general video discussing Wolfe and literature The Urth list — 14 messages, 7 voices, 11 Nov 2014 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/6697 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Marc Aramini — 11 Nov 2014, 11:59 I realized that I had been using youtube only for exercise videos and physical feats for years (mostly under a different channel titled "felicibusbrevis") when I could actually be talking about something worthwhile, so I made this little video yesterday. Much of this I have said in various posts, but I thought it might be neat for those who don't have time to read some of the posts to have an audio option. It has a slightly more mainstream target audience than the urth mailing list (people somewhat familiar with literary history and criticism but perhaps those who don't necessarily appreciate Wolfe). I cut some stuff out which tied my discussion of Aristotle and the early purposes of literature to Wolfe, as I felt it made this first video too long. Hope you enjoy it. (Next time I won't wear a shirt of that color.) http://youtu.be/VKw_xUI6fDE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel Otto Jack Petersen — 11 Nov 2014, 13:24 in reply to Marc Aramini Forgot to bring my headphones with me to the university library today, but I look forward to checking this out when I get home! Thanks! -DOJP > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Marc Aramini > wrote: > I realized that I had been using youtube only for exercise videos and > physical feats for years (mostly under a different channel titled > "felicibusbrevis") when I could actually be talking about something > worthwhile, so I made this little video yesterday. Much of this I have > said in various posts, but I thought it might be neat for those who don't > have time to read some of the posts to have an audio option. It has a > slightly more mainstream target audience than the urth mailing list (people > somewhat familiar with literary history and criticism but perhaps those who > don't necessarily appreciate Wolfe). I cut some stuff out which tied my > discussion of Aristotle and the early purposes of literature to Wolfe, as I > felt it made this first video too long. > > Hope you enjoy it. (Next time I won't wear a shirt of that color.) > > http://youtu.be/VKw_xUI6fDE > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark Lewin — 11 Nov 2014, 14:02 in reply to Daniel Otto Jack Petersen Love it! You make some very good points in an interesting and engaging way. More please! Mark > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014, at 01:24 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen wrote: > Forgot to bring my headphones with me to the university library today, > but I look forward to checking this out when I get home! Thanks! -DOJP > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Marc Aramini > wrote: > > I realized that I had been using youtube only for exercise videos and > > physical feats for years (mostly under a different channel titled > > "felicibusbrevis") when I could actually be talking about something > > worthwhile, so I made this little video yesterday. Much of this I > > have said in various posts, but I thought it might be neat for those > > who don't have time to read some of the posts to have an audio > > option. It has a slightly more mainstream target audience than the > > urth mailing list (people somewhat familiar with literary history and > > criticism but perhaps those who don't necessarily appreciate Wolfe). > > I cut some stuff out which tied my discussion of Aristotle and the > > early purposes of literature to Wolfe, as I felt it made this first > > video too long. > > > > Hope you enjoy it. (Next time I won't wear a shirt of that color.) > > > > http://youtu.be/VKw_xUI6fDE > > > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark Lewin — 11 Nov 2014, 14:04 in reply to Mark Lewin Oh, and because I'm nosy, what's that painting on the wall behind you Marc? It looks rather special. It certainly has a beautiful frame. Mark > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014, at 02:02 PM, Mark Lewin wrote: > Love it! You make some very good points in an interesting and engaging > way. More please! > > Mark > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014, at 01:24 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen wrote: > > Forgot to bring my headphones with me to the university library > > today, but I look forward to checking this out when I get home! > > Thanks! -DOJP > > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Marc Aramini > > wrote: > > > I realized that I had been using youtube only for exercise videos > > > and physical feats for years (mostly under a different channel > > > titled "felicibusbrevis") when I could actually be talking about > > > something worthwhile, so I made this little video yesterday. Much of > > > this I have said in various posts, but I thought it might be neat > > > for those who don't have time to read some of the posts to have an > > > audio option. It has a slightly more mainstream target audience than ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marc Aramini — 11 Nov 2014, 14:28 in reply to Mark Lewin The last supper of Leonardo da Vinci .. Can you tell I am Catholic? Heh heh. (Gaudy Italian Americans can sometimes be stereotyped pretty accurately. ). Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks! > On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Mark Lewin wrote: > Oh, and because I'm nosy, what's that painting on the wall behind you > Marc? It looks rather special. It certainly has a beautiful frame. > > Mark > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014, at 02:02 PM, Mark Lewin wrote: > > Love it! You make some very good points in an interesting and engaging > way. More please! > > Mark > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014, at 01:24 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen wrote: > > Forgot to bring my headphones with me to the university library today, but > I look forward to checking this out when I get home! Thanks! -DOJP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark Lewin — 11 Nov 2014, 15:16 in reply to Marc Aramini I was right: it was a special painting! Thanks :) Mark > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014, at 02:28 PM, Marc Aramini wrote: > The last supper of Leonardo da Vinci .. Can you tell I am Catholic? > Heh heh. (Gaudy Italian Americans can sometimes be stereotyped pretty > accurately. ). Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks! > > On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Mark Lewin wrote: > > __ > > Oh, and because I'm nosy, what's that painting on the wall behind you > > Marc? It looks rather special. It certainly has a beautiful frame. > > > > Mark > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014, at 02:02 PM, Mark Lewin wrote: > > > Love it! You make some very good points in an interesting and > > > engaging way. More please! > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014, at 01:24 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen wrote: > > > > Forgot to bring my headphones with me to the university library > > > > today, but I look forward to checking this out when I get home! > > > > Thanks! -DOJP > _________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Charles Gillingham — 11 Nov 2014, 16:12 follows, by subject match Mark Lewin Great video! Can't wait for part two. One take, and no "umms" or "likes", very impressive. Now I'll have to rush to finish Peace before you get part two out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marc Aramini — 11 Nov 2014, 17:17 in reply to Charles Gillingham There's a few uhhs in there but I try to stay energetic when the camera rolls! Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. > On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Charles Gillingham < > charlesgillingham at gmail.com> wrote: > Great video! Can't wait for part two. One take, and no "umms" or "likes", > very impressive. Now I'll have to rush to finish Peace before you get part > two out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel Otto Jack Petersen — 11 Nov 2014, 18:20 in reply to Marc Aramini Great, Marc! Loved the section on Trip Trap especially. I think I've not consciously tried to understand where Wolfe fits in between Modernism and Postmodernism all this time and I think you summed it up nicely: he kind of uses the trappings of postmodernism to undermine its commitment to utter fragmentation and subjectivity. Very sly, as you'd expect from Wolfe. I think that's why his works are so rich at many levels: that of reader enjoyment/engagement, that of deep literary analysis, that of philosophy and theology, that of sheer spirituality, that of symbolism, and so on. You get all the 'play' and 'reader-response' of pomo but with a profound sense of a deeper underlying structure that really stays put, so real it can make you shiver. Thanks. I look forward to the next. -DOJP > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Marc Aramini wrote: > There's a few uhhs in there but I try to stay energetic when the camera > rolls! Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. > > > On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Charles Gillingham < > charlesgillingham at gmail.com> wrote: > > Great video! Can't wait for part two. One take, and no "umms" or "likes", > > very impressive. Now I'll have to rush to finish Peace before you get part > > two out. > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matthew King — 11 Nov 2014, 18:39 in reply to Daniel Otto Jack Petersen > On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen wrote: > he kind of uses the trappings of postmodernism to undermine its commitment to utter fragmentation and subjectivity "Superversion" as John C. Wright calls it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marc Aramini — 11 Nov 2014, 19:12 in reply to Matthew King That's how it's done- beat 'em at their own game. Are practitioners superverts or superverters? > On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Matthew King wrote: > On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen < > danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com > wrote: > > he kind of uses the trappings of postmodernism to undermine its > > commitment to utter fragmentation and subjectivity > "Superversion" as John C. Wright calls it. > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan'l Danehy-Oakes — 11 Nov 2014, 19:18 in reply to Marc Aramini Superversionists? > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Marc Aramini > wrote: > That's how it's done- beat 'em at their own game. Are practitioners > superverts or superverters? > > > On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Matthew King wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen < > > danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: > > > he kind of uses the trappings of postmodernism to undermine its > > > commitment to utter fragmentation and subjectivity > > "Superversion" as John C. Wright calls it. > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel Otto Jack Petersen — 11 Nov 2014, 19:34 in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes Awesome. I am officially a superversive. > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > wrote: > Superversionists? > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Marc Aramini > wrote: > > That's how it's done- beat 'em at their own game. Are practitioners > > superverts or superverters? > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Matthew King > > wrote: > > > On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen < > > > danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > he kind of uses the trappings of postmodernism to undermine its > > > > commitment to utter fragmentation and subjectivity > > > "Superversion" as John C. Wright calls it. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Urth Mailing List ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Antonin Scriabin — 11 Nov 2014, 20:55 in reply to Daniel Otto Jack Petersen This was really great, subscribed. > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen < > danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: > Awesome. I am officially a superversive. > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > wrote: > > Superversionists? > > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Marc Aramini > > wrote: > > > That's how it's done- beat 'em at their own game. Are practitioners > > > superverts or superverters? > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Matthew King > > > wrote: > > > > On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen < > > > > danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > he kind of uses the trappings of postmodernism to undermine its > > > > > commitment to utter fragmentation and subjectivity > > > > "Superversion" as John C. Wright calls it. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Urth Mailing List > > > > To post, write urth at urth.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------