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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 6406, "subject": "Some possibly old hat Qs from someone who has been offlist\n for nearly a decade", "messages": 7, "voices": 5, "first": "2013-08-05T18:02:40+00:00", "last": "2013-08-06T16:27:54+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Brian Doherty", "address": "brianmdoherty at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-08-05T18:02:40+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Some possibly old hat Qs from someone who has been offlist\n for nearly a decade", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I'm about a third through HOME FIRES and while it is not thrilling me the\nway Wolfe usually does (though I hope backfilling thru commentary here\nmight illuminate it in pleasing ways) and realizing that when I'm done with\nthis book, more than two years old, that I'm out of new Wolfe novels. This\nseems like a long gap for the modern Wolfe----do we know him to be working\non anything? Has anything new been announced? Do we know him to be\n\"retired\"? Forgive if this is all old hat to the rest.\n\nAlso just finished GATE OF HORN....has there been long discussion of that\nhere? Would like to check out before throwing in tattered and repetitive\ntwo cents.\n\nBrian Doherty" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Gwern Branwen", "address": "gwern at gwern.net" }, "date": "2013-08-05T18:04:57+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Some possibly old hat Qs from someone who has been\n offlist for nearly a decade", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Brian Doherty wrote:\nThis seems like a long gap for the modern Wolfe----do we know him to be\nworking on anything? Has anything new been announced? Do we know him to be\n\"retired\"? Forgive if this is all old hat to the rest." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Yes, there's one apparently largely finished and soon to come out;\ngoogle 'The Land Across' for previous links and news articles." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "gwern\nhttp://www.gwern.net" } ] }, { "message_id": "<045B2161-E77B-416A-A6BF-EFBE4C54F9DC@yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2013-08-05T18:15:11+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Some possibly old hat Qs from someone who has been\n\tofflist for nearly a decade", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Publishing has also slowed down considerably in the last few years save for sure thing name sales. Land across is in November and Wolfe is working on A Borrowed Man, about checking out synthesized authors from libraries or so. Land across has been turned in since I think before March 2012 or thereabouts. \n\nSent from my iPhone" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Brian Doherty wrote:\nI'm about a third through HOME FIRES and while it is not thrilling me the way Wolfe usually does (though I hope backfilling thru commentary here might illuminate it in pleasing ways) and realizing that when I'm done with this book, more than two years old, that I'm out of new Wolfe novels. This seems like a long gap for the modern Wolfe----do we know him to be working on anything? Has anything new been announced? Do we know him to be \"retired\"? Forgive if this is all old hat to the rest.\n\nAlso just finished GATE OF HORN....has there been long discussion of that here? Would like to check out before throwing in tattered and repetitive two cents.\n\nBrian Doherty\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Decanus1284", "address": "decanus1284 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-08-05T18:44:04+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Some possibly old hat Qs from someone who has been\n offlist for nearly a decade", "in_reply_to": "<045B2161-E77B-416A-A6BF-EFBE4C54F9DC@yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Regarding Gate of Horn, throw it out there. I have been waiting for some discussion on it myself.\n\n\nT-Mobile, America's First Nationwide 4G Network\n\n-------- Original message --------\nSubject: (urth) Some possibly old hat Qs from someone who has been offlist for nearly a decade \nFrom: Brian Doherty \nTo: urth at lists.urth.net \nCC: \n\nI'm about a third through HOME FIRES and while it is not thrilling me the way Wolfe usually does (though I hope backfilling thru commentary here might illuminate it in pleasing ways) and realizing that when I'm done with this book, more than two years old, that I'm out of new Wolfe novels. This seems like a long gap for the modern Wolfe----do we know him to be working on anything? Has anything new been announced? Do we know him to be \"retired\"? Forgive if this is all old hat to the rest.\n\nAlso just finished GATE OF HORN....has there been long discussion of that here? Would like to check out before throwing in tattered and repetitive two cents.\n\nBrian Doherty" } ] }, { "message_id": "<45BEBA60-6595-40D9-B42F-8BDE75FFFD0E@yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2013-08-05T19:33:34+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Some possibly old hat Qs from someone who has been\n\tofflist for nearly a decade", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Well ... I really like Andre-druissi. His lexicon urthus is great. My issue with gate of horn is pretty simple - while Borski goes way too far and ignores theme in ephemeral conclusions, this one seems very conservative in drawing conclusions but will still posit some strange interpretational stances. The time lines and the long sun commentary are very useful. I can see Roy's influence on its surface presentation. I feel the biggest omission in his rough draft was not acknowledging that Silk's staff was a liana. I offered a whole lot of advice on a very late proof copy but I don't know if any was included. ( have not checked the final version yet). If anyone wants that list of errata-comments I made I will email it off list- I don't want it online anywhere in case Michael decides to do a second edition. \n\nI am just glad there are books published on Wolfe scholarship. \n\nSent from my iPhone" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Decanus1284 wrote:\nRegarding Gate of Horn, throw it out there. I have been waiting for some discussion on it myself.\n\n\nT-Mobile, America's First Nationwide 4G Network \n\n\n-------- Original message --------\nSubject: (urth) Some possibly old hat Qs from someone who has been offlist for nearly a decade \nFrom: Brian Doherty \nTo: urth at lists.urth.net \nCC: \n\n\nI'm about a third through HOME FIRES and while it is not thrilling me the way Wolfe usually does (though I hope backfilling thru commentary here might illuminate it in pleasing ways) and realizing that when I'm done with this book, more than two years old, that I'm out of new Wolfe novels. This seems like a long gap for the modern Wolfe----do we know him to be working on anything? Has anything new been announced? Do we know him to be \"retired\"? Forgive if this is all old hat to the rest.\n\nAlso just finished GATE OF HORN....has there been long discussion of that here? Would like to check out before throwing in tattered and repetitive two cents.\n\nBrian Doherty\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Antonin Scriabin", "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-08-06T13:49:13+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Some possibly old hat Qs from someone who has been\n offlist for nearly a decade", "in_reply_to": "<45BEBA60-6595-40D9-B42F-8BDE75FFFD0E@yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "This is the first I have heard of A Borrowed Man ... is there any more\ninformation, or is the novel in its very earliest stages?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Marc Aramini wrote:\nWell ... I really like Andre-druissi. His lexicon urthus is great. My\nissue with gate of horn is pretty simple - while Borski goes way too far\nand ignores theme in ephemeral conclusions, this one seems very\nconservative in drawing conclusions but will still posit some strange\ninterpretational stances. The time lines and the long sun commentary are\nvery useful. I can see Roy's influence on its surface presentation. I\nfeel the biggest omission in his rough draft was not acknowledging that\nSilk's staff was a liana. I offered a whole lot of advice on a very late\nproof copy but I don't know if any was included. ( have not checked the\nfinal version yet). If anyone wants that list of errata-comments I made I\nwill email it off list- I don't want it online anywhere in case Michael\ndecides to do a second edition.\n\nI am just glad there are books published on Wolfe scholarship.\n\nSent from my iPhone\n\nOn Aug 5, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Decanus1284 wrote:\n\nRegarding Gate of Horn, throw it out there. I have been waiting for some\ndiscussion on it myself.\n\n\nT-Mobile, America's First Nationwide 4G Network\n\n\n-------- Original message --------\nSubject: (urth) Some possibly old hat Qs from someone who has been offlist\nfor nearly a decade\nFrom: Brian Doherty \nTo: urth at lists.urth.net\nCC:\n\n\nI'm about a third through HOME FIRES and while it is not thrilling me the\nway Wolfe usually does (though I hope backfilling thru commentary here\nmight illuminate it in pleasing ways) and realizing that when I'm done with\nthis book, more than two years old, that I'm out of new Wolfe novels. This\nseems like a long gap for the modern Wolfe----do we know him to be working\non anything? Has anything new been announced? Do we know him to be\n\"retired\"? Forgive if this is all old hat to the rest.\n\nAlso just finished GATE OF HORN....has there been long discussion of that\nhere? Would like to check out before throwing in tattered and repetitive\ntwo cents.\n\nBrian Doherty\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<1375806474.32433.YahooMailNeo@web160704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2013-08-06T16:27:54+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Some possibly old hat Qs from someone who has been\n\tofflist for nearly a decade", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Not too much information - the last several years have been interfering to some degree with Wolfe's ability to write without distractions. Legal issues over his wife's care situation, his own heart surgery several years ago, and other issues that come with being in his early 80s probably prevent a rapid pace, but it is at least a few hundred pages into a draft manuscript now, but I don't think a first draft is completed. I will need to check further correspondence with him to see if he gave any more specifics, but it does seem to resonate with The Doctor of Death Island. A synthesis of all available texts has allowed simulacrums of authors themselves to be created and interacted with. I'd say it is in the mid stages. \n " } ] } ] }