# Uncaged

*The Urth list — 5 messages, 3 voices, 21 Sep 2019*

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### Ab de Vos
*21 Sep 2019, 13:47*

Hi there,

I just read Uncaged a story by Wolfe collected in 'Rags and Bones' about 
a shape shifting lady. It seems a rather straightforward story but maybe 
it isn't. Neil 'American Gods' Gaiman is one of the collectors. What was 
his relationship with Gene Wolfe? He acted once the great defender of 
George 'Winter where art thou' Martin after complaints by fans about the 
next installment who feared Martin would do a 'Robert Jordan' on them.

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### Ab de Vos
*21 Sep 2019, 13:49 · follows Ab de Vos*

Hi there,

I just read Uncaged a story by Wolfe collected in 'Rags and Bones' about 
a shape shifting lady. It seems a rather straightforward story but maybe 
it isn't. Neil 'American Gods' Gaiman is one of the collectors. What was 
his relationship with Gene Wolfe? He acted once the great defender of 
George 'Winter where art thou' Martin after complaints by fans about the 
next installment who feared Martin would do a 'Robert Jordan' on them.

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### Mo Holkar
*21 Sep 2019, 15:41 · in reply to Ab de Vos*

Wolfe and Gaiman were good friends, see eg: 
<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/may/13/gene-wolfe-hero-neil-gaiman-sf>https://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/may/13/gene-wolfe-hero-neil-gaiman-sf

And worked together on A Walking Tour of the Shambles: 
<https://www.amazon.co.uk/Walking-Tour-Shambles-Neil-Gaiman/dp/0961035269>https://www.amazon.co.uk/Walking-Tour-Shambles-Neil-Gaiman/dp/0961035269

best,

Mo

> At 14:49 21/09/2019, you wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I just read Uncaged a story by Wolfe collected in 'Rags and Bones' 
> about a shape shifting lady. It seems a rather straightforward story 
> but maybe it isn't. Neil 'American Gods' Gaiman is one of the 
> collectors. What was his relationship with Gene Wolfe? He acted once 
> the great defender of George 'Winter where art thou' Martin after 
> complaints by fans about the next installment who feared Martin 
> would do a 'Robert Jordan' on them.
> 
> _______________________________________________

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### Fred Kiesche
*21 Sep 2019, 18:51 · in reply to Mo Holkar*

And more:

"How to Read Gene Wolfe"

https://www.sfsite.com/fsf/2007/gwng0704.htm

In that fancy Folio Society edition:

https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/neil-gaiman-gene-wolfe-folio-society/

Quality is bad on the video, but they even rode a merry-go-round together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2k_6zclwTs

> On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 11:41 AM Mo Holkar <mo at holkar.net> wrote:
> Wolfe and Gaiman were good friends, see eg:
> <
> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/may/13/gene-wolfe-hero-neil-gaiman-sf

> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/may/13/gene-wolfe-hero-neil-gaiman-sf
> 
> And worked together on A Walking Tour of the Shambles:
> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Walking-Tour-Shambles-Neil-Gaiman/dp/0961035269>
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Walking-Tour-Shambles-Neil-Gaiman/dp/0961035269
> 
> best,
> 
> Mo
> 
> 
> 
> At 14:49 21/09/2019, you wrote:

>> Hi there,
>> 
>> I just read Uncaged a story by Wolfe collected in 'Rags and Bones'
>> about a shape shifting lady. It seems a rather straightforward story
>> but maybe it isn't. Neil 'American Gods' Gaiman is one of the
>> collectors. What was his relationship with Gene Wolfe? He acted once
>> the great defender of George 'Winter where art thou' Martin after
>> complaints by fans about the next installment who feared Martin
>> would do a 'Robert Jordan' on them.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________

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### Ab de Vos
*21 Sep 2019, 21:43 · in reply to Fred Kiesche*

Thanks, the special F & SF issue dedicated tot Wolfe is in my 
possession. I never read it though. I am not a great fan of Folio 
editions. For instance the Kipling Short Stories I like better in the 
old Macmillan edition with the elephant and swastika, the Folio's are 
too big.

Op 21-9-2019 om 20:51 schreef Fred Kiesche:

> And more:
> 
> "How to Read Gene Wolfe"
> 
> https://www.sfsite.com/fsf/2007/gwng0704.htm
> 
> In that fancy Folio Society edition:
> 
> https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/neil-gaiman-gene-wolfe-folio-society/
> 
> Quality is bad on the video, but they even rode a merry-go-round together.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2k_6zclwTs
> 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 11:41 AM Mo Holkar <mo at holkar.net 
> <mailto:mo at holkar.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Wolfe and Gaiman were good friends, see eg:
>     <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/may/13/gene-wolfe-hero-neil-gaiman-sf>https://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/may/13/gene-wolfe-hero-neil-gaiman-sf
> 
>     And worked together on A Walking Tour of the Shambles:
>     <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Walking-Tour-Shambles-Neil-Gaiman/dp/0961035269>https://www.amazon.co.uk/Walking-Tour-Shambles-Neil-Gaiman/dp/0961035269
> 
>     best,
> 
>     Mo
> 
> 
> 
>     At 14:49 21/09/2019, you wrote:
>     >Hi there,
>     >
>     >I just read Uncaged a story by Wolfe collected in 'Rags and Bones'
>     >about a shape shifting lady. It seems a rather straightforward story
>     >but maybe it isn't. Neil 'American Gods' Gaiman is one of the
>     >collectors. What was his relationship with Gene Wolfe? He acted once
>     >the great defender of George 'Winter where art thou' Martin after
>     >complaints by fans about the next installment who feared Martin
>     >would do a 'Robert Jordan' on them.
>     >
>     >_______________________________________________

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