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    "subject": "Urth Digest, Vol 186, Issue 4",
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    "first": "2020-12-14T17:13:32+00:00",
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      "from": {
        "name": "Aishling Mooney",
        "address": "aislingmooney777 at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2020-12-14T17:13:32+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Urth Digest, Vol 186, Issue 4",
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          "text": "Please unsubscribe me from this list aislingmooney777 at gmail.com"
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          "text": "On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, 05:39 , <urth-request at lists.urth.net> wrote:\nSend Urth mailing list submissions to\n        urth at lists.urth.net\n\nTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit\n        http://lists.urth.net/listinfo.cgi/urth-urth.net\nor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to\n        urth-request at lists.urth.net\n\nYou can reach the person managing the list at\n        urth-owner at lists.urth.net\n\nWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific\nthan \"Re: Contents of Urth digest...\"\n\n\nToday's Topics:\n\n   1. Re:  [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter\n      (Norwood, Frederick Hudson)\n   2. Re:  [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter\n      (Mark Millman)\n   3. Re:  [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter\n      (David Stockhoff)\n\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nMessage: 1\nDate: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 22:13:00 +0000\nFrom: \"Norwood, Frederick Hudson\" <NORWOODR at mail.etsu.edu>\nTo: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>\nSubject: Re: (urth) [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly\n        newsletter\nMessage-ID:\n        <\nBN7PR07MB4228E7117A31EBE5B522B3CB82CE0 at BN7PR07MB4228.namprd07.prod.outlook.com"
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          "text": "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=\"iso-8859-1\"\n\nIn Urth of the New Son, Wolfe did almost everything differently from what\nthe reading expected, including a compass having six points and south being\nat the south. Another example is that, in the end end the first book,\ninstead of reaching their destination, the characters are just leaving the\ncity they started in. Another is that, at one point, we find out that the\nman is the master and the master is the man. It is one of the book's charms.\n\nI do not know if this carries over into Book of the Long Sun and Book of\nthe Short Sun.\n\nAlso Book of the New Sun is a trilogy in four (or five) volumes.\n\nBest,\nRick\n\n________________________________\nFrom: Urth <urth-bounces at lists.urth.net> on behalf of David Stockhoff <\ndstockhoff at verizon.net>\nSent: Monday, December 7, 2020 11:43 AM\nTo: urth at lists.urth.net <urth at lists.urth.net>\nSubject: Re: (urth) [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter\n\n\nCan you explain more about the 6 compass points? Sounds like it would lend\nitself to a hexmap, which I have not seen done.\n\n\nThere is a theory about how far Wolfe took the reversal thing. I am not\nsure I can describe it verbally, but it involves moving Bueno Aires to the\nother side of the Andes by flipping the globe. It seems to work.\n\n\nOn 12/6/2020 4:05 PM, Norwood, Frederick Hudson wrote:\nThe most important thing is to have six cardinal points of the compass,\nnot four. Second, to have south be up. I'm not certain that the people from\nearth carry this over to the new sun, but it would indicate an awareness\nthat, in this series, Wolfe deliberately did everything different from the\nway we do things.\n\nBest,\nRick Norwood\n\n________________________________\nFrom: Urth <urth-bounces at lists.urth.net><mailto:\nurth-bounces at lists.urth.net> on behalf of Fernando Gouvea <\nfqgouvea at colby.edu><mailto:fqgouvea at colby.edu>\nSent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 8:54 AM\nTo: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net><mailto:urth at lists.urth.net"
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          "text": "Subject: [EXTERNAL] (urth) from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter\n???\n\nCentipede Press <jerad at centipedepress.com><mailto:jerad at centipedepress.com>\nasks:\n\nOkay. I might be sorry I asked this, but who are the ???Gene Wolfe???\npeople out there? As you know, I am doing new editions of the six-book The\nBook of the New Sun series. One nice thing to have would be new maps. I\nfound an artist in France who does this sort of work with flair and\npanache, but the artist is looking for help with the basic structure of the\nThe Book of the New Sun???s world. If you???re the Gene Wolfe fan who\nobsesses over this, and has rigorously analyzed all of the maps thus far\ncreated (there???s one on Wikipedia, and one created by Gurps, too, among\nseveral others)?????????your help is requested with this project. All I\nneed to know is what is (are) considered the most regarded and considered\nthe most accurate map(s). My map maker can extrapolate from there and make\nit into something amazing. If you???re that person, who???s really really\nreally into this, and who knows the subject backwards and forwards, please\ngive me a shout!\n\n\n--\n=============================================================\nFernando Q. Gouvea         http://www.colby.edu/~fqgouvea\nCarter Professor of Mathematics\nDept. of Mathematics and Statistics\nColby College\n5836 Mayflower Hill\nWaterville, ME 04901\n\nThe rule is: any movie with a dad is a movie with a bad dad.\n  -- Frederica Mathewes-Green\n\n\n\nThe [EXTERNAL] tag in the subject line identifies emails that do NOT\noriginate from an ETSU person or service. Please exercise caution when\nhandling emails from external sources. Any email that is unsolicited and\nrequires you to take immediate action, appears to be forged or is PHISHING\nfor information can be verified by emailing the ITS Help Desk.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nUrth Mailing List\nTo post, write urth at urth.net<mailto:urth at urth.net>\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net\n\n\n________________________________\n[Avast logo] <https://www.avast.com/antivirus>\n\nThis email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.\nwww.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/antivirus>\n\n-------------- next part --------------\nAn HTML attachment was scrubbed...\nURL: <\nhttp://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20201207/49de90a1/attachment-0001.html"
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          "text": "------------------------------\n\nMessage: 2\nDate: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 17:35:19 -0500\nFrom: Mark Millman <markjmillman at gmail.com>"
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