home fires: voodoo and catholicism The Urth list — 2 messages, 1 voices, 04 Sep 2013 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/6430 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Marc Aramini — 04 Sep 2013, 16:00 I do think there is something slightly more atavistic and tutelary about Catholicism than many other Christian denominations, and that this sensitivity to representation and symbolism being mutable yet "real" creates a faith that lends itself to syncretism more than, say, fundamental Protestantism, with its literal adherence to a perspicuous word by word approach to biblical authority. Voodoo, in some ways, took the face symbols of Catholicism and mapped those saints and artifacts like "the sacred heart of Jesus" to something else - the face of orthodoxy blended with a "sinister" (or at least different)?undercurrent, a symbolism that is ultimately able to allow the blending of identities and goals, such that a somber Jesus with heart exposed could symbolize something entirely different. I think perhaps this is the appeal of the ceremony where Chelle gets her weapons in Home Fires: a ceremony in a system that takes recognizable faces and channels something BEHIND those faces, with very different motives. Thus the tall shadowy man who stands behind Achille - something "other". This symbolic representation, I feel, is extended to the guns as well. They are guns, of course, but they are more than guns. They are a kind of moral choice, perhaps one of identity, and Chelle's selection of the officer's gun is surely indicative of some bias toward the buried presence of Jane Simms. All those friendly faces, just as in some voodoo ceremonies, and behind them, a force that is intrinsically different but is still somehow effectively symbolized by the "ordinary" (to an orthodox Catholic, anyway). I think this appeals to Wolfe's innate sense for symbols and the theme of his story. He also used a similar kind of neo-pagan ritual in Operation Ares, though that one was married explicitly to technological and acoustic "tricks". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marc Aramini — 04 Sep 2013, 16:08 in reply to Marc Aramini And to Chelle, those guns represent moral authority more than the Saints would, with her almost completely secular understanding of the world. ________________________________ From: Marc Aramini To: Urth List Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:00 AM Subject: (urth) home fires: voodoo and catholicism I do think there is something slightly more atavistic and tutelary about Catholicism than many other Christian denominations, and that this sensitivity to representation and symbolism being mutable yet "real" creates a faith that lends itself to syncretism more than, say, fundamental Protestantism, with its literal adherence to a perspicuous word by word approach to biblical authority. Voodoo, in some ways, took the face symbols of Catholicism and mapped those saints and artifacts like "the sacred heart of Jesus" to something else - the face of orthodoxy blended with a "sinister" (or at least different)?undercurrent, a symbolism that is ultimately able to allow the blending of identities and goals, such that a somber Jesus with heart exposed could symbolize something entirely different. I think perhaps this is the appeal of the ceremony where Chelle gets her weapons in Home Fires: a ceremony in a system that takes recognizable faces and channels something BEHIND those faces, with very different motives. Thus the tall shadowy man who stands behind Achille - something "other". This symbolic representation, I feel, is extended to the guns as well. They are guns, of course, but they are more than guns. They are a kind of moral choice, perhaps one of identity, and Chelle's selection of the officer's gun is surely indicative of some bias toward the buried presence of Jane Simms. All those friendly faces, just as in some voodoo ceremonies, and behind them, a force that is intrinsically different but is still somehow effectively symbolized by the "ordinary" (to an orthodox Catholic, anyway). I think this appeals to Wolfe's innate sense for symbols and the theme of his story. He also used a similar kind of neo-pagan ritual in Operation Ares, though that one was married explicitly to technological and acoustic "tricks". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------