Urth Digest, Vol 186, Issue 4

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, 05:39 , <urth-request at lists.urth.net> wrote: Send Urth mailing list submissions to urth at lists.urth.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.urth.net/listinfo.cgi/urth-urth.net or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to urth-request at lists.urth.net You can reach the person managing the list at urth-owner at lists.urth.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Urth digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter (Norwood, Frederick Hudson) 2. Re: [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter (Mark Millman) 3. Re: [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter (David Stockhoff) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 22:13:00 +0000 From: "Norwood, Frederick Hudson" <NORWOODR at mail.etsu.edu> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> Subject: Re: (urth) [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter Message-ID: < BN7PR07MB4228E7117A31EBE5B522B3CB82CE0 at BN7PR07MB4228.namprd07.prod.outlook.com

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In Urth of the New Son, Wolfe did almost everything differently from what the reading expected, including a compass having six points and south being at the south. Another example is that, in the end end the first book, instead of reaching their destination, the characters are just leaving the city they started in. Another is that, at one point, we find out that the man is the master and the master is the man. It is one of the book's charms. I do not know if this carries over into Book of the Long Sun and Book of the Short Sun. Also Book of the New Sun is a trilogy in four (or five) volumes. Best, Rick ________________________________ From: Urth <urth-bounces at lists.urth.net> on behalf of David Stockhoff < dstockhoff at verizon.net> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 11:43 AM To: urth at lists.urth.net <urth at lists.urth.net> Subject: Re: (urth) [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter Can you explain more about the 6 compass points? Sounds like it would lend itself to a hexmap, which I have not seen done. There is a theory about how far Wolfe took the reversal thing. I am not sure I can describe it verbally, but it involves moving Bueno Aires to the other side of the Andes by flipping the globe. It seems to work. On 12/6/2020 4:05 PM, Norwood, Frederick Hudson wrote: The most important thing is to have six cardinal points of the compass, not four. Second, to have south be up. I'm not certain that the people from earth carry this over to the new sun, but it would indicate an awareness that, in this series, Wolfe deliberately did everything different from the way we do things. Best, Rick Norwood ________________________________ From: Urth <urth-bounces at lists.urth.net><mailto: urth-bounces at lists.urth.net> on behalf of Fernando Gouvea < fqgouvea at colby.edu><mailto:fqgouvea at colby.edu> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 8:54 AM To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net><mailto:urth at lists.urth.net

Subject: [EXTERNAL] (urth) from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter ??? Centipede Press <jerad at centipedepress.com><mailto:jerad at centipedepress.com> asks: Okay. I might be sorry I asked this, but who are the ???Gene Wolfe??? people out there? As you know, I am doing new editions of the six-book The Book of the New Sun series. One nice thing to have would be new maps. I found an artist in France who does this sort of work with flair and panache, but the artist is looking for help with the basic structure of the The Book of the New Sun???s world. If you???re the Gene Wolfe fan who obsesses over this, and has rigorously analyzed all of the maps thus far created (there???s one on Wikipedia, and one created by Gurps, too, among several others)?????????your help is requested with this project. All I need to know is what is (are) considered the most regarded and considered the most accurate map(s). My map maker can extrapolate from there and make it into something amazing. If you???re that person, who???s really really really into this, and who knows the subject backwards and forwards, please give me a shout! -- ============================================================= Fernando Q. Gouvea http://www.colby.edu/~fqgouvea Carter Professor of Mathematics Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics Colby College 5836 Mayflower Hill Waterville, ME 04901 The rule is: any movie with a dad is a movie with a bad dad. -- Frederica Mathewes-Green The [EXTERNAL] tag in the subject line identifies emails that do NOT originate from an ETSU person or service. Please exercise caution when handling emails from external sources. Any email that is unsolicited and requires you to take immediate action, appears to be forged or is PHISHING for information can be verified by emailing the ITS Help Desk. _______________________________________________ Urth Mailing List To post, write urth at urth.net<mailto:urth at urth.net> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net ________________________________ [Avast logo] <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20201207/49de90a1/attachment-0001.html

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