. Even with analept of alzabo. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Fred Kiesche <godelescherbach at gmail.com> wrote:
And more! Felix Gilman @felixgilman 6m #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer in what ways is Severian analogous to Christ and in what ways is he disanalogous. also, what about benghazi, huh Max Gladstone @maxgladstone 3m @felixgilman Obama won't answer the one about Apu Punachu because it's answered in Urth of the New Sun. Felix Gilman @felixgilman 2m @maxgladstone i think we as a people have a right to know if the President has read Urth of the New Sun, and if so how attentively On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Fred Kiesche <godelescherbach at gmail.com> wrote:
...author Felix Gilman tweeted the following: Felix Gilman @felixgilman 11m #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer what is the relationship between Severian and Apu-Punchau in the Book of the New Sun, and what does it symbolize Felix Gilman @felixgilman 7m #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer do the events of Short Sun occur eons after New Sun, Blue/Green being reborn Urth/Lune, or is this a mere echo Felix Gilman @felixgilman 3m #QuestionsObamaWontAnswer in the rag shop, why does Severian say that the ribbons that held Agilus' mask are still there after he removes it -- F.P. Kiesche III "Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The Lensman's Children (http://theeternalgoldenbraid.blogspot.com/). _______________________________________________
Gwern Branwen30 Apr 2013, 16:46

↳ in reply to Marc Aramini

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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote: I will answer those questions if elected, but I will not eat his brains. Even with analept of alzabo.
How sure are we that Obama was born on Urth? Where is his birth certificate proving he was native-born in Ascia as required by the Constitution? Perhaps he's really from the Commonwealth, or worse, an illegal alien - a cacogen!
gwern http://www.gwern.net
Allan Anderson30 Apr 2013, 16:53

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On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:
I will answer those questions if elected, but I will not eat his brains. Even with analept of alzabo.
How sure are we that Obama was born on Urth? Where is his birth certificate proving he was native-born in Ascia as required by the Constitution? Perhaps he's really from the Commonwealth, or worse, an illegal alien - a cacogen!
I have clear evidence that he's not from Sainte Croix at all, but originates from Sainte Anne. Just look at his reliance on teleprompters!
DAVID STOCKHOFF30 Apr 2013, 19:24

↳ in reply to Gwern Branwen

More important, WHAT IS BEHIND THAT MASK?
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________________________________ From: Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: (urth) For Your Amusement: On Twitter Today... On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:
I will answer those questions if elected, but I will not eat his brains. Even with analept of alzabo.
How sure are we that Obama was born on Urth? Where is his birth certificate proving he was native-born in Ascia as required by the Constitution? Perhaps he's really from the Commonwealth, or worse, an illegal alien - a cacogen! -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________
António Pedro Marques30 Apr 2013, 22:35

↳ in reply to DAVID STOCKHOFF

Another mask... DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote (30-04-2013 20:24):
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More important, WHAT IS BEHIND THAT MASK? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: (urth) For Your Amusement: On Twitter Today... On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com <mailto:marcaramini at yahoo.com>> wrote: > I will answer those questions if elected, but I will not eat his brains. > Even with analept of alzabo. How sure are we that Obama was born on Urth? Where is his birth certificate proving he was native-born in Ascia as required by the Constitution? Perhaps he's really from the Commonwealth, or worse, an illegal alien - a cacogen! -- gwern http://www.gwern.net <http://www.gwern.net/> _______________________________________________
aaron01 May 2013, 00:25

↳ in reply to António Pedro Marques

I have always wondered about the ribbons above Agilus' ears, though. And Borski's explanation doesn't satisfy.
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>wrote: Another mask... DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote (30-04-2013 20:24):
More important, WHAT IS BEHIND THAT MASK? ------------------------------**------------------------------** ---------------- From: Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: (urth) For Your Amusement: On Twitter Today... On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com <mailto:marcaramini at yahoo.com>**> wrote: > I will answer those questions if elected, but I will not eat his brains. > Even with analept of alzabo. How sure are we that Obama was born on Urth? Where is his birth certificate proving he was native-born in Ascia as required by the Constitution? Perhaps he's really from the Commonwealth, or worse, an illegal alien - a cacogen! -- gwern http://www.gwern.net <http://www.gwern.net/> ______________________________**_________________
Marc Aramini01 May 2013, 00:31

↳ in reply to aaron

Borski is hit and miss- imaginative but often way too tenuous and nontextual in his leaps. Believe it or not I wait for the text to at least legitimately hint at something before I pursue it. Sent from my iPhone
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On Apr 30, 2013, at 5:25 PM, aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com> wrote: I have always wondered about the ribbons above Agilus' ears, though. And Borski's explanation doesn't satisfy. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com> wrote:
Another mask... DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote (30-04-2013 20:24):
More important, WHAT IS BEHIND THAT MASK? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: (urth) For Your Amusement: On Twitter Today... On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com <mailto:marcaramini at yahoo.com>> wrote: > I will answer those questions if elected, but I will not eat his brains. > Even with analept of alzabo. How sure are we that Obama was born on Urth? Where is his birth certificate proving he was native-born in Ascia as required by the Constitution? Perhaps he's really from the Commonwealth, or worse, an illegal alien - a cacogen! -- gwern http://www.gwern.net <http://www.gwern.net/> _______________________________________________
aaron01 May 2013, 04:54

↳ in reply to Marc Aramini

I agree about Borski. However, when reading his work, I do get excited about re-reading Wolfe so I can make some new discovery. I also enjoyed some of his observations on T5HoC and Peace. Alas... BTW, congrats on the Wolfe antho. Long-time lurker on the list, so I am familiar with most of the regulars.
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote: Borski is hit and miss- imaginative but often way too tenuous and nontextual in his leaps. Believe it or not I wait for the text to at least legitimately hint at something before I pursue it. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2013, at 5:25 PM, aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com> wrote: I have always wondered about the ribbons above Agilus' ears, though. And Borski's explanation doesn't satisfy. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>wrote:
Another mask... DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote (30-04-2013 20:24):
More important, WHAT IS BEHIND THAT MASK? ------------------------------**------------------------------** ---------------- From: Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: (urth) For Your Amusement: On Twitter Today... On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Marc Aramini < marcaramini at yahoo.com <mailto:marcaramini at yahoo.com>**> wrote: > I will answer those questions if elected, but I will not eat his brains. > Even with analept of alzabo. How sure are we that Obama was born on Urth? Where is his birth certificate proving he was native-born in Ascia as required by the Constitution? Perhaps he's really from the Commonwealth, or worse, an illegal alien - a cacogen! -- gwern http://www.gwern.net <http://www.gwern.net/> ______________________________**_________________
Marc Aramini01 May 2013, 13:03

↳ in reply to aaron

Definitely, his work on Fifth Head is top notch. I am trying to remember if he did much with all the crazy colors associated with names in Peace ( blue ribbon around a little coffin, etc) since the characters seemed to be overwhelmingly associated with colors- peacock blue, olive, black, porter is specifically a darker brown beer (which color is bold? Yellow?)- but the ubiquity of color might make it a symbolist's nightmare in the small stories. Thank you, by the way, for the congratulations. If not worthy, I hope at least that you will enjoy it a bit. Sent from my iPhone
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On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:54 PM, aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com> wrote: agree about Borski. However, when reading his work, I do get excited about re-reading Wolfe so I can make some new discovery. I also enjoyed some of his observations on T5HoC and Peace. Alas... BTW, congrats on the Wolfe antho. Long-time lurker on the list, so I am familiar with most of the regulars.
DAVID STOCKHOFF01 May 2013, 14:14

↳ in reply to Allan Anderson

Has anyone ever seen him tie a knot or operate machinery?
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________________________________ From: Allan Anderson <rubel at goosemoon.org> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:53 PM Subject: Re: (urth) For Your Amusement: On Twitter Today... On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:
I will answer those questions if elected, but I will not eat his brains. Even with analept of alzabo.
How sure are we that Obama was born on Urth? Where is his birth certificate proving he was native-born in Ascia as required by the Constitution? Perhaps he's really from the Commonwealth, or worse, an illegal alien - a cacogen!
I have clear evidence that he's not from Sainte Croix at all, but originates from Sainte Anne. Just look at his reliance on teleprompters! _______________________________________________
aaron01 May 2013, 16:23

↳ in reply to Marc Aramini

Well, you deserve a congrats, I think. I look forward to reading your contribution. As far as Borski discussing Peace, he did talk about the colors, but in reference to alchemy. A very creative view, IMO.
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On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote: Definitely, his work on Fifth Head is top notch. I am trying to remember if he did much with all the crazy colors associated with names in Peace ( blue ribbon around a little coffin, etc) since the characters seemed to be overwhelmingly associated with colors- peacock blue, olive, black, porter is specifically a darker brown beer (which color is bold? Yellow?)- but the ubiquity of color might make it a symbolist's nightmare in the small stories. Thank you, by the way, for the congratulations. If not worthy, I hope at least that you will enjoy it a bit. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:54 PM, aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com> wrote:
agree about Borski. However, when reading his work, I do get excited about re-reading Wolfe so I can make some new discovery. I also enjoyed some of his observations on T5HoC and Peace. Alas... BTW, congrats on the Wolfe antho. Long-time lurker on the list, so I am familiar with most of the regulars.
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