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  "thread": {
    "id": 6436,
    "subject": "Oreb possessed?",
    "messages": 4,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "2013-09-13T07:24:19+00:00",
    "last": "2013-09-14T00:15:21+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<CADQR0GoxqZssw98aWv22E-fazEKc05cAVvOa-SWEboF=vKQAKA@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Larry Miller",
        "address": "decanus1284 at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2013-09-13T07:24:19+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Oreb possessed?",
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          "text": "I have been rereading Book of the Long Sun, and was struck with the notion\nthat maybe Oreb was possessed from the moment of his apparent death during\nthe failed sacrifice (the sacrificial altar was in front of the Sacred\nWindow). The bird seen by Silk fluttering out the second story window prior\nto the appearance of Pike was Oreb, able to do so despite his injured wing\nbecause of the possession. this would also explain Orebs denial- he don't\nremember because he wasn't in control at the time. I don't know if this has\never been brought up before. Any thoughts?"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Marc Aramini",
        "address": "marcaramini at yahoo.com"
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      "date": "2013-09-13T19:38:38+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Oreb possessed?",
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          "text": "I have often wondered about the moment of possession by Oreb, but that glimpse of \"Pike\" in his calotte with Oreb floating down always seemed to me similar to Silk and Oreb showing up in the old woman's story in In Green's Jungles - those two \"guys\" headed backwards in time, Silk much older. There is a curious scene in the final book where they make a big deal about whether Silk was wearing a blue or black tunic, and I think there is something funny going on time wise there as well. He very well could have been possessed way back then - he definitely was by the time of the story \"the Night Chough\", but for how long? will pay attention to it when I re-read the sun cycle, some day not too far away.\n \n\n  \n\n\nI have been rereading Book of the Long Sun, and was struck with the notion that maybe Oreb was possessed from the moment of his apparent death during the failed sacrifice (the sacrificial altar was in front of the Sacred Window). The bird seen by Silk fluttering out the second story window prior to the appearance of Pike was Oreb, able to do so despite his injured wing because of the possession. this would also explain Orebs denial- he don't remember because he wasn't in control at the time. I don't know if this has ever been brought up before. Any thoughts? "
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      "from": {
        "name": "entonio at gmail.com",
        "address": "entonio at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2013-09-13T19:54:25+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Oreb possessed?",
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          "text": "I suppose possession may have started at any time, but I'd be sad if we came to the conclusion that a lot of Oreb wasn't Oreb. I like Oreb. \n\nNo dia 13/09/2013, ?s 20:38, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> escreveu:"
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          "text": "I have often wondered about the moment of possession by Oreb, but that glimpse of \"Pike\" in his calotte with Oreb floating down always seemed to me similar to Silk and Oreb showing up in the old woman's story in In Green's Jungles - those two \"guys\" headed backwards in time, Silk much older.  There is a curious scene in the final book where they make a big deal about whether Silk was wearing a blue or black tunic, and I think there is something funny going on time wise there as well.  He very well could have been possessed way back then - he definitely was by the time of the story \"the Night Chough\", but for how long? will pay attention to it when I re-read the sun cycle, some day not too far away.\nFrom: Larry Miller <decanus1284 at gmail.com>\nTo: Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> \nSent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:24 AM\nSubject: (urth) Oreb possessed?\n\nI have been rereading Book of the Long Sun, and was struck with the notion that maybe Oreb was possessed from the moment of his apparent death during the failed sacrifice (the sacrificial altar was in front of the Sacred Window). The bird seen by Silk fluttering out the second story window prior to the appearance of Pike was Oreb, able to do so despite his injured wing because of the possession. this would also explain Orebs denial- he don't remember because he wasn't in control at the time. I don't know if this has ever been brought up before. Any thoughts?\n\n_______________________________________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Larry Miller",
        "address": "decanus1284 at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2013-09-14T00:15:21+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Oreb possessed?",
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          "text": "I can agree with you that something is \"funny time wise\" here, but Im\nbeginning to think that while Pikes appearance maybe had to do with some\ntemporal/astral travel,  Oreb is another matter entirely.  Pike is\nseen several minutes and a few pages after Oreb. Maybe Oreb and Pike aren't\nso connected after all."
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          "text": "On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 3:54 PM, <entonio at gmail.com> wrote:\n I suppose possession may have started at any time, but I'd be sad if we\ncame to the conclusion that a lot of Oreb wasn't Oreb. I like Oreb.\n\nNo dia 13/09/2013, ?s 20:38, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com>\nescreveu:\n\n    I have often wondered about the moment of possession by Oreb, but\nthat glimpse of \"Pike\" in his calotte with Oreb floating down always seemed\nto me similar to Silk and Oreb showing up in the old woman's story in In\nGreen's Jungles - those two \"guys\" headed backwards in time, Silk much\nolder.  There is a curious scene in the final book where they make a big\ndeal about whether Silk was wearing a blue or black tunic, and I think\nthere is something funny going on time wise there as well.  He very well\ncould have been possessed way back then - he definitely was by the time of\nthe story \"the Night Chough\", but for how long? will pay attention to it\nwhen I re-read the sun cycle, some day not too far away.\n  *From:* Larry Miller <decanus1284 at gmail.com>\n*To:* Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>\n*Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2013 12:24 AM\n*Subject:* (urth) Oreb possessed?\n\n I have been rereading Book of the Long Sun, and was struck with the\nnotion that maybe Oreb was possessed from the moment of his apparent death\nduring the failed sacrifice (the sacrificial altar was in front of the\nSacred Window). The bird seen by Silk fluttering out the second story\nwindow prior to the appearance of Pike was Oreb, able to do so despite his\ninjured wing because of the possession. this would also explain Orebs\ndenial- he don't remember because he wasn't in control at the time. I don't\nknow if this has ever been brought up before. Any thoughts?\n\n_______________________________________________"
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