# Urth Digest, Vol 186, Issue 4 *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 14 Dec 2020* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Aishling Mooney *14 Dec 2020, 17:13* Please unsubscribe me from this list aislingmooney777 at gmail.com > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, 05:39 , wrote: > Send Urth mailing list submissions to > urth at lists.urth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.urth.net/listinfo.cgi/urth-urth.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > urth-request at lists.urth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > urth-owner at lists.urth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Urth digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter > (Norwood, Frederick Hudson) > 2. Re: [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter > (Mark Millman) > 3. Re: [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter > (David Stockhoff) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 22:13:00 +0000 > From: "Norwood, Frederick Hudson" > To: The Urth Mailing List > Subject: Re: (urth) [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly > newsletter > Message-ID: > < > BN7PR07MB4228E7117A31EBE5B522B3CB82CE0 at BN7PR07MB4228.namprd07.prod.outlook.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > In Urth of the New Son, Wolfe did almost everything differently from what > the reading expected, including a compass having six points and south being > at the south. Another example is that, in the end end the first book, > instead of reaching their destination, the characters are just leaving the > city they started in. Another is that, at one point, we find out that the > man is the master and the master is the man. It is one of the book's charms. > > I do not know if this carries over into Book of the Long Sun and Book of > the Short Sun. > > Also Book of the New Sun is a trilogy in four (or five) volumes. > > Best, > Rick > > ________________________________ > From: Urth on behalf of David Stockhoff < > dstockhoff at verizon.net> > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 11:43 AM > To: urth at lists.urth.net > Subject: Re: (urth) [EXTERNAL] from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter > > > Can you explain more about the 6 compass points? Sounds like it would lend > itself to a hexmap, which I have not seen done. > > > There is a theory about how far Wolfe took the reversal thing. I am not > sure I can describe it verbally, but it involves moving Bueno Aires to the > other side of the Andes by flipping the globe. It seems to work. > > > On 12/6/2020 4:05 PM, Norwood, Frederick Hudson wrote: > The most important thing is to have six cardinal points of the compass, > not four. Second, to have south be up. I'm not certain that the people from > earth carry this over to the new sun, but it would indicate an awareness > that, in this series, Wolfe deliberately did everything different from the > way we do things. > > Best, > Rick Norwood > > ________________________________ > From: Urth urth-bounces at lists.urth.net> on behalf of Fernando Gouvea < > fqgouvea at colby.edu> > Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 8:54 AM > To: The Urth Mailing List Subject: [EXTERNAL] (urth) from the Centipede Press weekly newsletter > ??? > > Centipede Press > asks: > > Okay. I might be sorry I asked this, but who are the ???Gene Wolfe??? > people out there? As you know, I am doing new editions of the six-book The > Book of the New Sun series. One nice thing to have would be new maps. I > found an artist in France who does this sort of work with flair and > panache, but the artist is looking for help with the basic structure of the > The Book of the New Sun???s world. If you???re the Gene Wolfe fan who > obsesses over this, and has rigorously analyzed all of the maps thus far > created (there???s one on Wikipedia, and one created by Gurps, too, among > several others)?????????your help is requested with this project. All I > need to know is what is (are) considered the most regarded and considered > the most accurate map(s). My map maker can extrapolate from there and make > it into something amazing. If you???re that person, who???s really really > really into this, and who knows the subject backwards and forwards, please > give me a shout! > > > -- > ============================================================= > Fernando Q. Gouvea http://www.colby.edu/~fqgouvea > Carter Professor of Mathematics > Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics > Colby College > 5836 Mayflower Hill > Waterville, ME 04901 > > The rule is: any movie with a dad is a movie with a bad dad. > -- Frederica Mathewes-Green > > > > The [EXTERNAL] tag in the subject line identifies emails that do NOT > originate from an ETSU person or service. Please exercise caution when > handling emails from external sources. 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