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    "id": 6520,
    "subject": "Bibliomen",
    "messages": 9,
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    "first": "2014-03-17T19:26:34+00:00",
    "last": "2014-03-27T20:21:01+00:00"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Antonin Scriabin",
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      "date": "2014-03-17T19:26:34+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Bibliomen",
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          "text": "Anyone here read it?  It seems hard to find / expensive.  Is it a\ncollection of short stories generally not available elsewhere?  Thanks!"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Fernando Gouvea",
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      "date": "2014-03-17T20:05:06+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Bibliomen",
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          "text": "It's not really a collection of stories, but rather of characters. Of\ncourse, in many cases describing a character makes for a mini-story.\n\nIt exists in two versions. The original edition was an impossibly expensive\nfine press book from Cheap Street press. The copy I have is a paperback\nreprint thar came out many years later. Copies of that one shouldn't be too\nexpensive.\n\nWorth having? I think so, but certainly not the main event.\n\nFernando\n\nPS: at the very first Readercon I had a chance to buy the Cheap Street\nversion for less than $200 at an auction and chickened out. Advice to young\nself: you'll regret not spending that money!"
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          "text": "On Monday, March 17, 2014, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>\nwrote:\nAnyone here read it?  It seems hard to find / expensive.  Is it a\ncollection of short stories generally not available elsewhere?  Thanks!"
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        "name": "Antonin Scriabin",
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      "date": "2014-03-17T20:11:10+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Bibliomen",
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          "text": "At this point I own all of Wolfe's novels (and a few extra copies of\ninterest, signed or whatnot) and most of the short story collections, and\nI've reached the point where I feel compelled to collect what is left.\nThanks for the info!  I did find the less expensive version, they still go\nfor about $40."
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          "text": "On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Fernando Gouvea <fqgouvea at colby.edu> wrote:\nIt's not really a collection of stories, but rather of characters. Of\ncourse, in many cases describing a character makes for a mini-story.\n\nIt exists in two versions. The original edition was an impossibly\nexpensive fine press book from Cheap Street press. The copy I have is a\npaperback reprint thar came out many years later. Copies of that one\nshouldn't be too expensive.\n\nWorth having? I think so, but certainly not the main event.\n\nFernando\n\nPS: at the very first Readercon I had a chance to buy the Cheap Street\nversion for less than $200 at an auction and chickened out. Advice to young\nself: you'll regret not spending that money!\n\n\nOn Monday, March 17, 2014, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>\nwrote:"
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          "text": "Anyone here read it?  It seems hard to find / expensive.  Is it a\ncollection of short stories generally not available elsewhere?  Thanks!"
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          "text": "--\nSent from Gmail Mobile\n\n_______________________________________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes",
        "address": "danldo at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2014-03-17T20:15:02+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Bibliomen",
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          "text": "ABEBooks has copies of this and Plan[e]t Engineering for under a hundred.\nYoung Wolfe will set you about $130. They don't seem to have any copies of\nLetters Home at all."
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          "text": "On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Antonin Scriabin\n<kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>wrote:\nAt this point I own all of Wolfe's novels (and a few extra copies of\ninterest, signed or whatnot) and most of the short story collections, and\nI've reached the point where I feel compelled to collect what is left.\nThanks for the info!  I did find the less expensive version, they still go\nfor about $40.\n\n\nOn Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Fernando Gouvea <fqgouvea at colby.edu>wrote:"
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          "text": "It's not really a collection of stories, but rather of characters. Of\ncourse, in many cases describing a character makes for a mini-story.\n\nIt exists in two versions. The original edition was an impossibly\nexpensive fine press book from Cheap Street press. The copy I have is a\npaperback reprint thar came out many years later. Copies of that one\nshouldn't be too expensive.\n\nWorth having? I think so, but certainly not the main event.\n\nFernando\n\nPS: at the very first Readercon I had a chance to buy the Cheap Street\nversion for less than $200 at an auction and chickened out. Advice to young\nself: you'll regret not spending that money!\n\n\nOn Monday, March 17, 2014, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>\nwrote:"
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          "text": "Anyone here read it?  It seems hard to find / expensive.  Is it a\ncollection of short stories generally not available elsewhere?  Thanks!"
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          "text": "--\nSent from Gmail Mobile\n\n_______________________________________________"
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        "name": "Fernando Gouvea",
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      "date": "2014-03-17T20:16:25+00:00",
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          "text": "That sounds about right. The Cheap Street version, new, cost around $200, I\nthink.\n\nLike you, I feel the need to have it all, but some things (those original\nCheap Street editions, some of Christmas-card-stories, ...) will forever\nremain a bridge too far. But I do haave both versions of the guide to the\nShambles...\n\nFernanfo"
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          "text": "On Monday, March 17, 2014, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>\nwrote:\nAt this point I own all of Wolfe's novels (and a few extra copies of\ninterest, signed or whatnot) and most of the short story collections, and\nI've reached the point where I feel compelled to collect what is left.\nThanks for the info!  I did find the less expensive version, they still go\nfor about $40.\n\n\nOn Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Fernando Gouvea <fqgouvea at colby.edu<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','fqgouvea at colby.edu');>\nwrote:"
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          "text": "It's not really a collection of stories, but rather of characters. Of\ncourse, in many cases describing a character makes for a mini-story.\n\nIt exists in two versions. The original edition was an impossibly\nexpensive fine press book from Cheap Street press. The copy I have is a\npaperback reprint thar came out many years later. Copies of that one\nshouldn't be too expensive.\n\nWorth having? I think so, but certainly not the main event.\n\nFernando\n\nPS: at the very first Readercon I had a chance to buy the Cheap Street\nversion for less than $200 at an auction and chickened out. Advice to young\nself: you'll regret not spending that money!\n\n\nOn Monday, March 17, 2014, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kierkegaurdian at gmail.com');>>\nwrote:"
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          "text": "--\nSent from Gmail Mobile\n\n_______________________________________________"
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        "name": "Antonin Scriabin",
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      "date": "2014-03-17T20:22:33+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Bibliomen",
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          "text": "Yeah, the Chap Books are pretty expensive.  I was lucky to find a fine copy\nof The Castle of the Otter for less than $10, but I don't think my luck\nwill last through to those other collections."
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          "text": "On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Fernando Gouvea <fqgouvea at colby.edu> wrote:\nThat sounds about right. The Cheap Street version, new, cost around $200,\nI think.\n\nLike you, I feel the need to have it all, but some things (those original\nCheap Street editions, some of Christmas-card-stories, ...) will forever\nremain a bridge too far. But I do haave both versions of the guide to the\nShambles...\n\nFernanfo\n\n\nOn Monday, March 17, 2014, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>\nwrote:"
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          "text": "It's not really a collection of stories, but rather of characters. Of\ncourse, in many cases describing a character makes for a mini-story.\n\nIt exists in two versions. The original edition was an impossibly\nexpensive fine press book from Cheap Street press. The copy I have is a\npaperback reprint thar came out many years later. Copies of that one\nshouldn't be too expensive.\n\nWorth having? I think so, but certainly not the main event.\n\nFernando\n\nPS: at the very first Readercon I had a chance to buy the Cheap Street\nversion for less than $200 at an auction and chickened out. Advice to young\nself: you'll regret not spending that money!\n\n\nOn Monday, March 17, 2014, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>\nwrote:"
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          "text": "Anyone here read it?  It seems hard to find / expensive.  Is it a\ncollection of short stories generally not available elsewhere?  Thanks!"
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          "text": "--\nSent from Gmail Mobile\n\n_______________________________________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Marc Aramini",
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      "date": "2014-03-17T20:53:08+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Bibliomen",
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          "text": "I am pretty sure I have everything save some of his essays.  Certainly everything listed as fiction.  Bibliomen isn't earth shattering but it's good fun.  The version published later is cheaper and had a few additional entries so get that one if you feel compelled.\n\nSent from my iPhone"
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          "text": "On Mar 17, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Fernando Gouvea <fqgouvea at colby.edu> wrote:\nThat sounds about right. The Cheap Street version, new, cost around $200, I think.\n\nLike you, I feel the need to have it all, but some things (those original Cheap Street editions, some of Christmas-card-stories, ...) will forever remain a bridge too far. But I do haave both versions of the guide to the Shambles...\n\nFernanfo\n\nOn Monday, March 17, 2014, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:"
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          "text": "It's not really a collection of stories, but rather of characters. Of course, in many cases describing a character makes for a mini-story.\n\nIt exists in two versions. The original edition was an impossibly expensive fine press book from Cheap Street press. The copy I have is a paperback reprint thar came out many years later. Copies of that one shouldn't be too expensive.\n\nWorth having? I think so, but certainly not the main event.\n\nFernando\n\nPS: at the very first Readercon I had a chance to buy the Cheap Street version for less than $200 at an auction and chickened out. Advice to young self: you'll regret not spending that money!\n\n\nOn Monday, March 17, 2014, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:"
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          "text": "Anyone here read it?  It seems hard to find / expensive.  Is it a collection of short stories generally not available elsewhere?  Thanks!"
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          "depth": 3,
          "text": "-- \nSent from Gmail Mobile\n\n_______________________________________________"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Darth Ed",
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      "date": "2014-03-27T18:42:23+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Bibliomen",
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          "text": "On Mar 17, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Antonin Scriabin wrote:\nAt this point I own all of Wolfe's novels (and a few extra copies of interest, signed or whatnot) and most of the short story collections, and I've reached the point where I feel compelled to collect what is left.  Thanks for the info!  I did find the less expensive version, they still go for about $40."
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          "text": "This is one I've been wanting to read for a long time. I keep hoping it'll get released as an ebook eventually, but that's a pipe dream, I guess. :-(\n\nLater,\nEd"
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      "date": "2014-03-27T20:21:01+00:00",
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          "text": "I once suggested someone should put together a book called /The Wolfe of \nCheap Street/ and collect all of the pieces that they put out in their \nspecial deluxe formats. But apparently there were too many copyright \nrestrictions. Most of them have now appeared in one or another of the \ncollections, of course. But I'd still by the book if someone made it.\n\nFernando"
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          "text": "This is one I've been wanting to read for a long time. I keep hoping it'll get released as an ebook eventually, but that's a pipe dream, I guess. :-(\n\nLater,\nEd\n\n\n_______________________________________________"
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