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    "id": 6381,
    "subject": "Wolfe-inspired short story collection",
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    "first": "2013-05-14T02:07:09+00:00",
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      "from": {
        "name": "Stephen Case",
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      "date": "2013-05-14T02:07:09+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Wolfe-inspired short story collection",
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          "text": "Please pardon this rather self-serving note to the list and feel free to\nignore if uninterested. I've recently published a collection of short\nstories, TREES AND OTHER WONDERS, that is now available on the Kindle\nStore:\nhttp://www.amazon.com/Trees-Other-Wonders-Collected-ebook/dp/B00CPS3C3C/"
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          "text": "From the description: \"for fans of the likes of Neil Gaiman, Gene Wolfe, R."
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          "text": "A. Lafferty, and Jorge Luis Borges,\" which is why I trouble you with it at\nall.\n\nWolfe has long been a primary inspiration for my own writing. We have\ncorresponded for a number of years, and he has given me very helpful\nfeedback on some of my own stories. This collection includes ten\npreviously-published works (first appearing in a number of pro and semi-pro\nzines) as well as two appearing here for the first time. I'm certainly very\nfar from being anywhere near Gene's league, but I hope that fans of Wolfe\nmight find glimmers of that sense of wonder he does so well in my own work.\n\nPlus, I'd be very interested to hear what you think-- because fans of Wolfe\nare the sort of readers I'm looking for.\n\n-Steve"
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          "text": "Stephen Case\nGraduate Student, Program for the History and Philosophy of Science\nUniversity of Notre Dame\nwww.stephenrcase.com\n815.295.4720"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Daniel Otto Jack Petersen",
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      "date": "2013-05-14T21:32:23+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Wolfe-inspired short story collection",
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          "text": "Thanks for this, Steve!  I'm an aspiring writer of fiction myself and\ninfluenced by Wolfe and Lafferty - so you're not alone.  I hope I can share\nmy own book with the list some day (with similar apologies and\nqualifications).\n\nObviously Marc Aramini that frequently posts here is a Wolfe-influenced\nwriter of fiction, as he has a story in the upcoming Wolfe-inspired volume\nof fiction (his name in the same table of contents as the master himself,\nthe lucky dog).\n\nAny others?\n\n-DOJP"
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          "text": "On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Stephen Case <scase1 at nd.edu> wrote:\nPlease pardon this rather self-serving note to the list and feel free to\nignore if uninterested. I've recently published a collection of short\nstories, TREES AND OTHER WONDERS, that is now available on the Kindle\nStore:\nhttp://www.amazon.com/Trees-Other-Wonders-Collected-ebook/dp/B00CPS3C3C/\n\nFrom the description: \"for fans of the likes of Neil Gaiman, Gene Wolfe,\nR. A. Lafferty, and Jorge Luis Borges,\" which is why I trouble you with it\nat all.\n\nWolfe has long been a primary inspiration for my own writing. We have\ncorresponded for a number of years, and he has given me very helpful\nfeedback on some of my own stories. This collection includes ten\npreviously-published works (first appearing in a number of pro and semi-pro\nzines) as well as two appearing here for the first time. I'm certainly very\nfar from being anywhere near Gene's league, but I hope that fans of Wolfe\nmight find glimmers of that sense of wonder he does so well in my own work.\n\nPlus, I'd be very interested to hear what you think-- because fans of\nWolfe are the sort of readers I'm looking for.\n\n-Steve\n\n--\nStephen Case\nGraduate Student, Program for the History and Philosophy of Science\nUniversity of Notre Dame\nwww.stephenrcase.com\n815.295.4720\n\n_______________________________________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Marc Aramini",
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      "date": "2013-05-15T00:33:11+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Wolfe-inspired short story collection",
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          "text": "Some old posters were published authors, but haven't seen them in a while.  Michael andre-Driussi, yves meynard, patrick o leary, Borski- (some of his criticism might be wild enough to classify, too; though I admire a few of his more sound textual observations).  Trying to think of more, sure I am missing some. Not sure if Alice Turner wrote fiction or was solely an influential editor...\n\nYes, I am lucky.  Alas, the vast majority of my writing is sealed in a desk where it will probably remain forever. \n\nLots of Notre Dame posters - Craig as well.  Do you know professor Buttigieg there, Steve?  My favorite professor, though I was a biochem major back then and I haven't seen him since like 1999. \n\nIn any case I will check out the collection. \n\nSent from my iPhone"
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          "text": "On May 14, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:\nThanks for this, Steve!  I'm an aspiring writer of fiction myself and influenced by Wolfe and Lafferty - so you're not alone.  I hope I can share my own book with the list some day (with similar apologies and qualifications).  \n\nObviously Marc Aramini that frequently posts here is a Wolfe-influenced writer of fiction, as he has a story in the upcoming Wolfe-inspired volume of fiction (his name in the same table of contents as the master himself, the lucky dog).\n\nAny others?\n\n-DOJP\n\n\nOn Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Stephen Case <scase1 at nd.edu> wrote:"
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          "text": "Please pardon this rather self-serving note to the list and feel free to ignore if uninterested. I've recently published a collection of short stories, TREES AND OTHER WONDERS, that is now available on the Kindle Store: http://www.amazon.com/Trees-Other-Wonders-Collected-ebook/dp/B00CPS3C3C/ \n\nFrom the description: \"for fans of the likes of Neil Gaiman, Gene Wolfe, R. A. Lafferty, and Jorge Luis Borges,\" which is why I trouble you with it at all.\n\nWolfe has long been a primary inspiration for my own writing. We have corresponded for a number of years, and he has given me very helpful feedback on some of my own stories. This collection includes ten previously-published works (first appearing in a number of pro and semi-pro zines) as well as two appearing here for the first time. I'm certainly very far from being anywhere near Gene's league, but I hope that fans of Wolfe might find glimmers of that sense of wonder he does so well in my own work.\n\nPlus, I'd be very interested to hear what you think-- because fans of Wolfe are the sort of readers I'm looking for.\n\n-Steve\n\n-- \nStephen Case\nGraduate Student, Program for the History and Philosophy of Science\nUniversity of Notre Dame\nwww.stephenrcase.com\n815.295.4720\n\n_______________________________________________"
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        "name": "António Pedro Marques",
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      "date": "2013-05-15T02:58:06+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Wolfe-inspired short story collection",
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          "text": "You'll post us a link when it does come out, right, March?"
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        "name": "Daniel Otto Jack Petersen",
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      "date": "2013-05-15T08:37:03+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Wolfe-inspired short story collection",
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          "text": "Oh, I didn't know O'Leary had posted here.  I thought I also heard that\nNeil Gaiman was posting here back in the 90s, discussing Long Sun or\nsomething....\n\n-DOJP"
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          "text": "On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:\nSome old posters were published authors, but haven't seen them in a while.\n Michael andre-Driussi, yves meynard, patrick o leary, Borski- (some of his\ncriticism might be wild enough to classify, too; though I admire a few of\nhis more sound textual observations).  Trying to think of more, sure I am\nmissing some. Not sure if Alice Turner wrote fiction or was solely an\ninfluential editor...\n\nYes, I am lucky.  Alas, the vast majority of my writing is sealed in a\ndesk where it will probably remain forever.\n\nLots of Notre Dame posters - Craig as well.  Do you know professor\nButtigieg there, Steve?  My favorite professor, though I was a biochem\nmajor back then and I haven't seen him since like 1999.\n\nIn any case I will check out the collection.\n\nSent from my iPhone\n\nOn May 14, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:\n\nThanks for this, Steve!  I'm an aspiring writer of fiction myself and\ninfluenced by Wolfe and Lafferty - so you're not alone.  I hope I can share\nmy own book with the list some day (with similar apologies and\nqualifications).\n\nObviously Marc Aramini that frequently posts here is a Wolfe-influenced\nwriter of fiction, as he has a story in the upcoming Wolfe-inspired volume\nof fiction (his name in the same table of contents as the master himself,\nthe lucky dog).\n\nAny others?\n\n-DOJP\n\n\nOn Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Stephen Case <scase1 at nd.edu> wrote:"
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          "text": "Please pardon this rather self-serving note to the list and feel free to\nignore if uninterested. I've recently published a collection of short\nstories, TREES AND OTHER WONDERS, that is now available on the Kindle\nStore:\nhttp://www.amazon.com/Trees-Other-Wonders-Collected-ebook/dp/B00CPS3C3C/\n\nFrom the description: \"for fans of the likes of Neil Gaiman, Gene Wolfe,\nR. A. Lafferty, and Jorge Luis Borges,\" which is why I trouble you with it\nat all.\n\nWolfe has long been a primary inspiration for my own writing. We have\ncorresponded for a number of years, and he has given me very helpful\nfeedback on some of my own stories. This collection includes ten\npreviously-published works (first appearing in a number of pro and semi-pro\nzines) as well as two appearing here for the first time. I'm certainly very\nfar from being anywhere near Gene's league, but I hope that fans of Wolfe\nmight find glimmers of that sense of wonder he does so well in my own work.\n\nPlus, I'd be very interested to hear what you think-- because fans of\nWolfe are the sort of readers I'm looking for.\n\n-Steve\n\n--\nStephen Case\nGraduate Student, Program for the History and Philosophy of Science\nUniversity of Notre Dame\nwww.stephenrcase.com\n815.295.4720\n\n_______________________________________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Stephen Palmer",
        "address": "dekray at yahoo.com"
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      "date": "2013-05-15T10:19:59+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Wolfe-inspired short story collection",
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          "text": "Message: 1\nDate: Tue, 14 May 2013 22:32:23 +0100\nFrom: Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com>\nTo: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>\nSubject: Re: (urth) Wolfe-inspired short story collection\nMessage-ID:\n??? <CAGB0RZ6wbbHOs8S3QEGuzDfDEyaR399cZp+nF=ZmzVDJV0mhrA at mail.gmail.com>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=\"iso-8859-1\"\n\nThanks for this, Steve!? I'm an aspiring writer of fiction myself and\ninfluenced by Wolfe and Lafferty - so you're not alone. I hope I can share\nmy own book with the list some day (with similar apologies and\nqualifications).\n\nObviously Marc Aramini that frequently posts here is a Wolfe-influenced\nwriter of fiction, as he has a story in the upcoming Wolfe-inspired volume\nof fiction (his name in the same table of contents as the master himself,\nthe lucky dog).\n\nAny others?\n\n-DOJP\n\nHi Everyone,\n\nLong-time reader of the Urth List here, but I've never contributed before now. I'm a British SF author published since 1996, some of my work has been compared to GW, mostly I suspect because I also love the \"mysteries beneath the text\" style that GW is a master of. When I first discovered him in the early 'eighties, I realised I'd found the writing style I'd been seeking. Luckily, I began with TBOTNS back in those days! A couple of my novels might be of interest to GW fans, \"Urbis Morpheos\" and \"Memory Seed.\"\n\nKeep up the great work on this list, it's been fascinating reading for a long time...\n\nSteve Palmer"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Andy Robertson",
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      "date": "2013-05-15T13:02:13+00:00",
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          "text": "Some of my \"NIGHTLAND\" stuff mixes in GW vibes . . .most notably, the \nGreat Redoubt was originally meant to be a starship . . . !!!!\n\nhartshorn"
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          "text": "On 15/05/2013 11:19, Stephen Palmer wrote:\nMessage: 1\nDate: Tue, 14 May 2013 22:32:23 +0100\nFrom: Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com \n<mailto:danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com>>\nTo: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net \n<mailto:urth at lists.urth.net>>\nSubject: Re: (urth) Wolfe-inspired short story collection\nMessage-ID:\n    \n<CAGB0RZ6wbbHOs8S3QEGuzDfDEyaR399cZp+nF=ZmzVDJV0mhrA at mail.gmail.com \n<mailto:ZmzVDJV0mhrA at mail.gmail.com>>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=\"iso-8859-1\"\n\nThanks for this, Steve!  I'm an aspiring writer of fiction myself and\ninfluenced by Wolfe and Lafferty - so you're not alone.  I hope I can \nshare\nmy own book with the list some day (with similar apologies and\nqualifications).\n\nObviously Marc Aramini that frequently posts here is a Wolfe-influenced\nwriter of fiction, as he has a story in the upcoming Wolfe-inspired volume\nof fiction (his name in the same table of contents as the master himself,\nthe lucky dog).\n\nAny others?\n\n-DOJP\nHi Everyone,\nLong-time reader of the Urth List here, but I've never contributed \nbefore now. I'm a British SF author published since 1996, some of my \nwork has been compared to GW, mostly I suspect because I also love the \n\"mysteries beneath the text\" style that GW is a master of. When I \nfirst discovered him in the early 'eighties, I realised I'd found the \nwriting style I'd been seeking. Luckily, I began with TBOTNS back in \nthose days! A couple of my novels might be of interest to GW fans, \n\"Urbis Morpheos\" and \"Memory Seed.\"\nKeep up the great work on this list, it's been fascinating reading for \na long time...\nSteve Palmer\n\n\n_______________________________________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Tony Ellis",
        "address": "tonyellis69 at btopenworld.com"
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      "date": "2013-05-16T08:25:09+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Wolfe-inspired short story collection",
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          "text": "Daniel Otto Jack Petersen wrote:\n\nAny others?"
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          "text": "Pride compels me to admit that I had an incredibly juvenile Wolfean\nstory published in Aboriginal SF Magazine years ago. Shame ensures\nthat I'm not going to tell you which issue."
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        "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes",
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      "date": "2013-05-16T14:45:17+00:00",
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          "text": "I haven't published anything I'd call \"Wolfean,\" but I've published four\nstories in the past. The only one in print is in Kevin J. Anderson's \"Tales\nof Jabba's Palace\" -- yes, a STARWARS story -- and the one I'm proudest of\nis in an old issue of REALMS OF FANTASY."
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          "text": "On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Tony Ellis <tonyellis69 at btopenworld.com>wrote:\nDaniel Otto Jack Petersen wrote:"
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          "text": "Pride compels me to admit that I had an incredibly juvenile Wolfean\nstory published in Aboriginal SF Magazine years ago. Shame ensures\nthat I'm not going to tell you which issue.\n_______________________________________________"
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