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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 6471, "subject": "New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "messages": 15, "voices": 7, "first": "2013-12-02T21:16:37+00:00", "last": "2014-02-02T05:54:50+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Daniel Otto Jack Petersen", "address": "danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-12-02T21:16:37+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I know this list occasionally gets used for Lafferty news as well (rightly\nso, since Wolfe considers Lafferty and actual and true genius), so I just\nwanted to make sure folks new Centipede Press is putting out the first fine\nvolume of Lafferty's complete stories (they're calling it the Lafferty\nLibrary). They say each volume will feature 'a guest introduction by a\nnotable author in the field of fantastic fiction' (the first is by noted\nWolfe fan Michael Swanwick). I hope they'll get Wolfe to do one!\n\nhttp://www.centipedepress.com/sf/manmademodels.html\n\nI discuss the pros and cons of the particular table of contents they've\nrevealed on my Lafferty blog:\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/complete-lafferty-library-volume-1.html\n\nAlso, in case you've never seen where Wolfe calls Lafferty 'our most\noriginal writer' (he calls him a genius in a different essay), a few years\nago I copied out Wolfe's essay from Castle of Days here:\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/its-great-to-be-young-and-in-danger.html\n\nTake care." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Daniel Otto Jack Petersen" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Antonin Scriabin", "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-12-02T21:29:47+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Awesome! Reading Lafferty is one of those experiences that makes me\nrealize just how much a love reading, and it is great that this collection\nwill have so many stories of his I otherwise wouldn't have easy (or\nreasonably priced) access to. Can't wait to have them all, but I will say\nI'm not a fan of the cover design. I assume the binding and other features\nwill be of high quality." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:\nI know this list occasionally gets used for Lafferty news as well (rightly\nso, since Wolfe considers Lafferty and actual and true genius), so I just\nwanted to make sure folks new Centipede Press is putting out the first fine\nvolume of Lafferty's complete stories (they're calling it the Lafferty\nLibrary). They say each volume will feature 'a guest introduction by a\nnotable author in the field of fantastic fiction' (the first is by noted\nWolfe fan Michael Swanwick). I hope they'll get Wolfe to do one!\n\nhttp://www.centipedepress.com/sf/manmademodels.html\n\nI discuss the pros and cons of the particular table of contents they've\nrevealed on my Lafferty blog:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/complete-lafferty-library-volume-1.html\n\nAlso, in case you've never seen where Wolfe calls Lafferty 'our most\noriginal writer' (he calls him a genius in a different essay), a few years\nago I copied out Wolfe's essay from Castle of Days here:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/its-great-to-be-young-and-in-danger.html\n\nTake care.\n\n--\nDaniel Otto Jack Petersen\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Fred Kiesche", "address": "godelescherbach at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-12-02T21:36:54+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Afterword by John Pelan? He dares show his face in public, anywhere?\n\n//grrrrrrrrrr//" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:\nI know this list occasionally gets used for Lafferty news as well (rightly\nso, since Wolfe considers Lafferty and actual and true genius), so I just\nwanted to make sure folks new Centipede Press is putting out the first fine\nvolume of Lafferty's complete stories (they're calling it the Lafferty\nLibrary). They say each volume will feature 'a guest introduction by a\nnotable author in the field of fantastic fiction' (the first is by noted\nWolfe fan Michael Swanwick). I hope they'll get Wolfe to do one!\n\nhttp://www.centipedepress.com/sf/manmademodels.html\n\nI discuss the pros and cons of the particular table of contents they've\nrevealed on my Lafferty blog:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/complete-lafferty-library-volume-1.html\n\nAlso, in case you've never seen where Wolfe calls Lafferty 'our most\noriginal writer' (he calls him a genius in a different essay), a few years\nago I copied out Wolfe's essay from Castle of Days here:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/its-great-to-be-young-and-in-danger.html\n\nTake care.\n\n--\nDaniel Otto Jack Petersen\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Daniel Otto Jack Petersen", "address": "danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-12-02T23:29:18+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Antonin, I agree about the cover.\n\nFred, what's the beef with Pelan? Never heard of him before now...\n\n-DOJP" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:\nAfterword by John Pelan? He dares show his face in public, anywhere?\n\n//grrrrrrrrrr//\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I know this list occasionally gets used for Lafferty news as well\n(rightly so, since Wolfe considers Lafferty and actual and true genius), so\nI just wanted to make sure folks new Centipede Press is putting out the\nfirst fine volume of Lafferty's complete stories (they're calling it the\nLafferty Library). They say each volume will feature 'a guest introduction\nby a notable author in the field of fantastic fiction' (the first is by\nnoted Wolfe fan Michael Swanwick). I hope they'll get Wolfe to do one!\n\nhttp://www.centipedepress.com/sf/manmademodels.html\n\nI discuss the pros and cons of the particular table of contents they've\nrevealed on my Lafferty blog:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/complete-lafferty-library-volume-1.html\n\nAlso, in case you've never seen where Wolfe calls Lafferty 'our most\noriginal writer' (he calls him a genius in a different essay), a few years\nago I copied out Wolfe's essay from Castle of Days here:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/its-great-to-be-young-and-in-danger.html\n\nTake care.\n\n--\nDaniel Otto Jack Petersen\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Fred Kiesche", "address": "godelescherbach at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-12-02T23:38:18+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "He ran a publishing house. There are quite a few of us that bought books\nthat were never sent. In my case, an advanced order, paid in full, for an\nanthology series of the short work of Clifford D. Simak.\n\nSo I'm out several hundred dollars. As are many other CDS fans." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Dec 2, 2013 6:29 PM, \"Daniel Otto Jack Petersen\" <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:\nAntonin, I agree about the cover.\n\nFred, what's the beef with Pelan? Never heard of him before now...\n\n-DOJP\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Afterword by John Pelan? He dares show his face in public, anywhere?\n\n//grrrrrrrrrr//\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I know this list occasionally gets used for Lafferty news as well\n(rightly so, since Wolfe considers Lafferty and actual and true genius), so\nI just wanted to make sure folks new Centipede Press is putting out the\nfirst fine volume of Lafferty's complete stories (they're calling it the\nLafferty Library). They say each volume will feature 'a guest introduction\nby a notable author in the field of fantastic fiction' (the first is by\nnoted Wolfe fan Michael Swanwick). I hope they'll get Wolfe to do one!\n\nhttp://www.centipedepress.com/sf/manmademodels.html\n\nI discuss the pros and cons of the particular table of contents they've\nrevealed on my Lafferty blog:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/complete-lafferty-library-volume-1.html\n\nAlso, in case you've never seen where Wolfe calls Lafferty 'our most\noriginal writer' (he calls him a genius in a different essay), a few years\nago I copied out Wolfe's essay from Castle of Days here:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/its-great-to-be-young-and-in-danger.html\n\nTake care.\n\n--\nDaniel Otto Jack Petersen\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Daniel Otto Jack Petersen", "address": "danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-12-02T23:39:48+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Ouch. Doesn't bode well for the Lafferty Library!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:\nHe ran a publishing house. There are quite a few of us that bought books\nthat were never sent. In my case, an advanced order, paid in full, for an\nanthology series of the short work of Clifford D. Simak.\n\nSo I'm out several hundred dollars. As are many other CDS fans.\nOn Dec 2, 2013 6:29 PM, \"Daniel Otto Jack Petersen\" <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Antonin, I agree about the cover.\n\nFred, what's the beef with Pelan? Never heard of him before now...\n\n-DOJP\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Afterword by John Pelan? He dares show his face in public, anywhere?\n\n//grrrrrrrrrr//\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "I know this list occasionally gets used for Lafferty news as well\n(rightly so, since Wolfe considers Lafferty and actual and true genius), so\nI just wanted to make sure folks new Centipede Press is putting out the\nfirst fine volume of Lafferty's complete stories (they're calling it the\nLafferty Library). They say each volume will feature 'a guest introduction\nby a notable author in the field of fantastic fiction' (the first is by\nnoted Wolfe fan Michael Swanwick). I hope they'll get Wolfe to do one!\n\nhttp://www.centipedepress.com/sf/manmademodels.html\n\nI discuss the pros and cons of the particular table of contents they've\nrevealed on my Lafferty blog:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/complete-lafferty-library-volume-1.html\n\nAlso, in case you've never seen where Wolfe calls Lafferty 'our most\noriginal writer' (he calls him a genius in a different essay), a few years\nago I copied out Wolfe's essay from Castle of Days here:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/its-great-to-be-young-and-in-danger.html\n\nTake care.\n\n--\nDaniel Otto Jack Petersen\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Fred Kiesche", "address": "godelescherbach at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-12-03T00:01:37+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "If he's restricted to contributing words, it shouldn't be a problem." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Dec 2, 2013 6:39 PM, \"Daniel Otto Jack Petersen\" <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:\nOuch. Doesn't bode well for the Lafferty Library!\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "He ran a publishing house. There are quite a few of us that bought books\nthat were never sent. In my case, an advanced order, paid in full, for an\nanthology series of the short work of Clifford D. Simak.\n\nSo I'm out several hundred dollars. As are many other CDS fans.\nOn Dec 2, 2013 6:29 PM, \"Daniel Otto Jack Petersen\" <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Antonin, I agree about the cover.\n\nFred, what's the beef with Pelan? Never heard of him before now...\n\n-DOJP\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Afterword by John Pelan? He dares show his face in public, anywhere?\n\n//grrrrrrrrrr//\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "I know this list occasionally gets used for Lafferty news as well\n(rightly so, since Wolfe considers Lafferty and actual and true genius), so\nI just wanted to make sure folks new Centipede Press is putting out the\nfirst fine volume of Lafferty's complete stories (they're calling it the\nLafferty Library). They say each volume will feature 'a guest introduction\nby a notable author in the field of fantastic fiction' (the first is by\nnoted Wolfe fan Michael Swanwick). I hope they'll get Wolfe to do one!\n\nhttp://www.centipedepress.com/sf/manmademodels.html\n\nI discuss the pros and cons of the particular table of contents\nthey've revealed on my Lafferty blog:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/complete-lafferty-library-volume-1.html\n\nAlso, in case you've never seen where Wolfe calls Lafferty 'our most\noriginal writer' (he calls him a genius in a different essay), a few years\nago I copied out Wolfe's essay from Castle of Days here:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/its-great-to-be-young-and-in-danger.html\n\nTake care.\n\n--\nDaniel Otto Jack Petersen\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-12-03T01:13:16+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Pelan is an \"associate editor\" at Centipede Press. On the other hand, so is\nthe highly reliable S.T. Joshi." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:\nIf he's restricted to contributing words, it shouldn't be a problem.\nOn Dec 2, 2013 6:39 PM, \"Daniel Otto Jack Petersen\" <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Ouch. Doesn't bode well for the Lafferty Library!\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "He ran a publishing house. There are quite a few of us that bought books\nthat were never sent. In my case, an advanced order, paid in full, for an\nanthology series of the short work of Clifford D. Simak.\n\nSo I'm out several hundred dollars. As are many other CDS fans.\nOn Dec 2, 2013 6:29 PM, \"Daniel Otto Jack Petersen\" <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Antonin, I agree about the cover.\n\nFred, what's the beef with Pelan? Never heard of him before now...\n\n-DOJP\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 6, "text": "I know this list occasionally gets used for Lafferty news as well\n(rightly so, since Wolfe considers Lafferty and actual and true genius), so\nI just wanted to make sure folks new Centipede Press is putting out the\nfirst fine volume of Lafferty's complete stories (they're calling it the\nLafferty Library). They say each volume will feature 'a guest introduction\nby a notable author in the field of fantastic fiction' (the first is by\nnoted Wolfe fan Michael Swanwick). I hope they'll get Wolfe to do one!\n\nhttp://www.centipedepress.com/sf/manmademodels.html\n\nI discuss the pros and cons of the particular table of contents\nthey've revealed on my Lafferty blog:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/complete-lafferty-library-volume-1.html\n\nAlso, in case you've never seen where Wolfe calls Lafferty 'our most\noriginal writer' (he calls him a genius in a different essay), a few years\nago I copied out Wolfe's essay from Castle of Days here:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/its-great-to-be-young-and-in-danger.html\n\nTake care.\n\n--\nDaniel Otto Jack Petersen\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<529d5dae.011e320a.1f73.4285@mx.google.com>", "from": { "name": "Christopher Simon", "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-12-03T04:27:02+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I met a Lafferty fan in the flesh the other day. I was at a used bookstore and saw a woman paging through Strange Doings, then she placed it back on the shelf. I told her it was worth it, and she said she already had two copies, and was just considering buying a back up in case the others fell apart! She mentioned her favorite was a history of Rome written by Lafferty. Has anyone read it? Thoughts?\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: \"Dan'l Danehy-Oakes\" \nSent: ?12/?2/?2013 8:13 PM\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nSubject: Re: (urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press\n\nPelan is an \"associate editor\" at Centipede Press. On the other hand, so is the highly reliable S.T. Joshi.\n\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:\n\nIf he's restricted to contributing words, it shouldn't be a problem. \nOn Dec 2, 2013 6:39 PM, \"Daniel Otto Jack Petersen\" wrote:\n\nOuch. Doesn't bode well for the Lafferty Library!\n\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:\n\nHe ran a publishing house. There are quite a few of us that bought books that were never sent. In my case, an advanced order, paid in full, for an anthology series of the short work of Clifford D. Simak.\nSo I'm out several hundred dollars. As are many other CDS fans. \nOn Dec 2, 2013 6:29 PM, \"Daniel Otto Jack Petersen\" wrote:\n\nAntonin, I agree about the cover.\n\n\nFred, what's the beef with Pelan? Never heard of him before now...\n\n\n-DOJP\n\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:\n\nAfterword by John Pelan? He dares show his face in public, anywhere?\n \n//grrrrrrrrrr//\n\n\n\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen wrote:\n\nI know this list occasionally gets used for Lafferty news as well (rightly so, since Wolfe considers Lafferty and actual and true genius), so I just wanted to make sure folks new Centipede Press is putting out the first fine volume of Lafferty's complete stories (they're calling it the Lafferty Library). They say each volume will feature 'a guest introduction by a notable author in the field of fantastic fiction' (the first is by noted Wolfe fan Michael Swanwick). I hope they'll get Wolfe to do one!\n\n\nhttp://www.centipedepress.com/sf/manmademodels.html\n\n\n\nI discuss the pros and cons of the particular table of contents they've revealed on my Lafferty blog:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/complete-lafferty-library-volume-1.html\n\n\n\nAlso, in case you've never seen where Wolfe calls Lafferty 'our most original writer' (he calls him a genius in a different essay), a few years ago I copied out Wolfe's essay from Castle of Days here:\n\n\nhttp://antsofgodarequeerfish.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/its-great-to-be-young-and-in-danger.html\n\n\nTake care." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Daniel Otto Jack Petersen \n\n\n\n\n\n\n-- \n\nF.P. Kiesche III\n \nHusband, Father, Good Cook. Reader. Keeper of abandoned dogs. Catholic Liberal Conservative Militarist. Does not fit into a neat box or category. \"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at Bernal Alpha. On Twitter as @FredKiesche\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-- \nDaniel Otto Jack Petersen \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n-- \nDaniel Otto Jack Petersen " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Gwern Branwen", "address": "gwern at gwern.net" }, "date": "2013-12-03T04:30:30+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "<529d5dae.011e320a.1f73.4285@mx.google.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Christopher Simon\n wrote:\nShe mentioned her favorite was a history of Rome written by Lafferty. Has\nanyone read it? Thoughts?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "_The Fall of Rome_ has come up once or twice on the Lafferty forums.\nIt's a pretty odd book. I had the opportunity to read most of it in a\nlibrary once. IIRC, it was sort of a nonfiction account written in a\nnovelistic manner, and I didn't know what to make of it because I\ndidn't know how much of it was standard history and how much was\nLafferty's extrapolations or interpolations or editorializing." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "gwern\nhttp://www.gwern.net" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Daniel Otto Jack Petersen", "address": "danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com" }, "date": "2013-12-03T08:14:02+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Gwern Branwen \n4:30 AM (3 hours ago)\nto Urth" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Christopher Simon\n wrote:\nShe mentioned her favorite was a history of Rome written by Lafferty. Has\nanyone read it? Thoughts?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "_The Fall of Rome_ has come up once or twice on the Lafferty forums.\nIt's a pretty odd book. I had the opportunity to read most of it in a\nlibrary once. IIRC, it was sort of a nonfiction account written in a\nnovelistic manner, and I didn't know what to make of it because I\ndidn't know how much of it was standard history and how much was\nLafferty's extrapolations or interpolations or editorializing.\n\nPretty much the same situation for me when I read most of it, Gwern. But\nfor an aficionado there are Laffertian gold nuggets in there, and it was\ninteresting to see him write a few passages that felt almost like his\nunique version of high fantasy, which is something I've never seen him\nattempt elsewhere. Interesting connections with Wolfe there... -DOJP" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Gwern Branwen wrote:\nOn Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Christopher Simon\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "She mentioned her favorite was a history of Rome written by Lafferty. Has\nanyone read it? Thoughts?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "_The Fall of Rome_ has come up once or twice on the Lafferty forums.\nIt's a pretty odd book. I had the opportunity to read most of it in a\nlibrary once. IIRC, it was sort of a nonfiction account written in a\nnovelistic manner, and I didn't know what to make of it because I\ndidn't know how much of it was standard history and how much was\nLafferty's extrapolations or interpolations or editorializing.\n\n--\ngwern\nhttp://www.gwern.net\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<52B7C531.9010600@btconnect.com>", "from": { "name": "Andy Robertson", "address": "pinlighter at btconnect.com" }, "date": "2013-12-23T05:08:01+00:00", "subject": "(urth) LEGACY PAGE FOR ROSEMARY WOLFE - MESSGES OF SYMPATHY ETC", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "FROM THE FICTIONMAGS GROUP\n\n\n\n\nTIP O' THE HAT TO GORDON VAN GELDER**" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Antonin Scriabin", "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com" }, "date": "2014-02-02T05:29:43+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Finally got my copy of the first volume today. It is pretty nice, although\nI'm still not a fan of the cover design. The margins seem unusually large\nas well, there is a lot of space between the text and the edge of the page.\nThe binding and materials are high quality though, and this will make a\nbeautiful set when complete. And of course, all of the stories will be on\nmy shelves! Can't wait to read ones I've missed." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Dec 3, 2013 3:14 AM, \"Daniel Otto Jack Petersen\" <\ndanielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote:\nGwern Branwen \n4:30 AM (3 hours ago)\n to Urth\n On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Christopher Simon\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "She mentioned her favorite was a history of Rome written by Lafferty. Has\nanyone read it? Thoughts?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "_The Fall of Rome_ has come up once or twice on the Lafferty forums.\nIt's a pretty odd book. I had the opportunity to read most of it in a\nlibrary once. IIRC, it was sort of a nonfiction account written in a\nnovelistic manner, and I didn't know what to make of it because I\ndidn't know how much of it was standard history and how much was\nLafferty's extrapolations or interpolations or editorializing.\n\nPretty much the same situation for me when I read most of it, Gwern. But\nfor an aficionado there are Laffertian gold nuggets in there, and it was\ninteresting to see him write a few passages that felt almost like his\nunique version of high fantasy, which is something I've never seen him\nattempt elsewhere. Interesting connections with Wolfe there... -DOJP\n\n\nOn Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Gwern Branwen wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Christopher Simon\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "She mentioned her favorite was a history of Rome written by Lafferty." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Has\nanyone read it? Thoughts?\n\n_The Fall of Rome_ has come up once or twice on the Lafferty forums.\nIt's a pretty odd book. I had the opportunity to read most of it in a\nlibrary once. IIRC, it was sort of a nonfiction account written in a\nnovelistic manner, and I didn't know what to make of it because I\ndidn't know how much of it was standard history and how much was\nLafferty's extrapolations or interpolations or editorializing.\n\n--\ngwern\nhttp://www.gwern.net\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<5BDEAAF4-A7EA-4439-85DE-6C3C4AEF5B08@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Matthew King", "address": "automatthew at gmail.com" }, "date": "2014-02-02T05:49:25+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I received mine as well. The physical quality is as Antonin described.\n\nI was displeased to come upon three errors on the second page of the first story (18). The name of the titular character is twice given as Jan instead of Jon, and there's a word missing from a sentence immediately after that. Very disappointing in a volume priced for collectors.\n\nMoreover, the pages have no headers; there is text, there are page numbers at the bottom, but that is all. In this kind of a collection of short stories, I expect to see the title of each story at the top of the appropriate pages.\n\nIt's Lafferty, so I still plan to buy every volume they publish, but my goodwill for their effort is diminished. Makes me wish I had had $70K in hand when his estate was up for sale." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Feb 1, 2014, at 11:29 PM, Antonin Scriabin wrote:\nFinally got my copy of the first volume today. It is pretty nice, although I'm still not a fan of the cover design. The margins seem unusually large as well, there is a lot of space between the text and the edge of the page. The binding and materials are high quality though, and this will make a beautiful set when complete. And of course, all of the stories will be on my shelves! Can't wait to read ones I've missed." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Antonin Scriabin", "address": "kierkegaurdian at gmail.com" }, "date": "2014-02-02T05:54:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Lafferty collection from Centipede Press", "in_reply_to": "<5BDEAAF4-A7EA-4439-85DE-6C3C4AEF5B08@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "That's a shame about the typos, I haven't delved into it fully, just\nskimmed. I too will be buying every volume. Lafferty is peerless in short\nstories, and getting them all is worth... well, let me just say I would be\nwilling to put up with a lot to have a complete collection. I am a bit\nconfused about the pricing as well. My copy was $45, the sticker on the\npackaging said $100, and the Amazon pricing is $63. I wonder how the prices\nfor the future volumes are going to pan out." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Feb 2, 2014 12:49 AM, \"Matthew King\" wrote:\nI received mine as well. The physical quality is as Antonin described.\n\nI was displeased to come upon three errors on the second page of the first\nstory (18). The name of the titular character is twice given as Jan\ninstead of Jon, and there's a word missing from a sentence immediately\nafter that. Very disappointing in a volume priced for collectors.\n\nMoreover, the pages have no headers; there is text, there are page numbers\nat the bottom, but that is all. In this kind of a collection of short\nstories, I expect to see the title of each story at the top of the\nappropriate pages.\n\nIt's Lafferty, so I still plan to buy every volume they publish, but my\ngoodwill for their effort is diminished. Makes me wish I had had $70K in\nhand when his estate was up for sale.\n\nOn Feb 1, 2014, at 11:29 PM, Antonin Scriabin \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Finally got my copy of the first volume today. It is pretty nice,\nalthough I'm still not a fan of the cover design. The margins seem\nunusually large as well, there is a lot of space between the text and the\nedge of the page. The binding and materials are high quality though, and\nthis will make a beautiful set when complete. And of course, all of the\nstories will be on my shelves! Can't wait to read ones I've missed." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "_______________________________________________" } ] } ] }