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  "thread": {
    "id": 670,
    "subject": "The Monsters of Urth",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1998-05-27T02:39:47+00:00",
    "last": "1998-05-27T04:32:00+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0012-0005@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "C R Culver",
        "address": "crculver at aol.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-05-27T02:39:47+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) The Monsters of Urth",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Mantis said:\n<You were trying to remember the name of the beast whose mouth is a cave--the\nname is \"Uroboros\" (II, ch. 27).>\n\nTo which Dan Parmenter responded:\n<Just how many evil giants are there swimming around anyway?  Erebus and Abaia\nseem to function like Sauron in LotR, often mentioned but never actually\nportrayed.  An entire underwater civilization is hinted at but not directly\ndepicted at any length.>\n\nThe monsters we hear about are Erebus, Abaia, Uroborous, and Scylla (the last\nmentioned, I believe, only once). I used to believe that the monsters, besides\nAbaia perhaps, did not really exist, but rather were creations of the\nlaypeople to explain the encroaching ice. But, the last few volumes seem to\nimply that an underwater civilisation is actually present.\nYour comparison to Sauron is interesting. Sauron was actually portrayed in\n_The Return of the King_ as the weak shadow that came from Barad-dur after the\ndestruction of the Ring, and also as the terrible Eye in that little orb that\nyou could see far away places in, but I guess those don't really count. In\n_Unfinished Tales_ and The Silmarillion, Sauron is a little bit more\nnoticable.\n\nChristopher R. Culver <crculver at aol.com>\nhttp://members.aol.com/crculver/index.html"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0012-0006@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "m.driussi",
        "address": "m.driussi at genie.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-05-27T04:32:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) The Monsters of Urth",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0012-0005@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "There's also Arioch (IV, ch. 1).\n\n=mantis="
        }
      ]
    }
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