{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/6800", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 6800, "subject": "wizard knight writeup", "messages": 4, "voices": 2, "first": "2018-07-01T06:51:25+00:00", "last": "2018-07-02T13:52:11+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at gmail.com" }, "date": "2018-07-01T06:51:25+00:00", "subject": "(urth) wizard knight writeup", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Here is my essay on Wizard Knight. I opted for exhaustiveness in the second\nto last section rather than brevity, so that the patterns become,\nhopefully, obvious.This was one writeup where a lot of people contributed,\nbut sometimes the comments were very close to what others said or were\nsubtle distinctions. I appreciate all the help on this one. The\nintroduction to vol 3 of my book will have the names of people who\ndefinitely contributed to the WK formation, like Ab de Vos, Antonio Pedro\nMarques, David Stockhoff, Robert Pirkola, Andrew Bollen, and others. I will\nbe sure to review all the threads in my email and verify name spellings as\nwell. Good for four weeks. THREE ESSAYS LEFT TO FINISH\n\nhttps://pastebin.com/WZ0QHrRv" } ] }, { "message_id": "<8ba7a5dc-6a70-0779-ff2a-cf7e5a34783f@casema.nl>", "from": { "name": "Ab de Vos", "address": "foxyab at casema.nl" }, "date": "2018-07-01T13:12:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) wizard knight writeup", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Great, Marc, hope you spell my name right. 8-)\n\n\nOp 1-7-2018 om 08:51 schreef Marc Aramini:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Here is my essay on Wizard Knight. I opted for exhaustiveness in the \nsecond to last section rather than brevity, so that the patterns \nbecome, hopefully, obvious.This was one writeup where a lot of people \ncontributed, but sometimes the comments were very close to what others \nsaid or were subtle distinctions. I appreciate all the help on this \none. The introduction to vol 3 of my book will have the names of \npeople who definitely contributed to the WK formation, like Ab de Vos, \nAntonio Pedro Marques, David Stockhoff, Robert Pirkola, Andrew Bollen, \nand others. I will be sure to review all the threads in my email and \nverify name spellings as well. Good for four weeks. THREE ESSAYS LEFT \nTO FINISH\n\nhttps://pastebin.com/WZ0QHrRv\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at gmail.com" }, "date": "2018-07-01T13:19:39+00:00", "subject": "(urth) wizard knight writeup", "in_reply_to": "<8ba7a5dc-6a70-0779-ff2a-cf7e5a34783f@casema.nl>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Definitely a tough one - my last name has more syllables if I say it right\n;) I’m happy with this essay but just like all the ones in which I try to\nbe as precise as possible no doubt the second to last section drags. I\nthink it establishes the cyclic pattern that is repeated over and over with\nminor variations convincingly, and I really believe Wolfe did structure it\nafter Jungian individuation through archetypes with nonlinear but\nincreasingly actualized dream patterns." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Sunday, July 1, 2018, Ab de Vos wrote:\nGreat, Marc, hope you spell my name right. 8-)\n\nOp 1-7-2018 om 08:51 schreef Marc Aramini:\n\n\n\nHere is my essay on Wizard Knight. I opted for exhaustiveness in the\nsecond to last section rather than brevity, so that the patterns become,\nhopefully, obvious.This was one writeup where a lot of people contributed,\nbut sometimes the comments were very close to what others said or were\nsubtle distinctions. I appreciate all the help on this one. The\nintroduction to vol 3 of my book will have the names of people who\ndefinitely contributed to the WK formation, like Ab de Vos, Antonio Pedro\nMarques, David Stockhoff, Robert Pirkola, Andrew Bollen, and others. I will\nbe sure to review all the threads in my email and verify name spellings as\nwell. Good for four weeks. THREE ESSAYS LEFT TO FINISH\n\nhttps://pastebin.com/WZ0QHrRv\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at gmail.com" }, "date": "2018-07-02T13:52:11+00:00", "subject": "(urth) wizard knight writeup", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I accidentally sent the following only to Ab, but I think it is relevant to\nthe whole list, as I came to a realization. Able runs through the green\ntube where Mag's letter is supposed to be in the Room of Lost Love to\nreturn to Mythgarthr, the tube expanding to contain him. At the end, Able\nactually becomes the letter which Michael will deliver to his mother and\nbrother in dreams, whether they understand it or not. Thus the blended\nknowledge of America, lives mixed up, etc. I think a paragraph or two in\nthe writeup can clear this up, but I chose the correct title.\n\nIt came to me today how Michael is going to deliver Able’s letter. When he" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "meets Michael, Michael says he realizes able’s mother never knew him. Then\nhe says able should ask whence came the tongs that grasp eterne (by the end\neterne, like idnn, is life and growth in that black pavilion- the green\nstick of fecundity.) the tongs that grasp burgeoning life as it is forged -\nthe mother. At one point able thinks that he just might be a memory or\ndream kulili or disiri has. Michael leaves able and jumps down to seek out\nable of the high heart ... in the room of lost love, mag reads her letter\nbut there is nothing in the green tube - it is written in the language of\nthe heart. My realization: Michael at the end is going to send a dream of\nAble to his mother and brother on earth. That’s the letter. It follows\ncircular dream logic so they will know the truth of Able symbolically. It\nreally is his mother’s dream, a gift of Michael out of pity for an unborn\nchild who gave up his life so that both brothers would not die. Thus the\n“play” able talks of with the puppy, and of the play to come - more dreams\nof him." } ] } ] }