{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/6689", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 6689, "subject": "TBOTNS fan cover art", "messages": 5, "voices": 5, "first": "2014-10-21T20:54:18+00:00", "last": "2014-10-25T16:43:52+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<16F5C4D4-3699-49D7-91F8-C2104506D0DE@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "António Pedro Marques", "address": "entonio at gmail.com" }, "date": "2014-10-21T20:54:18+00:00", "subject": "(urth) TBOTNS fan cover art", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "No dia 21/10/2014, ?s 15:50, Gerry Quinn escreveu:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Gyoll does undoubtedly carry many a corpse anyway." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Has the name 'Gyoll' been analysed?" } ] }, { "message_id": "<0DA454A32913114C9CC19BB781FB907D014210@ETSUMB2.etsu.edu>", "from": { "name": "Norwood, Frederick Hudson", "address": "norwoodr at mail.etsu.edu" }, "date": "2014-10-22T13:37:41+00:00", "subject": "(urth) TBOTNS fan cover art", "in_reply_to": "<16F5C4D4-3699-49D7-91F8-C2104506D0DE@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Maybe something to do with Sheol?\n\nRick Norwood\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] On Behalf Of Ant?nio Pedro Marques\nSent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:54 PM\nTo: The Urth Mailing List\nSubject: Re: (urth) TBOTNS fan cover art\n\nNo dia 21/10/2014, ?s 15:50, Gerry Quinn escreveu:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Gyoll does undoubtedly carry many a corpse anyway." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Has the name 'Gyoll' been analysed?" } ] }, { "message_id": "<1413988258.2904266.182018089.29B3C346@webmail.messagingengine.com>", "from": { "name": "Mark Lewin", "address": "mark at marklewin.com" }, "date": "2014-10-22T14:30:58+00:00", "subject": "(urth) TBOTNS fan cover art", "in_reply_to": "<0DA454A32913114C9CC19BB781FB907D014210@ETSUMB2.etsu.edu>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From http://bit.ly/1x8WbXR:" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "\"Gyoll is a great river which runs through the city, in which the\napprentices have just been swimming. Its name is probably a reference to\nthe Norse Gjoll, a river which symbolized death and ran near the gates\nof Hel — not unlike the Greek Styx.\"\n\nMark" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, Oct 22, 2014, at 02:37 PM, Norwood, Frederick Hudson wrote:\nMaybe something to do with Sheol?\n\nRick Norwood\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] On Behalf Of Ant?nio\nPedro Marques\nSent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:54 PM" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Lee", "address": "severiansola at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2014-10-22T18:55:01+00:00", "subject": "(urth) TBOTNS fan cover art‏", "in_reply_to": "<1413988258.2904266.182018089.29B3C346@webmail.messagingengine.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Mark Lewin: \"Gyoll is a great river which runs through the city, in which the\napprentices have just been swimming. Its name is probably a reference to\nthe Norse Gjoll, a river which symbolized death and ran near the gates\nof Hel — not unlike the Greek Styx.\"" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Yes. \n\n\nGj?ll is also the name of the rock to which the monstrous Norse wolf,\n\nFenrir is chained. Not a reference that can be ignored when it comes to\n\nthis particular author.\n\n\nFurthermore, that river is likely represented in our world by the Rio De La \n\nPlata. The proximity to Buenos Aires (Nessus) and its estuarial nature jibes \n\nwith the presence of some oceanic beings who would seem to appear in Gyoll.\n\n\nA single literary element serving double or triple duty seems common in the \n\nworks of Gene Wolfe. \t\t \t \t\t " } ] }, { "message_id": "<544BD348.6070307@clueland.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeffery Wilson clueland.com", "address": "jwilson at clueland.com" }, "date": "2014-10-25T16:43:52+00:00", "subject": "(urth) TBOTNS fan cover art", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 10/20/2014 10:03 PM, Antonin Scriabin wrote:\nhttp://www.adijuhaszart.com/shadowclaw/\n\nThought this was cool, not sure if it has made the rounds here yet. I\nlove the imagery of the New Sun \"drowning\" in what looks like the\nflooding Gyoll. Maybe a more appropriate cover for The Citadel of the\nAutarch or Sword and Citadel, but still neat." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I would guess that is Sev tumbling into the bog in the Botanic Gardens \nwhere he finds Dorcas among the other preserved corpses." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - < jwilson at clueland.com >\nA&M Texarkana Computational Intelligence Lab\n< http://www.tamut.edu/cil >" } ] } ] }