# short story project so far *The Urth list — 29 messages, 16 voices, 31 Jul 2014* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Marc Aramini *31 Jul 2014, 17:36* Well, I am about 33 percent done with Wolfe's published stories after this next one, "The Doctor of Death Island" ... I plan on skipping two numbers and returning to "The Eyeflash Miracles" and "Seven American Nights" after I consider them a bit more. I would really like to tear through the 80s more quickly than the 70s, and it should be possible since Wolfe's time on long novels and series vastly reduced the length and allusive depth of his short fiction. ... However, I feel that 7 American Nights and probably Cabin on the Coast in the early 80s marked a shift away from SF tropes to more fantastic ones, which are a bit less easy to mark "objectively" - some stories might actually have unresolvable mysteries, though I don't think anything written before 1980 actually does. The write-ups I feel are least satisfactory are "The Green Wall Said", "The Blue Mouse", "Paul's Treehouse" - though I think the garment district uprising in "A Criminal Proceeding" and mentioned briefly in "Operation ARES" can explain who is actually rioting in that story, "Hour of Trust" (what is the name of the company running everything, whose symbol is gold stamped instruments? That write up gave me more problems than you would think) "The Island of Doctor Death an Other Stories", and perhaps the Thag stories. I am most satisfied with "The Changeling", "Many Mansions" - (those houses are luring people in and are merely dressed up as familiar, tempting human houses with mimicry, and might even be planting something, human-alien symbiotic style, inside people through the strong drink), "The HORARS of War", and "Trip, Trap" write ups. I already know exactly what type of essays I will be finishing up on Long Sun, Latro, and Home Fires, but the rest will take some time and I might not return to New Sun until the majority of the short fiction and shorter novels are done. All considered the project might be close to 2,000 pages or so when I am done. Of course it would need hefty revision and citation, but lately I have considered perhaps trying to publish it upon completion - short essays on the long fiction in front which would be my own thesis based developments, not comprehensive looks at all, and the story analysis section after that. A traditional publisher would never touch it, I imagine, and it would be far too big for a small or university press, but perhaps an ebook would work. Anyone think that would be viable? Should I even, say, try to split it in half? Just thought I would see what you guys thought, as this has been a WHOLE lot of work, even though I love it. --- ### Greg Bates *01 Aug 2014, 01:03 · in reply to Marc Aramini* All I can say is that I've really enjoyed reading this series so far, and I'd be all for putting it in a book format! > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Marc Aramini wrote: > Well, I am about 33 percent done with Wolfe's published stories after this > next one, "The Doctor of Death Island" ... I plan on skipping two numbers > and returning to "The Eyeflash Miracles" and "Seven American Nights" after > I consider them a bit more. > > I would really like to tear through the 80s more quickly than the 70s, and > it should be possible since Wolfe's time on long novels and series vastly > reduced the length and allusive depth of his short fiction. ... However, I > feel that 7 American Nights and probably Cabin on the Coast in the early > 80s marked a shift away from SF tropes to more fantastic ones, which are a > bit less easy to mark "objectively" - some stories might actually have > unresolvable mysteries, though I don't think anything written before 1980 > actually does. > > The write-ups I feel are least satisfactory are "The Green Wall Said", > "The Blue Mouse", "Paul's Treehouse" - though I think the garment district > uprising in "A Criminal Proceeding" and mentioned briefly in "Operation > ARES" can explain who is actually rioting in that story, "Hour of Trust" > (what is the name of the company running everything, whose symbol is gold > stamped instruments? That write up gave me more problems than you would > think) "The Island of Doctor Death an Other Stories", and perhaps the Thag > stories. > > I am most satisfied with "The Changeling", "Many Mansions" - (those houses > are luring people in and are merely dressed up as familiar, tempting human > houses with mimicry, and might even be planting something, human-alien > symbiotic style, inside people through the strong drink), "The HORARS of > War", and "Trip, Trap" write ups. > > I already know exactly what type of essays I will be finishing up on Long > Sun, Latro, and Home Fires, but the rest will take some time and I might > not return to New Sun until the majority of the short fiction and shorter > novels are done. > > All considered the project might be close to 2,000 pages or so when I am > done. > Of course it would need hefty revision and citation, but lately I have > considered perhaps trying to publish it upon completion - short essays on > the long fiction in front which would be my own thesis based developments, > not comprehensive looks at all, and the story analysis section after that. > A traditional publisher would never touch it, I imagine, and it would be > far too big for a small or university press, but perhaps an ebook would > work. Anyone think that would be viable? Should I even, say, try to split > it in half? Just thought I would see what you guys thought, as this has > been a WHOLE lot of work, even though I love it. > > _______________________________________________ --- ### Marc Aramini *01 Aug 2014, 05:13 · in reply to Greg Bates* Thanks Greg I appreciate it! > On Thursday, July 31, 2014, Greg Bates wrote: > All I can say is that I've really enjoyed reading this series so far, and > I'd be all for putting it in a book format! > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Marc Aramini > wrote: >> Well, I am about 33 percent done with Wolfe's published stories after >> this next one, "The Doctor of Death Island" ... I plan on skipping two >> numbers and returning to "The Eyeflash Miracles" and "Seven American >> Nights" after I consider them a bit more. >> >> I would really like to tear through the 80s more quickly than the 70s, >> and it should be possible since Wolfe's time on long novels and series >> vastly reduced the length and allusive depth of his short fiction. ... >> However, I feel that 7 American Nights and probably Cabin on the Coast in >> the early 80s marked a shift away from SF tropes to more fantastic ones, >> which are a bit less easy to mark "objectively" - some stories might >> actually have unresolvable mysteries, though I don't think anything written >> before 1980 actually does. >> >> The write-ups I feel are least satisfactory are "The Green Wall Said", >> "The Blue Mouse", "Paul's Treehouse" - though I think the garment district >> uprising in "A Criminal Proceeding" and mentioned briefly in "Operation >> ARES" can explain who is actually rioting in that story, "Hour of Trust" >> (what is the name of the company running everything, whose symbol is gold >> stamped instruments? That write up gave me more problems than you would >> think) "The Island of Doctor Death an Other Stories", and perhaps the Thag >> stories. >> >> I am most satisfied with "The Changeling", "Many Mansions" - (those >> houses are luring people in and are merely dressed up as familiar, tempting >> human houses with mimicry, and might even be planting something, >> human-alien symbiotic style, inside people through the strong drink), "The >> HORARS of War", and "Trip, Trap" write ups. >> >> I already know exactly what type of essays I will be finishing up on Long >> Sun, Latro, and Home Fires, but the rest will take some time and I might >> not return to New Sun until the majority of the short fiction and shorter >> novels are done. >> >> All considered the project might be close to 2,000 pages or so when I am >> done. >> Of course it would need hefty revision and citation, but lately I have >> considered perhaps trying to publish it upon completion - short essays on >> the long fiction in front which would be my own thesis based developments, >> not comprehensive looks at all, and the story analysis section after that. >> A traditional publisher would never touch it, I imagine, and it would be >> far too big for a small or university press, but perhaps an ebook would >> work. Anyone think that would be viable? Should I even, say, try to split >> it in half? Just thought I would see what you guys thought, as this has >> been a WHOLE lot of work, even though I love it. >> >> _______________________________________________ --- ### Mo Holkar *01 Aug 2014, 08:00 · in reply to Marc Aramini* > At 18:36 31/07/2014, Marc wrote: > Of course it would need hefty revision and > citation, but lately I have considered perhaps > trying to publish it upon completion - short > essays on the long fiction in front which would > be my own thesis based? developments, not? > comprehensive looks at all, and the story > analysis section after that. A traditional > publisher would never touch it, I imagine, and > it would be far too big for a small or > university press, but perhaps an ebook would > work. Anyone think that would be > viable? Should I even, say, try to split it in > half? Just thought I would see what you guys > thought, as this has been a WHOLE lot of work, even though I love it. I think if it was me I would make it available print-on-demand as well as ebook. It's an extra chunk of work to prepare the files, but not a huge one compared to the project as a whole. (I would buy a printed version but probably wouldn't buy an ebook version, and I don't suppose I'm alone in that.) I don't know where you were thinking of selling the ebook, but some outlets make it fairly easy to sell POD and ebook versions in parallel. Either way though you're probably not going to sell a huge number of copies, or make enough money to contribute significantly to the time you'll have spent. But definition of 'viable' for a labour of love like this may be quite a low hurdle: would a thousand or so sales make you feel it was worth the effort? best, Mo --- ### Mark Lewin *01 Aug 2014, 08:19 · in reply to Marc Aramini* +1 for a print-on-demand version for my Wolfe shelf :) It's been a great series and has really added to my enjoyment of the stories themselves. Good job, Marc! > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014, at 09:00 AM, Mo Holkar wrote: > At 18:36 31/07/2014, Marc wrote: >> Of course it would need hefty revision and >> citation, but lately I have considered perhaps >> trying to publish it upon completion - short >> essays on the long fiction in front which would >> be my own thesis based? developments, not? >> comprehensive looks at all, and the story >> analysis section after that. A traditional >> publisher would never touch it, I imagine, and >> it would be far too big for a small or >> university press, but perhaps an ebook would >> work. Anyone think that would be >> viable? Should I even, say, try to split it in >> half? Just thought I would see what you guys >> thought, as this has been a WHOLE lot of work, even though I love it. > I think if it was me I would make it available > print-on-demand as well as ebook. It's an extra > chunk of work to prepare the files, but not a > huge one compared to the project as a whole. (I > would buy a printed version but probably wouldn't > buy an ebook version, and I don't suppose I'm > alone in that.) I don't know where you were > thinking of selling the ebook, but some outlets > make it fairly easy to sell POD and ebook versions in parallel. > > Either way though you're probably not going to > sell a huge number of copies, or make enough > money to contribute significantly to the time > you'll have spent. But definition of 'viable' for > a labour of love like this may be quite a low > hurdle: would a thousand or so sales make you feel it was worth the > effort? > > best, > > Mo > > _______________________________________________ --- ### Daniel Otto Jack Petersen *01 Aug 2014, 11:12 · in reply to Greg Bates* Marc, I haven't been able to do more than peruse a handful of the story commentaries you've posted here, but I've thoroughly enjoyed what I perused. I would read a printed book of them post-haste and with pleasure! -DOJP > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Greg Bates > wrote: > All I can say is that I've really enjoyed reading this series so far, and > I'd be all for putting it in a book format! > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Marc Aramini > wrote: >> Well, I am about 33 percent done with Wolfe's published stories after >> this next one, "The Doctor of Death Island" ... I plan on skipping two >> numbers and returning to "The Eyeflash Miracles" and "Seven American >> Nights" after I consider them a bit more. >> >> I would really like to tear through the 80s more quickly than the 70s, >> and it should be possible since Wolfe's time on long novels and series >> vastly reduced the length and allusive depth of his short fiction. ... >> However, I feel that 7 American Nights and probably Cabin on the Coast in >> the early 80s marked a shift away from SF tropes to more fantastic ones, >> which are a bit less easy to mark "objectively" - some stories might >> actually have unresolvable mysteries, though I don't think anything written >> before 1980 actually does. >> >> The write-ups I feel are least satisfactory are "The Green Wall Said", >> "The Blue Mouse", "Paul's Treehouse" - though I think the garment district >> uprising in "A Criminal Proceeding" and mentioned briefly in "Operation >> ARES" can explain who is actually rioting in that story, "Hour of Trust" >> (what is the name of the company running everything, whose symbol is gold >> stamped instruments? That write up gave me more problems than you would >> think) "The Island of Doctor Death an Other Stories", and perhaps the Thag >> stories. >> >> I am most satisfied with "The Changeling", "Many Mansions" - (those >> houses are luring people in and are merely dressed up as familiar, tempting >> human houses with mimicry, and might even be planting something, >> human-alien symbiotic style, inside people through the strong drink), "The >> HORARS of War", and "Trip, Trap" write ups. >> >> I already know exactly what type of essays I will be finishing up on Long >> Sun, Latro, and Home Fires, but the rest will take some time and I might >> not return to New Sun until the majority of the short fiction and shorter >> novels are done. >> >> All considered the project might be close to 2,000 pages or so when I am >> done. >> Of course it would need hefty revision and citation, but lately I have >> considered perhaps trying to publish it upon completion - short essays on >> the long fiction in front which would be my own thesis based developments, >> not comprehensive looks at all, and the story analysis section after that. >> A traditional publisher would never touch it, I imagine, and it would be >> far too big for a small or university press, but perhaps an ebook would >> work. Anyone think that would be viable? Should I even, say, try to split >> it in half? Just thought I would see what you guys thought, as this has >> been a WHOLE lot of work, even though I love it. >> >> _______________________________________________ --- ### Piotr Szczęsny *01 Aug 2014, 11:16 · in reply to Marc Aramini* If you are going to ship internationally, I'm down for a copy ;). Also Marc, did you compiled a list of all Wolfe short stories? If you did, could you share it, would be great to have it and cross off read stories :). 31 lip 2014 19:36 "Marc Aramini" napisa?(a): > Well, I am about 33 percent done with Wolfe's published stories after this > next one, "The Doctor of Death Island" ... I plan on skipping two numbers > and returning to "The Eyeflash Miracles" and "Seven American Nights" after > I consider them a bit more. > > I would really like to tear through the 80s more quickly than the 70s, and > it should be possible since Wolfe's time on long novels and series vastly > reduced the length and allusive depth of his short fiction. ... However, I > feel that 7 American Nights and probably Cabin on the Coast in the early > 80s marked a shift away from SF tropes to more fantastic ones, which are a > bit less easy to mark "objectively" - some stories might actually have > unresolvable mysteries, though I don't think anything written before 1980 > actually does. > > The write-ups I feel are least satisfactory are "The Green Wall Said", > "The Blue Mouse", "Paul's Treehouse" - though I think the garment district > uprising in "A Criminal Proceeding" and mentioned briefly in "Operation > ARES" can explain who is actually rioting in that story, "Hour of Trust" > (what is the name of the company running everything, whose symbol is gold > stamped instruments? That write up gave me more problems than you would > think) "The Island of Doctor Death an Other Stories", and perhaps the Thag > stories. > > I am most satisfied with "The Changeling", "Many Mansions" - (those houses > are luring people in and are merely dressed up as familiar, tempting human > houses with mimicry, and might even be planting something, human-alien > symbiotic style, inside people through the strong drink), "The HORARS of > War", and "Trip, Trap" write ups. > > I already know exactly what type of essays I will be finishing up on Long > Sun, Latro, and Home Fires, but the rest will take some time and I might > not return to New Sun until the majority of the short fiction and shorter > novels are done. > > All considered the project might be close to 2,000 pages or so when I am > done. > Of course it would need hefty revision and citation, but lately I have > considered perhaps trying to publish it upon completion - short essays on > the long fiction in front which would be my own thesis based developments, > not comprehensive looks at all, and the story analysis section after that. > A traditional publisher would never touch it, I imagine, and it would be > far too big for a small or university press, but perhaps an ebook would > work. Anyone think that would be viable? Should I even, say, try to split > it in half? Just thought I would see what you guys thought, as this has > been a WHOLE lot of work, even though I love it. > > _______________________________________________ --- ### David Stockhoff *01 Aug 2014, 12:31 · in reply to Daniel Otto Jack Petersen* I'm in the same boat. What I need is a handy Aramini desk reference! > On 8/1/2014 7:12 AM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen wrote: > Marc, I haven't been able to do more than peruse a handful of the > story commentaries you've posted here, but I've thoroughly enjoyed > what I perused. > > I would read a printed book of them post-haste and with pleasure! > > -DOJP > > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Greg Bates > wrote: > > All I can say is that I've really enjoyed reading this series so > far, and I'd be all for putting it in a book format! > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Marc Aramini > > wrote: > > Well, I am about 33 percent done with Wolfe's published > stories after this next one, "The Doctor of Death Island" ... > I plan on skipping two numbers and returning to "The Eyeflash > Miracles" and "Seven American Nights" after I consider them a > bit more. > > I would really like to tear through the 80s more quickly than > the 70s, and it should be possible since Wolfe's time on long > novels and series vastly reduced the length and allusive depth > of his short fiction. ... However, I feel that 7 American > Nights and probably Cabin on the Coast in the early 80s marked > a shift away from SF tropes to more fantastic ones, which are > a bit less easy to mark "objectively" - some stories might > actually have unresolvable mysteries, though I don't think > anything written before 1980 actually does. > > The write-ups I feel are least satisfactory are "The Green > Wall Said", "The Blue Mouse", "Paul's Treehouse" - though I > think the garment district uprising in "A Criminal Proceeding" > and mentioned briefly in "Operation ARES" can explain who is > actually rioting in that story, "Hour of Trust" (what is the > name of the company running everything, whose symbol is gold > stamped instruments? That write up gave me more problems than > you would think) "The Island of Doctor Death an Other > Stories", and perhaps the Thag stories. > > I am most satisfied with "The Changeling", "Many Mansions" - > (those houses are luring people in and are merely dressed up > as familiar, tempting human houses with mimicry, and might > even be planting something, human-alien symbiotic > style, inside people through the strong drink), "The HORARS of > War", and "Trip, Trap" write ups. > > I already know exactly what type of essays I will be finishing > up on Long Sun, Latro, and Home Fires, but the rest will take > some time and I might not return to New Sun until the majority > of the short fiction and shorter novels are done. > > All considered the project might be close to 2,000 pages or so > when I am done. > Of course it would need hefty revision and citation, but > lately I have considered perhaps trying to publish it upon > completion - short essays on the long fiction in front which > would be my own thesis based developments, not comprehensive > looks at all, and the story analysis section after that. A > traditional publisher would never touch it, I imagine, and it > would be far too big for a small or university press, but > perhaps an ebook would work. Anyone think that would be > viable? Should I even, say, try to split it in half? Just > thought I would see what you guys thought, as this has been a > WHOLE lot of work, even though I love it. > > _______________________________________________ --- ### Mo Holkar *01 Aug 2014, 14:13 · in reply to Piotr Szczęsny* > At 12:16 01/08/2014, Piotr wrote: > If you are going to ship internationally, I'm down for a copy ;). > Also Marc, did you compiled a list of all Wolfe short stories? If > you did, could you share it, would be great to have it and cross off > read stories :). You can find such a list on the WolfeWiki: http://www.wolfewiki.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=WolfeWiki.StoriesListByDate best, Mo --- ### Marc Aramini *01 Aug 2014, 14:18 · in reply to David Stockhoff* Thanks for the support, guys! > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:31 AM, David Stockhoff > wrote: > I'm in the same boat. What I need is a handy Aramini desk reference! > > > On 8/1/2014 7:12 AM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen wrote: > > Marc, I haven't been able to do more than peruse a handful of the story > commentaries you've posted here, but I've thoroughly enjoyed what I > perused. > > I would read a printed book of them post-haste and with pleasure! > > -DOJP > > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Greg Bates > wrote: >> All I can say is that I've really enjoyed reading this series so far, and >> I'd be all for putting it in a book format! >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Marc Aramini >> wrote: >>> Well, I am about 33 percent done with Wolfe's published stories after >>> this next one, "The Doctor of Death Island" ... I plan on skipping two >>> numbers and returning to "The Eyeflash Miracles" and "Seven American >>> Nights" after I consider them a bit more. >>> >>> I would really like to tear through the 80s more quickly than the 70s, >>> and it should be possible since Wolfe's time on long novels and series >>> vastly reduced the length and allusive depth of his short fiction. ... >>> However, I feel that 7 American Nights and probably Cabin on the Coast in >>> the early 80s marked a shift away from SF tropes to more fantastic ones, >>> which are a bit less easy to mark "objectively" - some stories might >>> actually have unresolvable mysteries, though I don't think anything written >>> before 1980 actually does. >>> >>> The write-ups I feel are least satisfactory are "The Green Wall Said", >>> "The Blue Mouse", "Paul's Treehouse" - though I think the garment district >>> uprising in "A Criminal Proceeding" and mentioned briefly in "Operation >>> ARES" can explain who is actually rioting in that story, "Hour of Trust" >>> (what is the name of the company running everything, whose symbol is gold >>> stamped instruments? That write up gave me more problems than you would >>> think) "The Island of Doctor Death an Other Stories", and perhaps the Thag >>> stories. >>> >>> I am most satisfied with "The Changeling", "Many Mansions" - (those >>> houses are luring people in and are merely dressed up as familiar, tempting >>> human houses with mimicry, and might even be planting something, >>> human-alien symbiotic style, inside people through the strong drink), "The >>> HORARS of War", and "Trip, Trap" write ups. >>> >>> I already know exactly what type of essays I will be finishing up on >>> Long Sun, Latro, and Home Fires, but the rest will take some time and I >>> might not return to New Sun until the majority of the short fiction and >>> shorter novels are done. >>> >>> All considered the project might be close to 2,000 pages or so when I am >>> done. >>> Of course it would need hefty revision and citation, but lately I have >>> considered perhaps trying to publish it upon completion - short essays on >>> the long fiction in front which would be my own thesis based developments, >>> not comprehensive looks at all, and the story analysis section after that. >>> A traditional publisher would never touch it, I imagine, and it would be >>> far too big for a small or university press, but perhaps an ebook would >>> work. Anyone think that would be viable? Should I even, say, try to split >>> it in half? Just thought I would see what you guys thought, as this has >>> been a WHOLE lot of work, even though I love it. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ --- ### Marc Aramini *01 Aug 2014, 14:21 · in reply to Marc Aramini* Here is the list compiled from the wolfe wiki with doubled stories removed and with a few missing ones added in. X Easter Sunday X1951. The Case of the Vanishing Ghost X1951. The Grave Secret X1965. The Dead Man X1966. Mountains Like Mice X1967. Screen Test X1967. The Green Wall Said X1967. Trip, Trap X1967. Volksweapon X1968. House of Ancestors X1968. The Changeling X1969. Paul's Treehouse X1970. A Method Bit in "B" X1970. Car Sinister X1970. Eyebem X1970. How the Whip Came Back X1970. King Under the Mountain X1970. Morning-Glory X1970. Of Relays and Roses X1970. Remembrance to Come X1970. Sonya, Crane Wessleman, and Kittee X1970. The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories X1970. The Packerhaus Method X1970. The HORARS of War X1970. Thou Spark of Blood X1970 Operation Ares X1971. Slaves of Silver X1971. Sweet Forest Maid X1971. The Blue Mouse X1971. The Toy Theater X1971. Three Million Square Miles X1972. "A Story" by John V. Marsch X1972. Against the Lafayette Escadrille X1972. Alien Stones X1972. Beech Hill X1972. It's Very Clean X1972. Loco Parentis X1972. Mathoms from the Time Closet X1972. Robot's Story X1972. Tarzan of the Grapes X1972. The Fifth Head of Cerberus X1972. The Headless Man X1972. The Recording X1972. V. R. T. X1973. An Article About Hunting X1973. Beautyland X1973. Continuing Westward X1973. Feather Tigers X1973. Going to the Beach X1973. Hour of Trust X1973. How I Lost the Second World War and Helped Turn Back the German Invasion X1973. La Befana X1973. Peritonitis X1973. The Death of Dr. Island X1973. Westwind X1974. Cues X1974. From the Notebook of Dr. Stein X1974. Melting X1974. The Dark of the June X1974. The Death of Hyle X1974. The Rubber Bend 1974. Forlesen X1975 Peace X1975. Civis Laputus Sum X1975. St. Brandon (Excerpt) X1975. Straw X1975. Thag X1975. The Hero as Werwolf X1975. When I Was Ming the Merciless X1975. Tracking Song X1975. Silhouette X1976 Devil in a Forest 1976. The Eyeflash Miracles X1976. Three Fingers X1977. Many Mansions X1977. The Marvelous Brass Chessplaying Automaton X1977. To the Dark Tower Came X1978. Our Neighbour by David Copperfield 1978. Seven American Nights 1978. The Doctor of Death Island X1979. The Woman Who Loved the Centaur Pholus X1979. War Beneath the Tree X1980. A Criminal Proceeding 1980. In Looking-Glass Castle 1980. Kevin Malone 1980. Suzanne Delage 1980. The Adopted Father 1980. The Detective of Dreams 1980. The God and His Man THE BOOK OF THE NEW SUN 1981. A Cabin on the Coast X1981. The Tale of the Student and His Son X1981. The Woman the Unicorn Loved 1981. Date Due 1982. Cherry Jubilee X1982. Folia's Story: The Armiger's Daughter 1982. Last Day 1982. My Book 1982. The Last Thrilling Wonder Story 1983. A Solar Labyrinth 1983. Creation 1983. Death of the Island Doctor 1983. The River 1983. From the Desk of Gilmer C. Merton 1983. At the Volcano's Lip 1983. In the Mountains 1983. In the Old Hotel 1983. On the Train 1983. The Cat 1983 Love Among The Corridors 1984 Bibliomen 1984. Redbeard 1984. The Map 1985. The Boy Who Hooked the Sun 1985. The Green Rabbit from S'Rian 1985. The Nebraskan and the Nereid X1985. The Woman Who Went Out X1985. FREE LIVE FREE 1986. Checking Out 1986. Choice of the Black Goddess 1986. The Peace Spy 1987. All the Hues of Hell 1987. Empires of Foliage and Flower 1987. In the House of Gingerbread 1987. Parkroads: A Review 1987. The Arimaspian Legacy 1987. The Most Beautiful Woman on the World 1987. The Other Dead Man SOLDIER SERIES THERE ARE DOORS 1988. Alphabet 1988. At the Point of Capricorn 1988. Game in the Pope's Head 1988. Houston, 1943 1988. Lukora 1988. Read Me 1988. Sightings at Twin Mounds 1988. The Flag 1988. The Tale of the Rose and the Nightingale (And What Came of It) 1989. How the Bishop Sailed to Inniskeen 1989. Slow Children at Play 1989. The Friendship Light 1989. The Tale of the Four Accused PANDORA BY HOLLY HOLLANDER CASTLEVIEW 1990. Lord of the Land 1990. The Haunted Boardinghouse 1990. The Monday Man 1991. The Old Woman Whose Rolling Pin Is the Sun 1991. The Seraph From Its Sepulcher X1992. The Largest Luger X1992. The Last Casualty of Cambrai 1992. The Legend of Xi Cygnus 1992. The Sailor Who Sailed After the Sun 1993. And When They Appear 1993. Useful Phrases 1994. Queen of the Night BOOK OF THE LONG SUN 1995. The Death of Koshchei the Deathless 1995. The Ziggurat 1996. Ain't You 'Most Done? 1996. Bed And Breakfast 1996. Bluesberry Jam 1996. Counting Cats in Zanzibar 1996. One Two Three for Me 1996. The Man in the Pepper Mill 1996. To the Seventh 1996. Try and Kill It 1997. Flash Company 1997. No Planets Strike 1997. Petting Zoo 1997. Wolfer 1998. The Night Chough 1998. The Wrapper 1999. A Fish Story 1999. A Traveler in Desert Lands 1999. Has Anybody Seen Junie Moon? 1999. How I Got Three Zip Codes 1999. The Tree Is My Hat 1999. The Walking Sticks BOOK OF THE SHORT SUN 2000. Pocketsful of Diamonds 2000. The Eleventh City 2000. The Fat Magician 2001. Copperhead 2001. In Glory Like Their Star 2001. Queen 2001. Viewpoint 2002. From the Cradle 2002. Mute 2002. Shields of Mars 2002. The Dog of the Drops 2002. The Waif 2002. Under Hill 2002. A Walking Tour of the Shambles 2003. Black Shoes 2003. My Name is Nancy Wood 2003. Calamity Warps 2003. Castaway 2003. Graylord Man's Last Words 2003. Hunter Lake 2003. Of Soil And Climate 2003. Talk of Mandrakes 2003. The Lost Pilgrim 2004. Golden City Far 2004. Monster 2004. Prize Crew 2004. Pulp Cover 2004. Rattler 2004. The Little Stranger 2005. Comber 2005. The Card 2005. The Gunner's Mate 2005. The Vampire Kiss 2005. Christmas Inn WIZARD KNIGHT 2006. Bea and Her Bird Brother 2006. On a Vacant Face a Bruise 2006. Sob in the Silence 2006. The On-Deck Circle 2006. Build-A-Bear 2006. Six from Atlantis 2006. The Old Woman in the Young Woman 2007. Green Glass 2007. Memorare 2007. The Hour of the Sheep 2007. The Magic Animal 2007. Unrequited Love PIRATE FREEDOM 2009. Donovan Sent Us 2009 Last Drink Bird Head EVIL GUEST 2010. Bloodsport 2010. Innocent 2010. Josh 2010. King Rat 2010. Leif in the Wind SORCERER’S HOUSE 2011. Why I Was Hanged 2011. Planetarium in Orbit 2011 The Giant HOME FIRES 2012. Dormanna 2012 Lithosphere Whale 2013 Uncaged 2013 Frost Free 2013 Sea of Memory THE LAND ACROSS --- ### Nessun Saprà *01 Aug 2014, 15:34 · in reply to Marc Aramini* Good list, Marc. I have some slightly different publication dates in mine (which I have to check again). I am missing "Kid Sister", "A visit from his confidant" and "Dumpster World", though. Since the Bibliomen editions are different, you might include "Captain Roy" and "Seaman" which are only in the 1995 edition. And I am not sure about "Last Drink Bird Head". Wasn’t that the title of the whole volume? Best, Nessuno -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] Im Auftrag von Marc Aramini Gesendet: Freitag, 1. August 2014 16:21 An: The Urth Mailing List Betreff: Re: (urth) short story project so far Here is the list compiled from the wolfe wiki with doubled stories removed and with a few missing ones added in. X Easter Sunday X1951. The Case of the Vanishing Ghost X1951. The Grave Secret X1965. The Dead Man X1966. Mountains Like Mice X1967. Screen Test X1967. The Green Wall Said X1967. Trip, Trap X1967. Volksweapon X1968. House of Ancestors X1968. The Changeling X1969. Paul's Treehouse X1970. A Method Bit in "B" X1970. Car Sinister X1970. Eyebem X1970. How the Whip Came Back X1970. King Under the Mountain X1970. Morning-Glory X1970. Of Relays and Roses X1970. Remembrance to Come X1970. Sonya, Crane Wessleman, and Kittee X1970. The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories X1970. The Packerhaus Method X1970. The HORARS of War X1970. Thou Spark of Blood X1970 Operation Ares X1971. Slaves of Silver X1971. Sweet Forest Maid X1971. The Blue Mouse X1971. The Toy Theater X1971. Three Million Square Miles X1972. "A Story" by John V. Marsch X1972. Against the Lafayette Escadrille X1972. Alien Stones X1972. Beech Hill X1972. It's Very Clean X1972. Loco Parentis X1972. Mathoms from the Time Closet X1972. Robot's Story X1972. Tarzan of the Grapes X1972. The Fifth Head of Cerberus X1972. The Headless Man X1972. The Recording X1972. V. R. T. X1973. An Article About Hunting X1973. Beautyland X1973. Continuing Westward X1973. Feather Tigers X1973. Going to the Beach X1973. Hour of Trust X1973. How I Lost the Second World War and Helped Turn Back the German Invasion X1973. La Befana X1973. Peritonitis X1973. The Death of Dr. Island X1973. Westwind X1974. Cues X1974. From the Notebook of Dr. Stein X1974. Melting X1974. The Dark of the June X1974. The Death of Hyle X1974. The Rubber Bend 1974. Forlesen X1975 Peace X1975. Civis Laputus Sum X1975. St. Brandon (Excerpt) X1975. Straw X1975. Thag X1975. The Hero as Werwolf X1975. When I Was Ming the Merciless X1975. Tracking Song X1975. Silhouette X1976 Devil in a Forest 1976. The Eyeflash Miracles X1976. Three Fingers X1977. Many Mansions X1977. The Marvelous Brass Chessplaying Automaton X1977. To the Dark Tower Came X1978. Our Neighbour by David Copperfield 1978. Seven American Nights 1978. The Doctor of Death Island X1979. The Woman Who Loved the Centaur Pholus X1979. War Beneath the Tree X1980. A Criminal Proceeding 1980. In Looking-Glass Castle 1980. Kevin Malone 1980. Suzanne Delage 1980. The Adopted Father 1980. The Detective of Dreams 1980. The God and His Man THE BOOK OF THE NEW SUN 1981. A Cabin on the Coast X1981. The Tale of the Student and His Son X1981. The Woman the Unicorn Loved 1981. Date Due 1982. Cherry Jubilee X1982. Folia's Story: The Armiger's Daughter 1982. Last Day 1982. My Book 1982. The Last Thrilling Wonder Story 1983. A Solar Labyrinth 1983. Creation 1983. Death of the Island Doctor 1983. The River 1983. From the Desk of Gilmer C. Merton 1983. At the Volcano's Lip 1983. In the Mountains 1983. In the Old Hotel 1983. On the Train 1983. The Cat 1983 Love Among The Corridors 1984 Bibliomen 1984. Redbeard 1984. The Map 1985. The Boy Who Hooked the Sun 1985. The Green Rabbit from S'Rian 1985. The Nebraskan and the Nereid X1985. The Woman Who Went Out X1985. FREE LIVE FREE 1986. Checking Out 1986. Choice of the Black Goddess 1986. The Peace Spy 1987. All the Hues of Hell 1987. Empires of Foliage and Flower 1987. In the House of Gingerbread 1987. Parkroads: A Review 1987. The Arimaspian Legacy 1987. The Most Beautiful Woman on the World 1987. The Other Dead Man SOLDIER SERIES THERE ARE DOORS 1988. Alphabet 1988. At the Point of Capricorn 1988. Game in the Pope's Head 1988. Houston, 1943 1988. Lukora 1988. Read Me 1988. Sightings at Twin Mounds 1988. The Flag 1988. The Tale of the Rose and the Nightingale (And What Came of It) 1989. How the Bishop Sailed to Inniskeen 1989. Slow Children at Play 1989. The Friendship Light 1989. The Tale of the Four Accused PANDORA BY HOLLY HOLLANDER CASTLEVIEW 1990. Lord of the Land 1990. The Haunted Boardinghouse 1990. The Monday Man 1991. The Old Woman Whose Rolling Pin Is the Sun 1991. The Seraph From Its Sepulcher X1992. The Largest Luger X1992. The Last Casualty of Cambrai 1992. The Legend of Xi Cygnus 1992. The Sailor Who Sailed After the Sun 1993. And When They Appear 1993. Useful Phrases 1994. Queen of the Night BOOK OF THE LONG SUN 1995. The Death of Koshchei the Deathless 1995. The Ziggurat 1996. Ain't You 'Most Done? 1996. Bed And Breakfast 1996. Bluesberry Jam 1996. Counting Cats in Zanzibar 1996. One Two Three for Me 1996. The Man in the Pepper Mill 1996. To the Seventh 1996. Try and Kill It 1997. Flash Company 1997. No Planets Strike 1997. Petting Zoo 1997. Wolfer 1998. The Night Chough 1998. The Wrapper 1999. A Fish Story 1999. A Traveler in Desert Lands 1999. Has Anybody Seen Junie Moon? 1999. How I Got Three Zip Codes 1999. The Tree Is My Hat 1999. The Walking Sticks BOOK OF THE SHORT SUN 2000. Pocketsful of Diamonds 2000. The Eleventh City 2000. The Fat Magician 2001. Copperhead 2001. In Glory Like Their Star 2001. Queen 2001. Viewpoint 2002. From the Cradle 2002. Mute 2002. Shields of Mars 2002. The Dog of the Drops 2002. The Waif 2002. Under Hill 2002. A Walking Tour of the Shambles 2003. Black Shoes 2003. My Name is Nancy Wood 2003. Calamity Warps 2003. Castaway 2003. Graylord Man's Last Words 2003. Hunter Lake 2003. Of Soil And Climate 2003. Talk of Mandrakes 2003. The Lost Pilgrim 2004. Golden City Far 2004. Monster 2004. Prize Crew 2004. Pulp Cover 2004. Rattler 2004. The Little Stranger 2005. Comber 2005. The Card 2005. The Gunner's Mate 2005. The Vampire Kiss 2005. Christmas Inn WIZARD KNIGHT 2006. Bea and Her Bird Brother 2006. On a Vacant Face a Bruise 2006. Sob in the Silence 2006. The On-Deck Circle 2006. Build-A-Bear 2006. Six from Atlantis 2006. The Old Woman in the Young Woman 2007. Green Glass 2007. Memorare 2007. The Hour of the Sheep 2007. The Magic Animal 2007. Unrequited Love PIRATE FREEDOM 2009. Donovan Sent Us 2009 Last Drink Bird Head EVIL GUEST 2010. Bloodsport 2010. Innocent 2010. Josh 2010. King Rat 2010. Leif in the Wind SORCERER’S HOUSE 2011. Why I Was Hanged 2011. Planetarium in Orbit 2011 The Giant HOME FIRES 2012. Dormanna 2012 Lithosphere Whale 2013 Uncaged 2013 Frost Free 2013 Sea of Memory THE LAND ACROSS --- ### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes *01 Aug 2014, 15:39 · in reply to Nessun Saprà* Marc, I think it would be worth shopping it to university publishers wihtout the novels - "The Short Fiction of Gene Wolfe" or something like that. Yes, it would be long, but I've seen some huge volumes from U-presses. > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Nessun Sapr? wrote: > Good list, Marc. I have some slightly different publication dates in mine > (which I have to check again). I am missing "Kid Sister", "A visit from his > confidant" and "Dumpster World", though. Since the Bibliomen editions are > different, you might include "Captain Roy" and "Seaman" which are only in > the 1995 edition. And I am not sure about "Last Drink Bird Head". Wasn’t > that the title of the whole volume? > > Best, Nessuno > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] Im Auftrag von Marc Aramini > Gesendet: Freitag, 1. August 2014 16:21 > An: The Urth Mailing List > Betreff: Re: (urth) short story project so far > > Here is the list compiled from the wolfe wiki with doubled stories removed > and with a few missing ones added in. > > X Easter Sunday > > X1951. The Case of the Vanishing Ghost > > X1951. The Grave Secret > > X1965. The Dead Man > > X1966. Mountains Like Mice > > X1967. Screen Test > > X1967. The Green Wall Said > > X1967. Trip, Trap > > X1967. Volksweapon > > X1968. House of Ancestors > > X1968. The Changeling > > X1969. Paul's Treehouse > > X1970. A Method Bit in "B" > > X1970. Car Sinister > > X1970. Eyebem > > X1970. How the Whip Came Back > > X1970. King Under the Mountain > > X1970. Morning-Glory > > X1970. Of Relays and Roses > > X1970. Remembrance to Come > > X1970. Sonya, Crane Wessleman, and Kittee > > X1970. The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories > > X1970. The Packerhaus Method > > X1970. The HORARS of War > > X1970. Thou Spark of Blood > > X1970 Operation Ares > > X1971. Slaves of Silver > > X1971. Sweet Forest Maid > > X1971. The Blue Mouse > > X1971. The Toy Theater > > X1971. Three Million Square Miles > > X1972. "A Story" by John V. Marsch > > X1972. Against the Lafayette Escadrille > > X1972. Alien Stones > > X1972. Beech Hill > > X1972. It's Very Clean > > X1972. Loco Parentis > > X1972. Mathoms from the Time Closet > > X1972. Robot's Story > > X1972. Tarzan of the Grapes > > X1972. The Fifth Head of Cerberus > > X1972. The Headless Man > > X1972. The Recording > > X1972. V. R. T. > > X1973. An Article About Hunting > > X1973. Beautyland > > X1973. Continuing Westward > > X1973. Feather Tigers > > X1973. Going to the Beach > > X1973. Hour of Trust > > X1973. How I Lost the Second World War and Helped Turn Back the German > Invasion > > X1973. La Befana > > X1973. Peritonitis > > X1973. The Death of Dr. Island > > X1973. Westwind > > X1974. Cues > > X1974. From the Notebook of Dr. Stein > > X1974. Melting > > X1974. The Dark of the June > > X1974. The Death of Hyle > > X1974. The Rubber Bend > > 1974. Forlesen > > X1975 Peace > > X1975. Civis Laputus Sum > > X1975. St. Brandon (Excerpt) > > X1975. Straw > > X1975. Thag > > X1975. The Hero as Werwolf > > X1975. When I Was Ming the Merciless > > X1975. Tracking Song > > X1975. Silhouette > > X1976 Devil in a Forest > > 1976. The Eyeflash Miracles > > X1976. Three Fingers > > X1977. Many Mansions > > X1977. The Marvelous Brass Chessplaying Automaton > > X1977. To the Dark Tower Came > > X1978. Our Neighbour by David Copperfield > > 1978. Seven American Nights > > 1978. The Doctor of Death Island > > X1979. The Woman Who Loved the Centaur Pholus > > X1979. War Beneath the Tree > > X1980. A Criminal Proceeding > > 1980. In Looking-Glass Castle > > 1980. Kevin Malone > > 1980. Suzanne Delage > > 1980. The Adopted Father > > 1980. The Detective of Dreams > > 1980. The God and His Man > > THE BOOK OF THE NEW SUN > > 1981. A Cabin on the Coast > > X1981. The Tale of the Student and His Son > > X1981. The Woman the Unicorn Loved > > 1981. Date Due > > 1982. Cherry Jubilee > > X1982. Folia's Story: The Armiger's Daughter > > 1982. Last Day > > 1982. My Book > > 1982. The Last Thrilling Wonder Story > > 1983. A Solar Labyrinth > > 1983. Creation > > 1983. Death of the Island Doctor > > 1983. The River > > 1983. From the Desk of Gilmer C. Merton > > 1983. At the Volcano's Lip > > 1983. In the Mountains > > 1983. In the Old Hotel > > 1983. On the Train > > 1983. The Cat > > 1983 Love Among The Corridors > > 1984 Bibliomen > > 1984. Redbeard > > 1984. The Map > > 1985. The Boy Who Hooked the Sun > > 1985. The Green Rabbit from S'Rian > > 1985. The Nebraskan and the Nereid > > X1985. The Woman Who Went Out > > X1985. FREE LIVE FREE > > 1986. Checking Out > > 1986. Choice of the Black Goddess > > 1986. The Peace Spy > > 1987. All the Hues of Hell > > 1987. Empires of Foliage and Flower > > 1987. In the House of Gingerbread > > 1987. Parkroads: A Review > > 1987. The Arimaspian Legacy > > 1987. The Most Beautiful Woman on the World > > 1987. The Other Dead Man > > SOLDIER SERIES > > THERE ARE DOORS > > 1988. Alphabet > > 1988. At the Point of Capricorn > > 1988. Game in the Pope's Head > > 1988. Houston, 1943 > > 1988. Lukora > > 1988. Read Me > > 1988. Sightings at Twin Mounds > > 1988. The Flag > > 1988. The Tale of the Rose and the Nightingale (And What Came of It) > > 1989. How the Bishop Sailed to Inniskeen > > 1989. Slow Children at Play > > 1989. The Friendship Light > > 1989. The Tale of the Four Accused > > PANDORA BY HOLLY HOLLANDER > CASTLEVIEW > > 1990. Lord of the Land > > 1990. The Haunted Boardinghouse > > 1990. The Monday Man > > 1991. The Old Woman Whose Rolling Pin Is the Sun > > 1991. The Seraph From Its Sepulcher > > X1992. The Largest Luger > > X1992. The Last Casualty of Cambrai > > 1992. The Legend of Xi Cygnus > > 1992. The Sailor Who Sailed After the Sun > > 1993. And When They Appear > > 1993. Useful Phrases > > 1994. Queen of the Night > > BOOK OF THE LONG SUN > > 1995. The Death of Koshchei the Deathless > > 1995. The Ziggurat > > 1996. Ain't You 'Most Done? > > 1996. Bed And Breakfast > > 1996. Bluesberry Jam > > 1996. Counting Cats in Zanzibar > > 1996. One Two Three for Me > > 1996. The Man in the Pepper Mill > > 1996. To the Seventh > > 1996. Try and Kill It > > 1997. Flash Company > > 1997. No Planets Strike > > 1997. Petting Zoo > > 1997. Wolfer > > 1998. The Night Chough > > 1998. The Wrapper > > 1999. A Fish Story > > 1999. A Traveler in Desert Lands > > 1999. Has Anybody Seen Junie Moon? > > 1999. How I Got Three Zip Codes > > 1999. The Tree Is My Hat > > 1999. The Walking Sticks > > BOOK OF THE SHORT SUN > > 2000. Pocketsful of Diamonds > > 2000. The Eleventh City > > 2000. The Fat Magician > > 2001. Copperhead > > 2001. In Glory Like Their Star > > 2001. Queen > > 2001. Viewpoint > > 2002. From the Cradle > > 2002. Mute > > 2002. Shields of Mars > > 2002. The Dog of the Drops > > 2002. The Waif > > 2002. Under Hill > > 2002. A Walking Tour of the Shambles > > 2003. Black Shoes > > 2003. My Name is Nancy Wood > > 2003. Calamity Warps > > 2003. Castaway > > 2003. Graylord Man's Last Words > > 2003. Hunter Lake > > 2003. Of Soil And Climate > > 2003. Talk of Mandrakes > > 2003. The Lost Pilgrim > > 2004. Golden City Far > > 2004. Monster > > 2004. Prize Crew > > 2004. Pulp Cover > > 2004. Rattler > > 2004. The Little Stranger > > 2005. Comber > > 2005. The Card > > 2005. The Gunner's Mate > > 2005. The Vampire Kiss > > 2005. Christmas Inn > > WIZARD KNIGHT > > 2006. Bea and Her Bird Brother > > 2006. On a Vacant Face a Bruise > > 2006. Sob in the Silence > > 2006. The On-Deck Circle > > 2006. Build-A-Bear > > 2006. Six from Atlantis > > 2006. The Old Woman in the Young Woman > > 2007. Green Glass > > 2007. Memorare > > 2007. The Hour of the Sheep > > 2007. The Magic Animal > > 2007. Unrequited Love > > PIRATE FREEDOM > > 2009. Donovan Sent Us > > 2009 Last Drink Bird Head > > EVIL GUEST > > 2010. Bloodsport > > 2010. Innocent > > 2010. Josh > > 2010. King Rat > > 2010. Leif in the Wind > > SORCERER’S HOUSE > > 2011. Why I Was Hanged > > 2011. Planetarium in Orbit > > 2011 The Giant > > HOME FIRES > > 2012. Dormanna > > 2012 Lithosphere Whale > > 2013 Uncaged > > 2013 Frost Free > > 2013 Sea of Memory > > THE LAND ACROSS > _______________________________________________ --- ### Marc Aramini *01 Aug 2014, 16:27 · in reply to Nessun Saprà* Yes, that was the whole volume, Last Drink Bird Head. I will look up the individual story title. I had never heard of Dumpster World before, a mock review of his own fiction, but found it online. Can't find anything about "A visit from his confidant" ... what is that and where is it? Do you have a copy? Kid Sister is nonfiction so I didn't include it but will talk about it when I cover "How I Got Three Zip Codes" as well as the intro to Brian Hopkins Phoenix, which is the same story told in Kid Sister more poetically. > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Nessun Sapr? wrote: > Good list, Marc. I have some slightly different publication dates in mine (which I have to check again). I am missing "Kid Sister", "A visit from his confidant" and "Dumpster World", though. Since the Bibliomen editions are different, you might include "Captain Roy" and "Seaman" which are only in the 1995 edition. And I am not sure about "Last Drink Bird Head". Wasn’t that the title of the whole volume? > > Best, Nessuno > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] Im Auftrag von Marc Aramini > Gesendet: Freitag, 1. August 2014 16:21 > An: The Urth Mailing List > Betreff: Re: (urth) short story project so far > > Here is the list compiled from the wolfe wiki with doubled stories removed and with a few missing ones added in. > > X Easter Sunday > > X1951. The Case of the Vanishing Ghost > > X1951. The Grave Secret > > X1965. The Dead Man > > X1966. Mountains Like Mice > > X1967. Screen Test > > X1967. The Green Wall Said > > X1967. Trip, Trap > > X1967. Volksweapon > > X1968. House of Ancestors > > X1968. The Changeling > > X1969. Paul's Treehouse > > X1970. A Method Bit in "B" > > X1970. Car Sinister > > X1970. Eyebem > > X1970. How the Whip Came Back > > X1970. King Under the Mountain > > X1970. Morning-Glory > > X1970. Of Relays and Roses > > X1970. Remembrance to Come > > X1970. Sonya, Crane Wessleman, and Kittee > > X1970. The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories > > X1970. The Packerhaus Method > > X1970. The HORARS of War > > X1970. Thou Spark of Blood > > X1970 Operation Ares > > X1971. Slaves of Silver > > X1971. Sweet Forest Maid > > X1971. The Blue Mouse > > X1971. The Toy Theater > > X1971. Three Million Square Miles > > X1972. "A Story" by John V. Marsch > > X1972. Against the Lafayette Escadrille > > X1972. Alien Stones > > X1972. Beech Hill > > X1972. It's Very Clean > > X1972. Loco Parentis > > X1972. Mathoms from the Time Closet > > X1972. Robot's Story > > X1972. Tarzan of the Grapes > > X1972. The Fifth Head of Cerberus > > X1972. The Headless Man > > X1972. The Recording > > X1972. V. R. T. > > X1973. An Article About Hunting > > X1973. Beautyland > > X1973. Continuing Westward > > X1973. Feather Tigers > > X1973. Going to the Beach > > X1973. Hour of Trust > > X1973. How I Lost the Second World War and Helped Turn Back the German Invasion > > X1973. La Befana > > X1973. Peritonitis > > X1973. The Death of Dr. Island > > X1973. Westwind > > X1974. Cues > > X1974. From the Notebook of Dr. Stein > > X1974. Melting > > X1974. The Dark of the June > > X1974. The Death of Hyle > > X1974. The Rubber Bend > > 1974. Forlesen > > X1975 Peace > > X1975. Civis Laputus Sum > > X1975. St. Brandon (Excerpt) > > X1975. Straw > > X1975. Thag > > X1975. The Hero as Werwolf > > X1975. When I Was Ming the Merciless > > X1975. Tracking Song > > X1975. Silhouette > > X1976 Devil in a Forest > > 1976. The Eyeflash Miracles > > X1976. Three Fingers > > X1977. Many Mansions > > X1977. The Marvelous Brass Chessplaying Automaton > > X1977. To the Dark Tower Came > > X1978. Our Neighbour by David Copperfield > > 1978. Seven American Nights > > 1978. The Doctor of Death Island > > X1979. The Woman Who Loved the Centaur Pholus > > X1979. War Beneath the Tree > > X1980. A Criminal Proceeding > > 1980. In Looking-Glass Castle > > 1980. Kevin Malone > > 1980. Suzanne Delage > > 1980. The Adopted Father > > 1980. The Detective of Dreams > > 1980. The God and His Man > > THE BOOK OF THE NEW SUN > > 1981. A Cabin on the Coast > > X1981. The Tale of the Student and His Son > > X1981. The Woman the Unicorn Loved > > 1981. Date Due > > 1982. Cherry Jubilee > > X1982. Folia's Story: The Armiger's Daughter > > 1982. Last Day > > 1982. My Book > > 1982. The Last Thrilling Wonder Story > > 1983. A Solar Labyrinth > > 1983. Creation > > 1983. Death of the Island Doctor > > 1983. The River > > 1983. From the Desk of Gilmer C. Merton > > 1983. At the Volcano's Lip > > 1983. In the Mountains > > 1983. In the Old Hotel > > 1983. On the Train > > 1983. The Cat > > 1983 Love Among The Corridors > > 1984 Bibliomen > > 1984. Redbeard > > 1984. The Map > > 1985. The Boy Who Hooked the Sun > > 1985. The Green Rabbit from S'Rian > > 1985. The Nebraskan and the Nereid > > X1985. The Woman Who Went Out > > X1985. FREE LIVE FREE > > 1986. Checking Out > > 1986. Choice of the Black Goddess > > 1986. The Peace Spy > > 1987. All the Hues of Hell > > 1987. Empires of Foliage and Flower > > 1987. In the House of Gingerbread > > 1987. Parkroads: A Review > > 1987. The Arimaspian Legacy > > 1987. The Most Beautiful Woman on the World > > 1987. The Other Dead Man > > SOLDIER SERIES > > THERE ARE DOORS > > 1988. Alphabet > > 1988. At the Point of Capricorn > > 1988. Game in the Pope's Head > > 1988. Houston, 1943 > > 1988. Lukora > > 1988. Read Me > > 1988. Sightings at Twin Mounds > > 1988. The Flag > > 1988. The Tale of the Rose and the Nightingale (And What Came of It) > > 1989. How the Bishop Sailed to Inniskeen > > 1989. Slow Children at Play > > 1989. The Friendship Light > > 1989. The Tale of the Four Accused > > PANDORA BY HOLLY HOLLANDER > CASTLEVIEW > > 1990. Lord of the Land > > 1990. The Haunted Boardinghouse > > 1990. The Monday Man > > 1991. The Old Woman Whose Rolling Pin Is the Sun > > 1991. The Seraph From Its Sepulcher > > X1992. The Largest Luger > > X1992. The Last Casualty of Cambrai > > 1992. The Legend of Xi Cygnus > > 1992. The Sailor Who Sailed After the Sun > > 1993. And When They Appear > > 1993. Useful Phrases > > 1994. Queen of the Night > > BOOK OF THE LONG SUN > > 1995. The Death of Koshchei the Deathless > > 1995. The Ziggurat > > 1996. Ain't You 'Most Done? > > 1996. Bed And Breakfast > > 1996. Bluesberry Jam > > 1996. Counting Cats in Zanzibar > > 1996. One Two Three for Me > > 1996. The Man in the Pepper Mill > > 1996. To the Seventh > > 1996. Try and Kill It > > 1997. Flash Company > > 1997. No Planets Strike > > 1997. Petting Zoo > > 1997. Wolfer > > 1998. The Night Chough > > 1998. The Wrapper > > 1999. A Fish Story > > 1999. A Traveler in Desert Lands > > 1999. Has Anybody Seen Junie Moon? > > 1999. How I Got Three Zip Codes > > 1999. The Tree Is My Hat > > 1999. The Walking Sticks > > BOOK OF THE SHORT SUN > > 2000. Pocketsful of Diamonds > > 2000. The Eleventh City > > 2000. The Fat Magician > > 2001. Copperhead > > 2001. In Glory Like Their Star > > 2001. Queen > > 2001. Viewpoint > > 2002. From the Cradle > > 2002. Mute > > 2002. Shields of Mars > > 2002. The Dog of the Drops > > 2002. The Waif > > 2002. Under Hill > > 2002. A Walking Tour of the Shambles > > 2003. Black Shoes > > 2003. My Name is Nancy Wood > > 2003. Calamity Warps > > 2003. Castaway > > 2003. Graylord Man's Last Words > > 2003. Hunter Lake > > 2003. Of Soil And Climate > > 2003. Talk of Mandrakes > > 2003. The Lost Pilgrim > > 2004. Golden City Far > > 2004. Monster > > 2004. Prize Crew > > 2004. Pulp Cover > > 2004. Rattler > > 2004. The Little Stranger > > 2005. Comber > > 2005. The Card > > 2005. The Gunner's Mate > > 2005. The Vampire Kiss > > 2005. Christmas Inn > > WIZARD KNIGHT > > 2006. Bea and Her Bird Brother > > 2006. On a Vacant Face a Bruise > > 2006. Sob in the Silence > > 2006. The On-Deck Circle > > 2006. Build-A-Bear > > 2006. Six from Atlantis > > 2006. The Old Woman in the Young Woman > > 2007. Green Glass > > 2007. Memorare > > 2007. The Hour of the Sheep > > 2007. The Magic Animal > > 2007. Unrequited Love > > PIRATE FREEDOM > > 2009. Donovan Sent Us > > 2009 Last Drink Bird Head > > EVIL GUEST > > 2010. Bloodsport > > 2010. Innocent > > 2010. Josh > > 2010. King Rat > > 2010. Leif in the Wind > > SORCERER’S HOUSE > > 2011. Why I Was Hanged > > 2011. Planetarium in Orbit > > 2011 The Giant > > HOME FIRES > > 2012. Dormanna > > 2012 Lithosphere Whale > > 2013 Uncaged > > 2013 Frost Free > > 2013 Sea of Memory > > THE LAND ACROSS > _______________________________________________ --- ### Marc Aramini *01 Aug 2014, 16:31 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > Marc, > > I think it would be worth shopping it to university publishers wihtout the > novels - "The Short Fiction of Gene Wolfe" or something like that. Yes, it > would be long, but I've seen some huge volumes from U-presses. The novels are discussed with fairly short essays and have some of my best observations - latro as ares, Skip as sleeper assassin, Number Five as the only human, Marsch as shadow child, Typhon as Silk's father, Ben Free as America, etc. I would want it to be a holistic kind of work. That would probably only add maybe 150 pages. Maybe 200. --- ### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes *01 Aug 2014, 16:31 · in reply to Marc Aramini* Then I would suggest two volumes, "the short fiction of" and "the novels of." > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Marc Aramini wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > wrote: >> Marc, >> >> I think it would be worth shopping it to university publishers wihtout >> the >> novels - "The Short Fiction of Gene Wolfe" or something like that. Yes, >> it >> would be long, but I've seen some huge volumes from U-presses. > The novels are discussed with fairly short essays and have some of my > best observations - latro as ares, Skip as sleeper assassin, Number > Five as the only human, Marsch as shadow child, Typhon as Silk's > father, Ben Free as America, etc. I would want it to be a holistic > kind of work. That would probably only add maybe 150 pages. Maybe > 200. > _______________________________________________ --- ### Nessun Saprà *01 Aug 2014, 16:44 · in reply to Marc Aramini* "A visit ..." is a Mark-Twain-Story, published in: Brody, Ellen; Duffy, Richard (eds.): Readercon 22: Souvenir Book (2011), pp. 65?6. PN me for a copy. Nessuno -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] Im Auftrag von Marc Aramini Gesendet: Freitag, 1. August 2014 18:28 An: The Urth Mailing List Betreff: Re: (urth) short story project so far Yes, that was the whole volume, Last Drink Bird Head. I will look up the individual story title. I had never heard of Dumpster World before, a mock review of his own fiction, but found it online. Can't find anything about "A visit from his confidant" ... what is that and where is it? Do you have a copy? Kid Sister is nonfiction so I didn't include it but will talk about it when I cover "How I Got Three Zip Codes" as well as the intro to Brian Hopkins Phoenix, which is the same story told in Kid Sister more poetically. > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Nessun Sapr? wrote: > Good list, Marc. I have some slightly different publication dates in mine (which I have to check again). I am missing "Kid Sister", "A visit from his confidant" and "Dumpster World", though. Since the Bibliomen editions are different, you might include "Captain Roy" and "Seaman" which are only in the 1995 edition. And I am not sure about "Last Drink Bird Head". Wasn’t that the title of the whole volume? > > Best, Nessuno > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] Im Auftrag von Marc > Aramini > Gesendet: Freitag, 1. August 2014 16:21 > An: The Urth Mailing List > Betreff: Re: (urth) short story project so far > > Here is the list compiled from the wolfe wiki with doubled stories removed and with a few missing ones added in. > > X Easter Sunday > > X1951. The Case of the Vanishing Ghost > > X1951. The Grave Secret > > X1965. The Dead Man > > X1966. Mountains Like Mice > > X1967. Screen Test > > X1967. The Green Wall Said > > X1967. Trip, Trap > > X1967. Volksweapon > > X1968. House of Ancestors > > X1968. The Changeling > > X1969. Paul's Treehouse > > X1970. A Method Bit in "B" > > X1970. Car Sinister > > X1970. Eyebem > > X1970. How the Whip Came Back > > X1970. King Under the Mountain > > X1970. Morning-Glory > > X1970. Of Relays and Roses > > X1970. Remembrance to Come > > X1970. Sonya, Crane Wessleman, and Kittee > > X1970. The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories > > X1970. The Packerhaus Method > > X1970. The HORARS of War > > X1970. Thou Spark of Blood > > X1970 Operation Ares > > X1971. Slaves of Silver > > X1971. Sweet Forest Maid > > X1971. The Blue Mouse > > X1971. The Toy Theater > > X1971. Three Million Square Miles > > X1972. "A Story" by John V. Marsch > > X1972. Against the Lafayette Escadrille > > X1972. Alien Stones > > X1972. Beech Hill > > X1972. It's Very Clean > > X1972. Loco Parentis > > X1972. Mathoms from the Time Closet > > X1972. Robot's Story > > X1972. Tarzan of the Grapes > > X1972. The Fifth Head of Cerberus > > X1972. The Headless Man > > X1972. The Recording > > X1972. V. R. T. > > X1973. An Article About Hunting > > X1973. Beautyland > > X1973. Continuing Westward > > X1973. Feather Tigers > > X1973. Going to the Beach > > X1973. Hour of Trust > > X1973. How I Lost the Second World War and Helped Turn Back the > German Invasion > > X1973. La Befana > > X1973. Peritonitis > > X1973. The Death of Dr. Island > > X1973. Westwind > > X1974. Cues > > X1974. From the Notebook of Dr. Stein > > X1974. Melting > > X1974. The Dark of the June > > X1974. The Death of Hyle > > X1974. The Rubber Bend > > 1974. Forlesen > > X1975 Peace > > X1975. Civis Laputus Sum > > X1975. St. Brandon (Excerpt) > > X1975. Straw > > X1975. Thag > > X1975. The Hero as Werwolf > > X1975. When I Was Ming the Merciless > > X1975. Tracking Song > > X1975. Silhouette > > X1976 Devil in a Forest > > 1976. The Eyeflash Miracles > > X1976. Three Fingers > > X1977. Many Mansions > > X1977. The Marvelous Brass Chessplaying Automaton > > X1977. To the Dark Tower Came > > X1978. Our Neighbour by David Copperfield > > 1978. Seven American Nights > > 1978. The Doctor of Death Island > > X1979. The Woman Who Loved the Centaur Pholus > > X1979. War Beneath the Tree > > X1980. A Criminal Proceeding > > 1980. In Looking-Glass Castle > > 1980. Kevin Malone > > 1980. Suzanne Delage > > 1980. The Adopted Father > > 1980. The Detective of Dreams > > 1980. The God and His Man > > THE BOOK OF THE NEW SUN > > 1981. A Cabin on the Coast > > X1981. The Tale of the Student and His Son > > X1981. The Woman the Unicorn Loved > > 1981. Date Due > > 1982. Cherry Jubilee > > X1982. Folia's Story: The Armiger's Daughter > > 1982. Last Day > > 1982. My Book > > 1982. The Last Thrilling Wonder Story > > 1983. A Solar Labyrinth > > 1983. Creation > > 1983. Death of the Island Doctor > > 1983. The River > > 1983. From the Desk of Gilmer C. Merton > > 1983. At the Volcano's Lip > > 1983. In the Mountains > > 1983. In the Old Hotel > > 1983. On the Train > > 1983. The Cat > > 1983 Love Among The Corridors > > 1984 Bibliomen > > 1984. Redbeard > > 1984. The Map > > 1985. The Boy Who Hooked the Sun > > 1985. The Green Rabbit from S'Rian > > 1985. The Nebraskan and the Nereid > > X1985. The Woman Who Went Out > > X1985. FREE LIVE FREE > > 1986. Checking Out > > 1986. Choice of the Black Goddess > > 1986. The Peace Spy > > 1987. All the Hues of Hell > > 1987. Empires of Foliage and Flower > > 1987. In the House of Gingerbread > > 1987. Parkroads: A Review > > 1987. The Arimaspian Legacy > > 1987. The Most Beautiful Woman on the World > > 1987. The Other Dead Man > > SOLDIER SERIES > > THERE ARE DOORS > > 1988. Alphabet > > 1988. At the Point of Capricorn > > 1988. Game in the Pope's Head > > 1988. Houston, 1943 > > 1988. Lukora > > 1988. Read Me > > 1988. Sightings at Twin Mounds > > 1988. The Flag > > 1988. The Tale of the Rose and the Nightingale (And What Came of It) > > 1989. How the Bishop Sailed to Inniskeen > > 1989. Slow Children at Play > > 1989. The Friendship Light > > 1989. The Tale of the Four Accused > > PANDORA BY HOLLY HOLLANDER > CASTLEVIEW > > 1990. Lord of the Land > > 1990. The Haunted Boardinghouse > > 1990. The Monday Man > > 1991. The Old Woman Whose Rolling Pin Is the Sun > > 1991. The Seraph From Its Sepulcher > > X1992. The Largest Luger > > X1992. The Last Casualty of Cambrai > > 1992. The Legend of Xi Cygnus > > 1992. The Sailor Who Sailed After the Sun > > 1993. And When They Appear > > 1993. Useful Phrases > > 1994. Queen of the Night > > BOOK OF THE LONG SUN > > 1995. The Death of Koshchei the Deathless > > 1995. The Ziggurat > > 1996. Ain't You 'Most Done? > > 1996. Bed And Breakfast > > 1996. Bluesberry Jam > > 1996. Counting Cats in Zanzibar > > 1996. One Two Three for Me > > 1996. The Man in the Pepper Mill > > 1996. To the Seventh > > 1996. Try and Kill It > > 1997. Flash Company > > 1997. No Planets Strike > > 1997. Petting Zoo > > 1997. Wolfer > > 1998. The Night Chough > > 1998. The Wrapper > > 1999. A Fish Story > > 1999. A Traveler in Desert Lands > > 1999. Has Anybody Seen Junie Moon? > > 1999. How I Got Three Zip Codes > > 1999. The Tree Is My Hat > > 1999. The Walking Sticks > > BOOK OF THE SHORT SUN > > 2000. Pocketsful of Diamonds > > 2000. The Eleventh City > > 2000. The Fat Magician > > 2001. Copperhead > > 2001. In Glory Like Their Star > > 2001. Queen > > 2001. Viewpoint > > 2002. From the Cradle > > 2002. Mute > > 2002. Shields of Mars > > 2002. The Dog of the Drops > > 2002. The Waif > > 2002. Under Hill > > 2002. A Walking Tour of the Shambles > > 2003. Black Shoes > > 2003. My Name is Nancy Wood > > 2003. Calamity Warps > > 2003. Castaway > > 2003. Graylord Man's Last Words > > 2003. Hunter Lake > > 2003. Of Soil And Climate > > 2003. Talk of Mandrakes > > 2003. The Lost Pilgrim > > 2004. Golden City Far > > 2004. Monster > > 2004. Prize Crew > > 2004. Pulp Cover > > 2004. Rattler > > 2004. The Little Stranger > > 2005. Comber > > 2005. The Card > > 2005. The Gunner's Mate > > 2005. The Vampire Kiss > > 2005. Christmas Inn > > WIZARD KNIGHT > > 2006. Bea and Her Bird Brother > > 2006. On a Vacant Face a Bruise > > 2006. Sob in the Silence > > 2006. The On-Deck Circle > > 2006. Build-A-Bear > > 2006. Six from Atlantis > > 2006. The Old Woman in the Young Woman > > 2007. Green Glass > > 2007. Memorare > > 2007. The Hour of the Sheep > > 2007. The Magic Animal > > 2007. Unrequited Love > > PIRATE FREEDOM > > 2009. Donovan Sent Us > > 2009 Last Drink Bird Head > > EVIL GUEST > > 2010. Bloodsport > > 2010. Innocent > > 2010. Josh > > 2010. King Rat > > 2010. Leif in the Wind > > SORCERER’S HOUSE > > 2011. Why I Was Hanged > > 2011. Planetarium in Orbit > > 2011 The Giant > > HOME FIRES > > 2012. Dormanna > > 2012 Lithosphere Whale > > 2013 Uncaged > > 2013 Frost Free > > 2013 Sea of Memory > > THE LAND ACROSS > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net --- ### Matthew King *01 Aug 2014, 17:00 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* > On Aug 1, 2014, at 11:31 AM, "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" wrote: > Then I would suggest two volumes, "the short fiction of" and "the novels of." Book of the Short Fiction, Book of the Long Fiction --- ### Antonin Scriabin *01 Aug 2014, 17:05 · in reply to Nessun Saprà* Is it possible Tor would be interested? They seem to be fans of Wolfe and publish things like collections in honor of Vance and the Peace reprinting. Another possibility is McSweeneys. They have published all sorts of strange, big projects, like Vollman's 3,000 page, 7 volume "Rising Up and Rising Down". Not sure if Wolfe would be hipster-cool enough for them, however. > On Aug 1, 2014 12:45 PM, "Nessun Sapr?" wrote: > "A visit ..." is a Mark-Twain-Story, published in: Brody, Ellen; Duffy, > Richard (eds.): Readercon 22: Souvenir Book (2011), pp. 65?6. PN me for a > copy. Nessuno > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] Im Auftrag von Marc Aramini > Gesendet: Freitag, 1. August 2014 18:28 > An: The Urth Mailing List > Betreff: Re: (urth) short story project so far > > Yes, that was the whole volume, Last Drink Bird Head. I will look up the > individual story title. I had never heard of Dumpster World before, a mock > review of his own fiction, but found it online. Can't find anything about > "A visit from his confidant" ... what is that and where is it? Do you have > a copy? Kid Sister is nonfiction so I didn't include it but will talk about > it when I cover "How I Got Three Zip Codes" as well as the intro to Brian > Hopkins Phoenix, which is the same story told in Kid Sister more poetically. > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Nessun Sapr? wrote: >> Good list, Marc. I have some slightly different publication dates in >> mine (which I have to check again). I am missing "Kid Sister", "A visit >> from his confidant" and "Dumpster World", though. Since the Bibliomen >> editions are different, you might include "Captain Roy" and "Seaman" which >> are only in the 1995 edition. And I am not sure about "Last Drink Bird >> Head". Wasn’t that the title of the whole volume? >> >> Best, Nessuno >> >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] Im Auftrag von Marc >> Aramini >> Gesendet: Freitag, 1. August 2014 16:21 >> An: The Urth Mailing List >> Betreff: Re: (urth) short story project so far >> >> Here is the list compiled from the wolfe wiki with doubled stories >> removed and with a few missing ones added in. >> >> X Easter Sunday >> >> X1951. The Case of the Vanishing Ghost >> >> X1951. The Grave Secret >> >> X1965. The Dead Man >> >> X1966. Mountains Like Mice >> >> X1967. Screen Test >> >> X1967. The Green Wall Said >> >> X1967. Trip, Trap >> >> X1967. Volksweapon >> >> X1968. House of Ancestors >> >> X1968. The Changeling >> >> X1969. Paul's Treehouse >> >> X1970. A Method Bit in "B" >> >> X1970. Car Sinister >> >> X1970. Eyebem >> >> X1970. How the Whip Came Back >> >> X1970. King Under the Mountain >> >> X1970. Morning-Glory >> >> X1970. Of Relays and Roses >> >> X1970. Remembrance to Come >> >> X1970. Sonya, Crane Wessleman, and Kittee >> >> X1970. The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories >> >> X1970. The Packerhaus Method >> >> X1970. The HORARS of War >> >> X1970. Thou Spark of Blood >> >> X1970 Operation Ares >> >> X1971. Slaves of Silver >> >> X1971. Sweet Forest Maid >> >> X1971. The Blue Mouse >> >> X1971. The Toy Theater >> >> X1971. Three Million Square Miles >> >> X1972. "A Story" by John V. Marsch >> >> X1972. Against the Lafayette Escadrille >> >> X1972. Alien Stones >> >> X1972. Beech Hill >> >> X1972. It's Very Clean >> >> X1972. Loco Parentis >> >> X1972. Mathoms from the Time Closet >> >> X1972. Robot's Story >> >> X1972. Tarzan of the Grapes >> >> X1972. The Fifth Head of Cerberus >> >> X1972. The Headless Man >> >> X1972. The Recording >> >> X1972. V. R. T. >> >> X1973. An Article About Hunting >> >> X1973. Beautyland >> >> X1973. Continuing Westward >> >> X1973. Feather Tigers >> >> X1973. Going to the Beach >> >> X1973. Hour of Trust >> >> X1973. How I Lost the Second World War and Helped Turn Back the >> German Invasion >> >> X1973. La Befana >> >> X1973. Peritonitis >> >> X1973. The Death of Dr. Island >> >> X1973. Westwind >> >> X1974. Cues >> >> X1974. From the Notebook of Dr. Stein >> >> X1974. Melting >> >> X1974. The Dark of the June >> >> X1974. The Death of Hyle >> >> X1974. The Rubber Bend >> >> 1974. Forlesen >> >> X1975 Peace >> >> X1975. Civis Laputus Sum >> >> X1975. St. Brandon (Excerpt) >> >> X1975. Straw >> >> X1975. Thag >> >> X1975. The Hero as Werwolf >> >> X1975. When I Was Ming the Merciless >> >> X1975. Tracking Song >> >> X1975. Silhouette >> >> X1976 Devil in a Forest >> >> 1976. The Eyeflash Miracles >> >> X1976. Three Fingers >> >> X1977. Many Mansions >> >> X1977. The Marvelous Brass Chessplaying Automaton >> >> X1977. To the Dark Tower Came >> >> X1978. Our Neighbour by David Copperfield >> >> 1978. Seven American Nights >> >> 1978. The Doctor of Death Island >> >> X1979. The Woman Who Loved the Centaur Pholus >> >> X1979. War Beneath the Tree >> >> X1980. A Criminal Proceeding >> >> 1980. In Looking-Glass Castle >> >> 1980. Kevin Malone >> >> 1980. Suzanne Delage >> >> 1980. The Adopted Father >> >> 1980. The Detective of Dreams >> >> 1980. The God and His Man >> >> THE BOOK OF THE NEW SUN >> >> 1981. A Cabin on the Coast >> >> X1981. The Tale of the Student and His Son >> >> X1981. The Woman the Unicorn Loved >> >> 1981. Date Due >> >> 1982. Cherry Jubilee >> >> X1982. Folia's Story: The Armiger's Daughter >> >> 1982. Last Day >> >> 1982. My Book >> >> 1982. The Last Thrilling Wonder Story >> >> 1983. A Solar Labyrinth >> >> 1983. Creation >> >> 1983. Death of the Island Doctor >> >> 1983. The River >> >> 1983. From the Desk of Gilmer C. Merton >> >> 1983. At the Volcano's Lip >> >> 1983. In the Mountains >> >> 1983. In the Old Hotel >> >> 1983. On the Train >> >> 1983. The Cat >> >> 1983 Love Among The Corridors >> >> 1984 Bibliomen >> >> 1984. Redbeard >> >> 1984. The Map >> >> 1985. The Boy Who Hooked the Sun >> >> 1985. The Green Rabbit from S'Rian >> >> 1985. The Nebraskan and the Nereid >> >> X1985. The Woman Who Went Out >> >> X1985. FREE LIVE FREE >> >> 1986. Checking Out >> >> 1986. Choice of the Black Goddess >> >> 1986. The Peace Spy >> >> 1987. All the Hues of Hell >> >> 1987. Empires of Foliage and Flower >> >> 1987. In the House of Gingerbread >> >> 1987. Parkroads: A Review >> >> 1987. The Arimaspian Legacy >> >> 1987. The Most Beautiful Woman on the World >> >> 1987. The Other Dead Man >> >> SOLDIER SERIES >> >> THERE ARE DOORS >> >> 1988. Alphabet >> >> 1988. At the Point of Capricorn >> >> 1988. Game in the Pope's Head >> >> 1988. Houston, 1943 >> >> 1988. Lukora >> >> 1988. Read Me >> >> 1988. Sightings at Twin Mounds >> >> 1988. The Flag >> >> 1988. The Tale of the Rose and the Nightingale (And What Came of It) >> >> 1989. How the Bishop Sailed to Inniskeen >> >> 1989. Slow Children at Play >> >> 1989. The Friendship Light >> >> 1989. The Tale of the Four Accused >> >> PANDORA BY HOLLY HOLLANDER >> CASTLEVIEW >> >> 1990. Lord of the Land >> >> 1990. The Haunted Boardinghouse >> >> 1990. The Monday Man >> >> 1991. The Old Woman Whose Rolling Pin Is the Sun >> >> 1991. The Seraph From Its Sepulcher >> >> X1992. The Largest Luger >> >> X1992. The Last Casualty of Cambrai >> >> 1992. The Legend of Xi Cygnus >> >> 1992. The Sailor Who Sailed After the Sun >> >> 1993. And When They Appear >> >> 1993. Useful Phrases >> >> 1994. Queen of the Night >> >> BOOK OF THE LONG SUN >> >> 1995. The Death of Koshchei the Deathless >> >> 1995. The Ziggurat >> >> 1996. Ain't You 'Most Done? >> >> 1996. Bed And Breakfast >> >> 1996. Bluesberry Jam >> >> 1996. Counting Cats in Zanzibar >> >> 1996. One Two Three for Me >> >> 1996. The Man in the Pepper Mill >> >> 1996. To the Seventh >> >> 1996. Try and Kill It >> >> 1997. Flash Company >> >> 1997. No Planets Strike >> >> 1997. Petting Zoo >> >> 1997. Wolfer >> >> 1998. The Night Chough >> >> 1998. The Wrapper >> >> 1999. A Fish Story >> >> 1999. A Traveler in Desert Lands >> >> 1999. Has Anybody Seen Junie Moon? >> >> 1999. How I Got Three Zip Codes >> >> 1999. The Tree Is My Hat >> >> 1999. The Walking Sticks >> >> BOOK OF THE SHORT SUN >> >> 2000. Pocketsful of Diamonds >> >> 2000. The Eleventh City >> >> 2000. The Fat Magician >> >> 2001. Copperhead >> >> 2001. In Glory Like Their Star >> >> 2001. Queen >> >> 2001. Viewpoint >> >> 2002. From the Cradle >> >> 2002. Mute >> >> 2002. Shields of Mars >> >> 2002. The Dog of the Drops >> >> 2002. The Waif >> >> 2002. Under Hill >> >> 2002. A Walking Tour of the Shambles >> >> 2003. Black Shoes >> >> 2003. My Name is Nancy Wood >> >> 2003. Calamity Warps >> >> 2003. Castaway >> >> 2003. Graylord Man's Last Words >> >> 2003. Hunter Lake >> >> 2003. Of Soil And Climate >> >> 2003. Talk of Mandrakes >> >> 2003. The Lost Pilgrim >> >> 2004. Golden City Far >> >> 2004. Monster >> >> 2004. Prize Crew >> >> 2004. Pulp Cover >> >> 2004. Rattler >> >> 2004. The Little Stranger >> >> 2005. Comber >> >> 2005. The Card >> >> 2005. The Gunner's Mate >> >> 2005. The Vampire Kiss >> >> 2005. Christmas Inn >> >> WIZARD KNIGHT >> >> 2006. Bea and Her Bird Brother >> >> 2006. On a Vacant Face a Bruise >> >> 2006. Sob in the Silence >> >> 2006. The On-Deck Circle >> >> 2006. Build-A-Bear >> >> 2006. Six from Atlantis >> >> 2006. The Old Woman in the Young Woman >> >> 2007. Green Glass >> >> 2007. Memorare >> >> 2007. The Hour of the Sheep >> >> 2007. The Magic Animal >> >> 2007. Unrequited Love >> >> PIRATE FREEDOM >> >> 2009. Donovan Sent Us >> >> 2009 Last Drink Bird Head >> >> EVIL GUEST >> >> 2010. Bloodsport >> >> 2010. Innocent >> >> 2010. Josh >> >> 2010. King Rat >> >> 2010. Leif in the Wind >> >> SORCERER’S HOUSE >> >> 2011. Why I Was Hanged >> >> 2011. Planetarium in Orbit >> >> 2011 The Giant >> >> HOME FIRES >> >> 2012. Dormanna >> >> 2012 Lithosphere Whale >> >> 2013 Uncaged >> >> 2013 Frost Free >> >> 2013 Sea of Memory >> >> THE LAND ACROSS >> _______________________________________________ --- ### Robert Pirkola *01 Aug 2014, 19:53 · follows Antonin Scriabin* I also really appreciate the work you've been doing on the short story project Marc and having looked at a couple of the stories deeply and written about them cannot imagine the amount of time and energy it has required for you to keep this up for as long as you have (and hope to continue doing)! I have actually been making a "book" of your writings from the project, with add-ins of interesting posts from urth list members, for my own personal use. I have been doing light editing to it as I go along (I am up to your post on Operation ARES, which I coincidentally just finished reading) and it is at about 126 pages in a Word document. When I catch up to where you are at present, I can send it to you if you want. In any event, keep cranking away, it is a very worthwhile project and one that hopefully one day can stand next to the Andre-Driussi, Gordon, and Borski books as go-to secondary source material for serious Wolfe readers. --- ### entonio at gmail.com *02 Aug 2014, 01:10 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* I've been wanting to say something about this since the beginning but only now did I find the time. My first thought was precisely that you should split it according to the type of work. As to the publishing, please avoid the kind of outfit that would make this a $200 edition! If you do end up publishing it electronically, great, but don't give it away for 2c either. This is a beautiful work. No dia 01/08/2014, ?s 17:31, "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" escreveu: > Then I would suggest two volumes, "the short fiction of" and "the novels of." > > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Marc Aramini wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: >> Marc, >> >> I think it would be worth shopping it to university publishers wihtout the >> novels - "The Short Fiction of Gene Wolfe" or something like that. Yes, it >> would be long, but I've seen some huge volumes from U-presses. > The novels are discussed with fairly short essays and have some of my > best observations - latro as ares, Skip as sleeper assassin, Number > Five as the only human, Marsch as shadow child, Typhon as Silk's > father, Ben Free as America, etc. I would want it to be a holistic > kind of work. That would probably only add maybe 150 pages. Maybe > 200. > _______________________________________________ --- ### Gerry Quinn *02 Aug 2014, 11:42 · in reply to David Stockhoff* > On 01/08/2014 13:31, David Stockhoff wrote: > I'm in the same boat. What I need is a handy Aramini desk reference! It could be called 'The Wolfe Short Story Companion' or something. Maybe some clever title could be invented that alludes to the companions that frequently attach themselves to the protagonist in Wolfe's stories. - Gerry Quinn --- ### Marc Aramini *02 Aug 2014, 12:14 · in reply to Gerry Quinn* My first thought was something dramatic like "between the light and the shadow: the fiction of Gene Wolfe" (implying the undistorted object itself, but without resorting to "sun" in place of light) but I rather liked the clever book of the short fiction/book of the long fiction. Since I have more or less reached the 80s, this isn't entirely off topic- I actually think the increasing influence of Kafka, while it had atmospheric impact in a positive way for New Sun, problematizes interpretation of Wolfe. It makes the difficulty in discerning absurdity from elision a bit more prominent. The Borgesian metafiction is easier to identify and more localized (parkroads, last thrilling wonder story). The syncretic fairiefolk of cabin on the coast/friendship light/Monday men/twin mounds also open up infinite frames of reference - does logic apply as assiduously as it did in almost everything written before 1980? > On Saturday, August 2, 2014, Gerry Quinn wrote: > > On 01/08/2014 13:31, David Stockhoff wrote: > > I'm in the same boat. What I need is a handy Aramini desk reference! > > > It could be called 'The Wolfe Short Story Companion' or something. Maybe > some clever title could be invented that alludes to the companions that > frequently attach themselves to the protagonist in Wolfe's stories. > > - Gerry Quinn --- ### Marc Aramini *02 Aug 2014, 12:46 · in reply to Marc Aramini* And as I was showering, a great and terrible fear overcame me that I had written Kefka instead of Kafka once again. Final Fantasy's Kefka's influence on Wolfe would problematize reality itself. --- ### Marc Aramini *03 Aug 2014, 02:29 · in reply to Robert Pirkola* A quick note and public thank you to Matthew King for putting me in touch with a publisher willing to consider the work - the basic idea is to split the book in twain, stopping at about 1987, so the first volume, if it is accepted (let's not get too hasty) would have about half the stories. That would give me time to work on the second half, which would probably be slightly shorter. I am editing the beginning stories extensively now and incorporating some of the astute observations of the list, so hopefully no one will mind being referred to by name in the text if I quote them. I am also trying to tighten up the prose - some of the early stories were pretty rough. Thank you guys for all your kind words and support. I am also very happy with the pricing options the publisher has for physical and digital copies, so I am hoping he will accept the draft. Time to get busy, as some of the entries need some severe stylistic polish, which I can see two years removed from their composition. Thanks again! --- ### Fernando Q. Gouvea *03 Aug 2014, 16:51 · in reply to Marc Aramini* I'll chime in with the others: I'd certainly buy the book(s) and read them. And probably refer to them on re-reading the stories. I don't always agree with your interpretations, but they are always fun to read. Some years ago, the college where I teach had created a way for students to get a little bit of academic credit for taking part in a "book seminar" meeting once a week. They wanted faculty participation, so I volunteered and chose as my book /The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories and Other Stories/. It was fun, but most of the students thought the stories were far too difficult. One came to me at one point and said "You do realize that most of these book seminars are /much/ easier than this, don't you?" Alas, no, I didn't realize. The college later stopped the book seminars, probably because they felt students were getting credit for very little work... I hope you will keep at it. I'm having fun, and feel grateful for the immense amount of work you've clearly put into this. Fernando > On 7/31/2014 1:36 PM, Marc Aramini wrote: > Well, I am about 33 percent done with Wolfe's published stories after > this next one, "The Doctor of Death Island" ... I plan on skipping two > numbers and returning to "The Eyeflash Miracles" and "Seven American > Nights" after I consider them a bit more. > > I would really like to tear through the 80s more quickly than the 70s, > and it should be possible since Wolfe's time on long novels and series > vastly reduced the length and allusive depth of his short fiction. ... > However, I feel that 7 American Nights and probably Cabin on the Coast > in the early 80s marked a shift away from SF tropes to more fantastic > ones, which are a bit less easy to mark "objectively" - some stories > might actually have unresolvable mysteries, though I don't think > anything written before 1980 actually does. > > The write-ups I feel are least satisfactory are "The Green Wall Said", > "The Blue Mouse", "Paul's Treehouse" - though I think the garment > district uprising in "A Criminal Proceeding" and mentioned briefly in > "Operation ARES" can explain who is actually rioting in that story, > "Hour of Trust" (what is the name of the company running everything, > whose symbol is gold stamped instruments? That write up gave me more > problems than you would think) "The Island of Doctor Death an Other > Stories", and perhaps the Thag stories. > > I am most satisfied with "The Changeling", "Many Mansions" - (those > houses are luring people in and are merely dressed up as familiar, > tempting human houses with mimicry, and might even be planting > something, human-alien symbiotic style, inside people through the > strong drink), "The HORARS of War", and "Trip, Trap" write ups. > > I already know exactly what type of essays I will be finishing up on > Long Sun, Latro, and Home Fires, but the rest will take some time and > I might not return to New Sun until the majority of the short fiction > and shorter novels are done. > > All considered the project might be close to 2,000 pages or so when I > am done. > Of course it would need hefty revision and citation, but lately I have > considered perhaps trying to publish it upon completion - short essays > on the long fiction in front which would be my own thesis > based developments, not comprehensive looks at all, and the story > analysis section after that. A traditional publisher would never > touch it, I imagine, and it would be far too big for a small or > university press, but perhaps an ebook would work. Anyone think that > would be viable? Should I even, say, try to split it in half? Just > thought I would see what you guys thought, as this has been a WHOLE > lot of work, even though I love it. > > _______________________________________________ --- ### Marc Aramini *03 Aug 2014, 17:37 · in reply to Fernando Q. Gouvea* Thanks Fernando. When I started it I imagined it as a bit more interactive than it became (but I also think I got better at it) - the insights posters like Craig had on the metaphysical implication of Maya in The Dead Man, for example, were astouding. If you have alternative readings to some of the stuff please feel free to respond to the write ups. The eventual conclusions I think are "correct" for fifth head and short sun would have never come to me alone without significant list help. Back in 2003 or so I taught Shadow of the Torturer to a college class or two, and I used to teach "The Changeling" and "Suzanne Delage" between 2012-2013. Thanks to Gwern's little website on that one, they would find my name right away. (Before the worst conceivable scenario imaginable wound up costing me that position last December, unjust and traumatic ... and now I have been sending college teaching applications all over the US, and not one interview, none. philistines in HR departments. Believe it or not I work in a gym now ... but I do hope to teach college again, as it was the only fulfilling job I had in my life, unless writing counts.) > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Fernando Q. Gouvea > wrote: > I'll chime in with the others: I'd certainly buy the book(s) and read > them. And probably refer to them on re-reading the stories. I don't always > agree with your interpretations, but they are always fun to read. > > Some years ago, the college where I teach had created a way for students > to get a little bit of academic credit for taking part in a "book seminar" > meeting once a week. They wanted faculty participation, so I volunteered > and chose as my book *The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories and > Other Stories*. It was fun, but most of the students thought the stories > were far too difficult. One came to me at one point and said "You do > realize that most of these book seminars are *much* easier than this, > don't you?" Alas, no, I didn't realize. > > The college later stopped the book seminars, probably because they felt > students were getting credit for very little work... > > I hope you will keep at it. I'm having fun, and feel grateful for the > immense amount of work you've clearly put into this. > > Fernando > > > > On 7/31/2014 1:36 PM, Marc Aramini wrote: > > Well, I am about 33 percent done with Wolfe's published stories after > this next one, "The Doctor of Death Island" ... I plan on skipping two > numbers and returning to "The Eyeflash Miracles" and "Seven American > Nights" after I consider them a bit more. > > I would really like to tear through the 80s more quickly than the 70s, and > it should be possible since Wolfe's time on long novels and series vastly > reduced the length and allusive depth of his short fiction. ... However, I > feel that 7 American Nights and probably Cabin on the Coast in the early > 80s marked a shift away from SF tropes to more fantastic ones, which are a > bit less easy to mark "objectively" - some stories might actually have > unresolvable mysteries, though I don't think anything written before 1980 > actually does. > > The write-ups I feel are least satisfactory are "The Green Wall Said", > "The Blue Mouse", "Paul's Treehouse" - though I think the garment district > uprising in "A Criminal Proceeding" and mentioned briefly in "Operation > ARES" can explain who is actually rioting in that story, "Hour of Trust" > (what is the name of the company running everything, whose symbol is gold > stamped instruments? That write up gave me more problems than you would > think) "The Island of Doctor Death an Other Stories", and perhaps the Thag > stories. > > I am most satisfied with "The Changeling", "Many Mansions" - (those houses > are luring people in and are merely dressed up as familiar, tempting human > houses with mimicry, and might even be planting something, human-alien > symbiotic style, inside people through the strong drink), "The HORARS of > War", and "Trip, Trap" write ups. > > I already know exactly what type of essays I will be finishing up on Long > Sun, Latro, and Home Fires, but the rest will take some time and I might > not return to New Sun until the majority of the short fiction and shorter > novels are done. > > All considered the project might be close to 2,000 pages or so when I am > done. > Of course it would need hefty revision and citation, but lately I have > considered perhaps trying to publish it upon completion - short essays on > the long fiction in front which would be my own thesis based developments, > not comprehensive looks at all, and the story analysis section after that. > A traditional publisher would never touch it, I imagine, and it would be > far too big for a small or university press, but perhaps an ebook would > work. Anyone think that would be viable? Should I even, say, try to split > it in half? Just thought I would see what you guys thought, as this has > been a WHOLE lot of work, even though I love it. > > _______________________________________________ --- ### Jeffery Wilson clueland.com *04 Aug 2014, 04:37 · in reply to Marc Aramini* > On 8/3/2014 12:37 PM, Marc Aramini wrote: > Before the worst conceivable scenario > imaginable wound up costing me that position last December, unjust > and traumatic Condolences on your personal Oleanna.. > .. and now I have been sending college teaching > applications all over the US, and not one interview, none. philistines > in HR departments. Believe it or not I work in a gym nowa finished novel? So can we look forward to a finished Aramani novel? ``` Jeff Wilson - < jwilson at clueland.com > A&M Texarkana Computational Intelligence Lab < http://www.tamut.edu/cil > ``` --- ### David Stockhoff *04 Aug 2014, 15:16 · in reply to Gerry Quinn* The Wolfe Short Story and Companions' Companion . . . ? Something like that. Cleverer. > On 8/2/2014 7:42 AM, Gerry Quinn wrote: > > On 01/08/2014 13:31, David Stockhoff wrote: >> I'm in the same boat. What I need is a handy Aramini desk reference! > It could be called 'The Wolfe Short Story Companion' or something. > Maybe some clever title could be invented that alludes to the > companions that frequently attach themselves to the protagonist in > Wolfe's stories. > > - Gerry Quinn > > > _______________________________________________ ---