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    "id": 6434,
    "subject": "Greetings Fellow WerWolves",
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    "first": "2013-09-11T17:16:56+00:00",
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        "name": "Jason Cassidy",
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      "date": "2013-09-11T17:16:56+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Greetings Fellow WerWolves",
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          "text": "I just wanted to say hello.  I've been reading the listserve for a few\nyears now, taking the time to go through everything (although with a\nstrange feeling of time travel).  I've been reading Wolfe for about 20\nyears now, since my early teens, and I have been absolutely stymied by how\ndeep and nuanced you've all been in your theorizing and hypothesizing.  I\nhope to be able to hop into some of these discussion, but for now, thanks\nfor the enlightenment.\n\nJason"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Marc Aramini",
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      "date": "2013-09-11T19:59:17+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Greetings Fellow WerWolves",
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          "text": "Sent from my iPhone"
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          "text": "On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Jason Cassidy <bowenkge at gmail.com> wrote:\nI just wanted to say hello.  I've been reading the listserve for a few years now, taking the time to go through everything (although with a strange feeling of time travel).  I've been reading Wolfe for about 20 years now, since my early teens, and I have been absolutely stymied by how deep and nuanced you've all been in your theorizing and hypothesizing.  I hope to be able to hop into some of these discussion, but for now, thanks for the enlightenment.\n\nJason\n_______________________________________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "aaron",
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      "date": "2013-09-11T22:28:05+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Greetings Fellow WerWolves",
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          "text": "I would love to see the collective wisdom of the list in book form\nsomeday.  There is much here of interest to the Wolfe enthusiast.  I have\nmany times gotten lost in the archives and spent hours reading.  Almost as\nfun as reading Wolfe himself.  And I absolutely love your analysis of\nWolfe's short fiction, Marc.  A Herculean effort on your part, but well\nworth it to those who get to read it."
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          "text": "On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:\n\n\nSent from my iPhone\n\nOn Sep 11, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Jason Cassidy <bowenkge at gmail.com> wrote:"
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          "text": "I just wanted to say hello.  I've been reading the listserve for a few\nyears now, taking the time to go through everything (although with a\nstrange feeling of time travel).  I've been reading Wolfe for about 20\nyears now, since my early teens, and I have been absolutely stymied by how\ndeep and nuanced you've all been in your theorizing and hypothesizing.  I\nhope to be able to hop into some of these discussion, but for now, thanks\nfor the enlightenment.\n\nJason\n_______________________________________________"
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        "name": "Marc Aramini",
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      "date": "2013-09-12T05:24:03+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Greetings Fellow WerWolves",
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          "text": "Thanks so much, Aaron!? I appreciate it. I am getting to the portion of his short fiction in the mid 70s where Wolfe produced most of his superb but super dense novellas - Forleson, Silhouette, Death of Doctor Island, Seven American Nights, Eyeflash Miracles, Tracking Song, etc. and it may take me a bit to work through those rigorously, (they are denser than most other novels, but there is a lot of existing explication I need to sort through)?but once I get to the 80s his concentration on the longer novels and series will get the short fiction analysis moving more quickly again. Thanks for the kind words.\n \n\n  \n\n\nI would love to see the collective wisdom of the list in book form someday. There is much here of interest to the Wolfe enthusiast. I have many times gotten lost in the archives and spent hours reading. Almost as fun as reading Wolfe himself. And I absolutely love your analysis of Wolfe's short fiction, Marc. A Herculean effort on your part, but well worth it to those who get to read it."
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          "text": "On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:\n\nSent from my iPhone\n\n\nOn Sep 11, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Jason Cassidy <bowenkge at gmail.com> wrote:"
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          "text": "I just wanted to say hello. ?I've been reading the listserve for a few years now, taking the time to go through everything (although with a strange feeling of time travel). ?I've been reading Wolfe for about 20 years now, since my early teens, and I have been absolutely stymied by how deep and nuanced you've all been in your theorizing and hypothesizing. ?I hope to be able to hop into some of these discussion, but for now, thanks for the enlightenment.\n\nJason\n_______________________________________________\nUrth Mailing List\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net/"
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          "text": "Welcome Jason thanks. ?As you can see the list and the dominant mood and the constituents have changed a lot over the years. ?The early list was especially interesting in the specialization of many posters - vicars, editors, etc. Some day I hope a lot of that early work will be utilized in some more unified form. Wolfe as a childhood experience is wonderful.\n_______________________________________________\nUrth Mailing List\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net/"
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          "text": "Aaron Singleton "
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        "name": "aaron",
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      "date": "2013-09-12T07:10:50+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Greetings Fellow WerWolves",
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          "text": "I look forward to your posts on Seven American Nights and Forlesen and many\nof the stories from that period.  Keep up the fine work."
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          "text": "On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:\nThanks so much, Aaron!  I appreciate it.  I am getting to the portion of\nhis short fiction in the mid 70s where Wolfe produced most of his superb\nbut super dense novellas - Forleson, Silhouette, Death of Doctor Island,\nSeven American Nights, Eyeflash Miracles, Tracking Song, etc. and it may\ntake me a bit to work through those rigorously, (they are denser than most\nother novels, but there is a lot of existing explication I need to sort\nthrough) but once I get to the 80s his concentration on the longer novels\nand series will get the short fiction analysis moving more quickly again.\nThanks for the kind words.\n\n   *From:* aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com>\n*To:* The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>\n*Sent:* Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:28 PM\n*Subject:* Re: (urth) Greetings Fellow WerWolves\n\nI would love to see the collective wisdom of the list in book form\nsomeday.  There is much here of interest to the Wolfe enthusiast.  I have\nmany times gotten lost in the archives and spent hours reading.  Almost as\nfun as reading Wolfe himself.  And I absolutely love your analysis of\nWolfe's short fiction, Marc.  A Herculean effort on your part, but well\nworth it to those who get to read it.\n\n\nOn Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com>wrote:\n\n\n\nSent from my iPhone\n\nOn Sep 11, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Jason Cassidy <bowenkge at gmail.com> wrote:"
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          "text": "I just wanted to say hello.  I've been reading the listserve for a few\nyears now, taking the time to go through everything (although with a\nstrange feeling of time travel).  I've been reading Wolfe for about 20\nyears now, since my early teens, and I have been absolutely stymied by how\ndeep and nuanced you've all been in your theorizing and hypothesizing.  I\nhope to be able to hop into some of these discussion, but for now, thanks\nfor the enlightenment.\n\nJason\n_______________________________________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Gerry Quinn",
        "address": "gerry at bindweed.com"
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      "date": "2013-09-12T09:42:08+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Greetings Fellow WerWolves",
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          "text": "From: Jason Cassidy "
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          "text": "I just wanted to say hello.  I've been reading the listserve for a few\n years now, taking the time to go through everything (although with \na strange feeling of time travel).  I've been reading Wolfe for about\n 20 years now, since my early teens, and I have been absolutely \nstymied by how deep and nuanced you've all been in your theorizing\n and hypothesizing.  I hope to be able to hop into some of these \ndiscussion, but for now, thanks for the enlightenment. "
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          "text": "Welcome!\n\n- Gerry Quinn"
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      "from": {
        "name": "António Pedro Marques",
        "address": "entonio at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2013-09-12T10:13:56+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Greetings Fellow WerWolves",
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          "text": "I'd love to see your work published, Marc.\n\n\nMarc Aramini wrote (12-09-2013 06:24):"
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          "text": "Thanks so much, Aaron!  I appreciate it.  I am getting to the portion of his\nshort fiction in the mid 70s where Wolfe produced most of his superb\nbut super dense novellas - Forleson, Silhouette, Death of Doctor Island,\nSeven American Nights, Eyeflash Miracles, Tracking Song, etc. and it may\ntake me a bit to work through those rigorously, (they are denser than most\nother novels, but there is a lot of existing explication I need to sort\nthrough) but once I get to the 80s his concentration on the longer novels\nand series will get the short fiction analysis moving more quickly again.\nThanks for the kind words.\n\n*From:* aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com>\n*To:* The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>\n*Sent:* Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:28 PM\n*Subject:* Re: (urth) Greetings Fellow WerWolves\n\nI would love to see the collective wisdom of the list in book form someday.\nThere is much here of interest to the Wolfe enthusiast.  I have many times\ngotten lost in the archives and spent hours reading.  Almost as fun as\nreading Wolfe himself.  And I absolutely love your analysis of Wolfe's short\nfiction, Marc.  A Herculean effort on your part, but well worth it to those\nwho get to read it.\n\n\nOn Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com\n<mailto:marcaramini at yahoo.com>> wrote:\n\n\n\n    Sent from my iPhone\n\n    On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Jason Cassidy <bowenkge at gmail.com\n    <mailto:bowenkge at gmail.com>> wrote:\n\n     > I just wanted to say hello.  I've been reading the listserve for a\n    few years now, taking the time to go through everything (although with a\n    strange feeling of time travel).  I've been reading Wolfe for about 20\n    years now, since my early teens, and I have been absolutely stymied by\n    how deep and nuanced you've all been in your theorizing and\n    hypothesizing.  I hope to be able to hop into some of these discussion,\n    but for now, thanks for the enlightenment.\n     >\n     > Jason\n     > _______________________________________________"
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      "message_id": "<6E67DA6D-320D-454B-80B1-6CAF5A4099E0@goosemoon.org>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Allan Anderson",
        "address": "rubel at goosemoon.org"
      },
      "date": "2013-09-12T13:02:53+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Greetings Fellow WerWolves",
      "in_reply_to": "<CACKtX7M7ToQc+qNK6pE_dzxkB4pQpxL0RVmJGYvtUrFKkaWEpA@mail.gmail.com>",
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          "text": "On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Jason Cassidy <bowenkge at gmail.com> wrote:\nI just wanted to say hello.  I've been reading the listserve for a few years now, taking the time to go through everything (although with a strange feeling of time travel).  I've been reading Wolfe for about 20 years now, since my early teens, and I have been absolutely stymied by how deep and nuanced you've all been in your theorizing and hypothesizing.  I hope to be able to hop into some of these discussion, but for now, thanks for the enlightenment.\n\nJason\n______________________________________________"
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          "text": "From one lurker to another, I also say welcome.\n\nOne of my favorite reasons to read this list is following the tangents and other authors whose work comes up. I finally got around to Borges partially due to him being \"required reading\" for this list, and I've also been delighted following up on books by other list favorites such as John Crowley, Jeff VanderMeer and R.A. Lafferty. So aside from encouraging me to read more Wolfe and dig deeper into his work, I love this list for the web of other modern weird tales that spins out from the center."
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      "from": {
        "name": "Robin B. Smith",
        "address": "robinbsmith at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2013-09-12T15:31:09+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Greetings Fellow WerWolves",
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          "text": "I may as well and chime in and say I've been lurking in these parts too.\n\nWelcome all, and cheers and good tidings to you devoted denizens. May you\ncontinue to bless us with your engaging discussions, Lupine and otherwise.\n\n-- Robin"
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          "text": "On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Allan Anderson <rubel at goosemoon.org> wrote:\n\nOn Sep 11, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Jason Cassidy <bowenkge at gmail.com> wrote:"
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          "text": "I just wanted to say hello.  I've been reading the listserve for a few\nyears now, taking the time to go through everything (although with a\nstrange feeling of time travel).  I've been reading Wolfe for about 20\nyears now, since my early teens, and I have been absolutely stymied by how\ndeep and nuanced you've all been in your theorizing and hypothesizing.  I\nhope to be able to hop into some of these discussion, but for now, thanks\nfor the enlightenment.\n\nJason\n______________________________________________"
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          "text": "From one lurker to another, I also say welcome.\n\nOne of my favorite reasons to read this list is following the tangents and\nother authors whose work comes up. I finally got around to Borges partially\ndue to him being \"required reading\" for this list, and I've also been\ndelighted following up on books by other list favorites such as John\nCrowley, Jeff VanderMeer and R.A. Lafferty. So aside from encouraging me to\nread more Wolfe and dig deeper into his work, I love this list for the web\nof other modern weird tales that spins out from the center.\n\n_______________________________________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "entonio at gmail.com",
        "address": "entonio at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2013-09-12T23:35:11+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Greetings Fellow WerWolves",
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          "text": "No dia 12/09/2013, ?s 14:02, Allan Anderson <rubel at goosemoon.org> escreveu:"
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          "text": "One of my favorite reasons to read this list is following the tangents and other authors whose work comes up."
        },
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Eh. Indeed. Of course, to save face, one must pretend to know them all by heart already!"
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