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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Aishling Mooney — 31 Jan 2020, 08:05 > On Thu, 30 Jan 2020, 21:23 , wrote: > Send Urth mailing list submissions to > urth at lists.urth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.urth.net/listinfo.cgi/urth-urth.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > urth-request at lists.urth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > urth-owner at lists.urth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Urth digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [EXTERNAL] Wolfe & Women (Charles Gillingham) > 2. Re: [EXTERNAL] Wolfe & Women (Ryan Dunn) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 10:51:12 -0800 > From: Charles Gillingham > To: The Urth Mailing List > Subject: Re: (urth) [EXTERNAL] Wolfe & Women > Message-ID: > < > CAMoqiH46im5BKQBwpVQunX__0qhyNkWfdkDZHoNF5TPT2zDoYg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > "Idiot" is an ableist slur... > > Some of the most vulgar societies were the most stable. Walking down any > given street in Augustus' Rome would have disgusted us. The graffiti > in Pompeii was worse than any I've seen growing up in the hood. Evolution > isn't always a clean or polite process. The battle of ideas is just as > dirty and violent as any other battle for survival. > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 10:32 AM Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > wrote: > > If you can't figure out a way to politely tell someone that they are an > > idiot who should go jump off a pier, your linguistic skills are sadly > > lacking. And that is no excuse for rudeness. > > > > Papa Heinlein, he say: when courtesy goes by the wayside, that > > civilization is in decline. > > > > Note also that "civil" and "civilization" are intimately related words. > > > > Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > > > > *Maka ki ecela tehani yanke lo!* > > *--*T?a???ke Witk? > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 9:11 AM Charles Gillingham < > > charlesgillingham at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Controlling speech is just one step away from controlling thought, which > > > is controlling action. Freedom of speech isn't freedom to compliment or > > > placate or agree with the majority (or belligerent minority, in this > > > case). > > > It's freedom to disagree with authority, to be rude and controversial. > But > sure if you want to be polite when someone tells you to come with them, > go > ahead be as nice as you want. > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 8:08 AM Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > > > wrote: > > > > Rick, you got it in one. > > > > > > > > I'm someone who occasionally says some of those rude things. I'm old > > > > enough to remember when it was "normal". But I come down fully on the > > > > side > > > > of "political correctness", or, as it is properly know, *politeness*. > > > > > > > > Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > > > > > > > > *Maka ki ecela tehani yanke lo!* > > > > *--*T?a???ke Witk? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 4:27 AM Norwood, Frederick Hudson < > > > > NORWOODR at mail.etsu.edu> wrote: > > > > > In my experience, people who complain about having to be “politically > > > > > correct” are people who want to say rude things and are really > > > > > complaining > > > > > about not being allowed to be rude. > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Urth [mailto:urth-bounces at lists.urth.net] *On Behalf Of *Gem > > > > > Caccetta > > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 29, 2020 2:15 PM > > > > > *To:* urth at lists.urth.net > > > > > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] (urth) Wolfe & Women > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed Jan 29 2020 Ab de Dos wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "I believe the politically correct accuse Wolfe likewise of being a > > > > > christian misogynist?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know Wolfe’s portrayal of women has been discussed many times on > > > > > this > > > > > list. I found this tidbit from my recent re-reading of Free Live Free > > > > > interesting: > > > > > > > > > > Free says??You like women, don’t you, Mr. Barnes? > > > > > > > > > > “Like them?” Taken off guard Barnes considered for a moment. “Not > > > > > really. I want them, and since I can’t have them, usually, I don’t > > > > > like > > > > > them. But I want them, I suppose you could say that. I admire Madame > > > > > Serpentina.” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn’t be surprised if this was Wolfe’s own attitude toward women > > > > > speaking through Barnes. He could find things to admire in some > > > > > women, but > > > > > he didn’t really like them. Just my guess, for what it’s worth. > > > > > > > > > > *The [EXTERNAL] tag in the subject line identifies emails that do NOT > > > > > originate from an ETSU person or service. Please exercise caution when > > > > > handling emails from external sources. 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