Meta: messages being dropped into Gmail spam folder

The Urth list — 13 messages, 9 voices, 28 Apr 2014
https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/6537

Gwern Branwen28 Apr 2014, 17:22
I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior?
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Dan'l Danehy-Oakes28 Apr 2014, 17:26

↳ in reply to Gwern Branwen

Yes. It's quite irritating, as Marc's posts are always worth reading!
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote: I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________
Fred Kiesche28 Apr 2014, 17:34

↳ in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes

I've been getting that as well. Several times gmail has asked me if I want to forward the message to their crack team to help "improve" things, but the e-mails keep getting dumped in there. Grrrr!!!
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com>wrote: Yes. It's quite irritating, as Marc's posts are always worth reading! On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote:
I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________ Urth Mailing List To post, write urth at urth.net Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
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Dimitar Nikolov28 Apr 2014, 17:52

↳ in reply to Fred Kiesche

Long time lurker here. I've noticed this too, and unfortunately it looks like gmail's spam filter has become more aggressive, since this has been happening with other messages for me. The solution is to set up a filter from Settings > Filters, such that messages sent to urth at lists.urth.net are never marked as spam. Hope this helps. Best, Dimitar
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Fred Kiesche <godelescherbach at gmail.com>wrote: I've been getting that as well. Several times gmail has asked me if I want to forward the message to their crack team to help "improve" things, but the e-mails keep getting dumped in there. Grrrr!!! On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com>wrote:
Yes. It's quite irritating, as Marc's posts are always worth reading! On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote:
I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________
António Pedro Marques28 Apr 2014, 23:28

↳ in reply to Dimitar Nikolov

I'm not sure that's enough - I have a filter to catch all Urth messages and send them to a Wolfe folder, and still it has happened a lot that I'm half way through one of Marc's messages and it disappears! It's those liberals, I tell you. Welcome! No dia 28/04/2014, ?s 18:52, Dimitar Nikolov <dimitar.g.nikolov at gmail.com> escreveu:
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Long time lurker here. I've noticed this too, and unfortunately it looks like gmail's spam filter has become more aggressive, since this has been happening with other messages for me. The solution is to set up a filter from Settings > Filters, such that messages sent to urth at lists.urth.net are never marked as spam. Hope this helps. Best, Dimitar On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Fred Kiesche <godelescherbach at gmail.com> wrote: I've been getting that as well. Several times gmail has asked me if I want to forward the message to their crack team to help "improve" things, but the e-mails keep getting dumped in there. Grrrr!!! On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com> wrote: Yes. It's quite irritating, as Marc's posts are always worth reading! On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote: I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________
Marc Aramini29 Apr 2014, 00:29

↳ in reply to Gwern Branwen

It's weird a lot of the urth messages go to spam on me so I just check the archive frequently. Last week it said all the bounces were going to deactivate my account from the urth list unless I reactivated it manually, which I did. Very bizarre. Maybe I should make an urth posting email from a new hosting email address Sent from my iPhone
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On Apr 28, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote: I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________
Dan Schmidt29 Apr 2014, 00:58

↳ in reply to Marc Aramini

This has been happening to me with multiple mailing lists, all through Yahoo. I'm no expert but I think that this post about Yahoo's recent changes may be relevant: http://rjbs.manxome.org/rubric/entry/2044
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote: It's weird a lot of the urth messages go to spam on me so I just check the archive frequently. Last week it said all the bounces were going to deactivate my account from the urth list unless I reactivated it manually, which I did. Very bizarre. Maybe I should make an urth posting email from a new hosting email address Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote:
I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________
Antonin Scriabin29 Apr 2014, 00:59

↳ in reply to Dan Schmidt

Now that you mention it, this has been happening with some threads on the Pynchon list serve too. Weird.
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On Apr 28, 2014 8:58 PM, "Dan Schmidt" <dfan at hamesucken.com> wrote: This has been happening to me with multiple mailing lists, all through Yahoo. I'm no expert but I think that this post about Yahoo's recent changes may be relevant: http://rjbs.manxome.org/rubric/entry/2044 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com>wrote:
It's weird a lot of the urth messages go to spam on me so I just check the archive frequently. Last week it said all the bounces were going to deactivate my account from the urth list unless I reactivated it manually, which I did. Very bizarre. Maybe I should make an urth posting email from a new hosting email address Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote:
I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________
Fred Kiesche29 Apr 2014, 10:43

↳ in reply to Antonin Scriabin

There's a Pynchon list server? I should have expected one!
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>wrote: Now that you mention it, this has been happening with some threads on the Pynchon list serve too. Weird. On Apr 28, 2014 8:58 PM, "Dan Schmidt" <dfan at hamesucken.com> wrote:
This has been happening to me with multiple mailing lists, all through Yahoo. I'm no expert but I think that this post about Yahoo's recent changes may be relevant: http://rjbs.manxome.org/rubric/entry/2044 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com>wrote:
It's weird a lot of the urth messages go to spam on me so I just check the archive frequently. Last week it said all the bounces were going to deactivate my account from the urth list unless I reactivated it manually, which I did. Very bizarre. Maybe I should make an urth posting email from a new hosting email address Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote:
I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________
Antonin Scriabin29 Apr 2014, 11:37

↳ in reply to Fred Kiesche

You should join! Fair warning, there are a TON of posts everyday.
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On Apr 29, 2014 6:43 AM, "Fred Kiesche" <godelescherbach at gmail.com> wrote: There's a Pynchon list server? I should have expected one! On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Antonin Scriabin < kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:
Now that you mention it, this has been happening with some threads on the Pynchon list serve too. Weird. On Apr 28, 2014 8:58 PM, "Dan Schmidt" <dfan at hamesucken.com> wrote:
This has been happening to me with multiple mailing lists, all through Yahoo. I'm no expert but I think that this post about Yahoo's recent changes may be relevant: http://rjbs.manxome.org/rubric/entry/2044 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com>wrote:
It's weird a lot of the urth messages go to spam on me so I just check the archive frequently. Last week it said all the bounces were going to deactivate my account from the urth list unless I reactivated it manually, which I did. Very bizarre. Maybe I should make an urth posting email from a new hosting email address Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote:
I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________ Urth Mailing List
Marc Aramini30 Apr 2014, 16:47

↳ in reply to Antonin Scriabin

Kind of surprised the Pynchon list is so populated and busy, though it seems more like the discussions there, when I just peeped, are more "off topic" quite a bit, to literature and cultural phenomena in general. ( Pynchon's little ditties and songs kind of get on my nerves. Never had patience for musicals outside of Fiddler on the Roof.) I hope in 50 years Wolfe has a real place in the academic pantheon.
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On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com>wrote: You should join! Fair warning, there are a TON of posts everyday. On Apr 29, 2014 6:43 AM, "Fred Kiesche" <godelescherbach at gmail.com> wrote:
There's a Pynchon list server? I should have expected one! On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Antonin Scriabin < kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:
Now that you mention it, this has been happening with some threads on the Pynchon list serve too. Weird. On Apr 28, 2014 8:58 PM, "Dan Schmidt" <dfan at hamesucken.com> wrote:
This has been happening to me with multiple mailing lists, all through Yahoo. I'm no expert but I think that this post about Yahoo's recent changes may be relevant: http://rjbs.manxome.org/rubric/entry/2044 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com>wrote:
It's weird a lot of the urth messages go to spam on me so I just check the archive frequently. Last week it said all the bounces were going to deactivate my account from the urth list unless I reactivated it manually, which I did. Very bizarre. Maybe I should make an urth posting email from a new hosting email address Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote:
I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________
Antonin Scriabin30 Apr 2014, 16:55

↳ in reply to Marc Aramini

"literature and cultural phenomena in general" This is the case for sure. About a third of the content there is Pynchon-specific, but then, he doesn't come out with a new novel all that often.
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On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com>wrote: Kind of surprised the Pynchon list is so populated and busy, though it seems more like the discussions there, when I just peeped, are more "off topic" quite a bit, to literature and cultural phenomena in general. ( Pynchon's little ditties and songs kind of get on my nerves. Never had patience for musicals outside of Fiddler on the Roof.) I hope in 50 years Wolfe has a real place in the academic pantheon. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Antonin Scriabin < kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:
You should join! Fair warning, there are a TON of posts everyday. On Apr 29, 2014 6:43 AM, "Fred Kiesche" <godelescherbach at gmail.com> wrote:
There's a Pynchon list server? I should have expected one! On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Antonin Scriabin < kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:
Now that you mention it, this has been happening with some threads on the Pynchon list serve too. Weird. On Apr 28, 2014 8:58 PM, "Dan Schmidt" <dfan at hamesucken.com> wrote:
This has been happening to me with multiple mailing lists, all through Yahoo. I'm no expert but I think that this post about Yahoo's recent changes may be relevant: http://rjbs.manxome.org/rubric/entry/2044 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com>wrote:
It's weird a lot of the urth messages go to spam on me so I just check the archive frequently. Last week it said all the bounces were going to deactivate my account from the urth list unless I reactivated it manually, which I did. Very bizarre. Maybe I should make an urth posting email from a new hosting email address Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote:
I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________
Marc Aramini30 Apr 2014, 16:55

↳ in reply to Marc Aramini

I think I am going to unsubscribe my yahoo account ... but fear not. I am with you always, to the very end of the age.
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On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at gmail.com> wrote: Kind of surprised the Pynchon list is so populated and busy, though it seems more like the discussions there, when I just peeped, are more "off topic" quite a bit, to literature and cultural phenomena in general. ( Pynchon's little ditties and songs kind of get on my nerves. Never had patience for musicals outside of Fiddler on the Roof.) I hope in 50 years Wolfe has a real place in the academic pantheon. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Antonin Scriabin < kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:
You should join! Fair warning, there are a TON of posts everyday. On Apr 29, 2014 6:43 AM, "Fred Kiesche" <godelescherbach at gmail.com> wrote:
There's a Pynchon list server? I should have expected one! On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Antonin Scriabin < kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote:
Now that you mention it, this has been happening with some threads on the Pynchon list serve too. Weird. On Apr 28, 2014 8:58 PM, "Dan Schmidt" <dfan at hamesucken.com> wrote:
This has been happening to me with multiple mailing lists, all through Yahoo. I'm no expert but I think that this post about Yahoo's recent changes may be relevant: http://rjbs.manxome.org/rubric/entry/2044 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com>wrote:
It's weird a lot of the urth messages go to spam on me so I just check the archive frequently. Last week it said all the bounces were going to deactivate my account from the urth list unless I reactivated it manually, which I did. Very bizarre. Maybe I should make an urth posting email from a new hosting email address Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern at gwern.net> wrote:
I've noticed over the past few weeks that Urth.net emails from Yahoo.com users (such as Marc Aramini) seem to be regularly dropping into my spam folder despite me always marking them non-spam. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior? -- gwern http://www.gwern.net _______________________________________________

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