# Urth Digest, Vol 161, Issue 7

*The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 18 Jan 2018*

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### Lee Pretorius
*18 Jan 2018, 17:05*

Keith have you joined the Facebook group? Marc Aramini is on there as well
so it’s very nice chats all day every day.

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>    1.  Severian of Gabala (Keith Sadler)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 17:16:14 -0600
> From: Keith Sadler <kthsdlr at gmail.com>
> To: urth at urth.net
> Subject: (urth) Severian of Gabala
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> Hello all! This is my first post on this mailing list, and thus I apologize
> in advance if I've made an error, or offered a silly question. I've been
> following and reading through for a while.
> 
> Is there anything to be read into Severian sharing a name with Severian of
> Gabala? I'm currently half through 'In Green's Jungles' in terms of the
> Solar Cycle series and I've read through a number of his other books.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severian_of_Gabala
> 
> One rather unhelpful friend suggested that Gene Wolfe was writing in a
> pre-Google era and thus it might be coincidence? I think I can be fairly
> certain that there is very little happenstance that Gene Wolfe offers in
> his worlds.
> --
> 
> 
> Keith Sadler
> about.me/keithsadler
> [image: Keith Sadler on about.me]
>   <http://about.me/keithsadler>
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 01:06:04 +0100
> From: Ab de Vos <foxyab at casema.nl>
> To: urth at lists.urth.net
> Subject: Re: (urth) Severian of Gabala
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> Hi Keith,
> 
> Probably you will make a lot of errors as everybody does who tries to
> make sense of Wolfes books. They have an impenetrable character almost
> esoteric so don't worry about it.
> 
> There is not much to connect between the two Severians except the name.
> 
> 
> Op 18-1-2018 om 00:16 schreef Keith Sadler:

>> Hello all! This is my first post on this mailing list, and thus I
>> apologize in advance if I've made an error, or offered a silly
>> question. I've been following and reading through for a while.
>> 
>> Is there anything to be read into Severian sharing a name with
>> Severian of Gabala? I'm currently half through 'In Green's Jungles' in
>> terms of the Solar Cycle series and I've read through a number of his
>> other books.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severian_of_Gabala
>> 
>> One rather unhelpful friend suggested that Gene Wolfe was writing in a
>> pre-Google era and thus it might be coincidence? I think I can be
>> fairly certain that there is very little happenstance that Gene Wolfe
>> offers in his worlds.
>> --
>> Keith Sadler
>> about.me/keithsadler
>> Keith Sadler on about.me
>> 
>> <http://about.me/keithsadler>
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________

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### Keith Sadler
*18 Jan 2018, 17:08 · in reply to Lee Pretorius*

I'll look for the Facebook group today. Thanks everyone!

> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Lee Pretorius <leepretorius1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Keith have you joined the Facebook group? Marc Aramini is on there as well
> so it’s very nice chats all day every day.
> 
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 at 16:11, <urth-request at lists.urth.net> wrote:

>> Send Urth mailing list submissions to
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>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
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>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>    1.  Severian of Gabala (Keith Sadler)
>>    2. Re:  Severian of Gabala (Ab de Vos)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 17:16:14 -0600
>> From: Keith Sadler <kthsdlr at gmail.com>
>> To: urth at urth.net
>> Subject: (urth) Severian of Gabala
>> Message-ID:
>>         <CAJ8yzhsHFTL6LRkDjHygGQJ272WFOiS0ZvAu7ir4=6LOzOCg4w at mail.
>> gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Hello all! This is my first post on this mailing list, and thus I
>> apologize
>> in advance if I've made an error, or offered a silly question. I've been
>> following and reading through for a while.
>> 
>> Is there anything to be read into Severian sharing a name with Severian of
>> Gabala? I'm currently half through 'In Green's Jungles' in terms of the
>> Solar Cycle series and I've read through a number of his other books.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severian_of_Gabala
>> 
>> One rather unhelpful friend suggested that Gene Wolfe was writing in a
>> pre-Google era and thus it might be coincidence? I think I can be fairly
>> certain that there is very little happenstance that Gene Wolfe offers in
>> his worlds.
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> Keith Sadler
>> about.me/keithsadler
>> [image: Keith Sadler on about.me]
>>   <http://about.me/keithsadler>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 01:06:04 +0100
>> From: Ab de Vos <foxyab at casema.nl>
>> To: urth at lists.urth.net
>> Subject: Re: (urth) Severian of Gabala
>> Message-ID: <f4c800dd-a627-0dae-f35b-1b445b7f124c at casema.nl>
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>> Hi Keith,
>> 
>> Probably you will make a lot of errors as everybody does who tries to
>> make sense of Wolfes books. They have an impenetrable character almost
>> esoteric so don't worry about it.
>> 
>> There is not much to connect between the two Severians except the name.
>> 
>> 
>> Op 18-1-2018 om 00:16 schreef Keith Sadler:

>>> Hello all! This is my first post on this mailing list, and thus I
>>> apologize in advance if I've made an error, or offered a silly
>>> question. I've been following and reading through for a while.
>>> 
>>> Is there anything to be read into Severian sharing a name with
>>> Severian of Gabala? I'm currently half through 'In Green's Jungles' in
>>> terms of the Solar Cycle series and I've read through a number of his
>>> other books.
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severian_of_Gabala
>>> 
>>> One rather unhelpful friend suggested that Gene Wolfe was writing in a
>>> pre-Google era and thus it might be coincidence? I think I can be
>>> fairly certain that there is very little happenstance that Gene Wolfe
>>> offers in his worlds.
>>> --
>>> Keith Sadler
>>> about.me/keithsadler
>>> Keith Sadler on about.me
>>> 
>>> <http://about.me/keithsadler>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________

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