# Peace, Jurgen, Nessus *The Urth list — 3 messages, 3 voices, 24 Dec 2013* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Marc Aramini *24 Dec 2013, 17:29* Tried to send this message a few times but it hasn't gone through. Still looking up references in Peace, at one point Lois Arbuthnot says that Weer's sword is not like Jurgen's. (it is a secret sword, a pocket knife) so I started to read Jurgen, which is dedicated to burton rascoe. Not quite enough to get the name Roscoe?which Blaine uses for James McAfee, but within three pages several things struck me: talk of Jurgen as a symbol of the sun, and then talk of the Nessus shirt. The centaur Nessus allows Jurgen to talk to his earliest love when she is young before her betrayals. Time shifting of perceptions going on as well there. --- ### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes *24 Dec 2013, 19:32 · in reply to Marc Aramini* Heh. Jurgen's sword is his penis. > On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Marc Aramini wrote: > Tried to send this message a few times but it hasn't gone through. Still > looking up references in Peace, at one point Lois Arbuthnot says that > Weer's sword is not like Jurgen's. (it is a secret sword, a pocket knife) > so I started to read Jurgen, which is dedicated to burton rascoe. Not > quite enough to get the name Roscoe which Blaine uses for James McAfee, but > within three pages several things struck me: talk of Jurgen as a symbol of > the sun, and then talk of the Nessus shirt. The centaur Nessus allows > Jurgen to talk to his earliest love when she is young before her > betrayals. Time shifting of perceptions going on as well there. > > _______________________________________________ --- ### jbarach at aol.com *24 Dec 2013, 20:27 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* http://tinyurl.com/Jurgen-s-Sword John -----Original Message----- From: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes To: Marc Aramini ; The Urth Mailing List Sent: Tue, Dec 24, 2013 1:32 pm Subject: Re: (urth) Peace, Jurgen, Nessus Heh. Jurgen's sword is his penis. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Marc Aramini wrote: Tried to send this message a few times but it hasn't gone through. Still looking up references in Peace, at one point Lois Arbuthnot says that Weer's sword is not like Jurgen's. (it is a secret sword, a pocket knife) so I started to read Jurgen, which is dedicated to burton rascoe. Not quite enough to get the name Roscoe which Blaine uses for James McAfee, but within three pages several things struck me: talk of Jurgen as a symbol of the sun, and then talk of the Nessus shirt. The centaur Nessus allows Jurgen to talk to his earliest love when she is young before her betrayals. Time shifting of perceptions going on as well there. ``` Dan'l Danehy-Oakes ``` ---