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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/837",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 837,
    "subject": "V.R.T. and Marsch",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1998-06-20T13:08:11+00:00",
    "last": "1998-06-20T13:08:11+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0014-0062@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "adam louis stephanides",
        "address": "astephan at students.uiuc.edu"
      },
      "date": "1998-06-20T13:08:11+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) V.R.T. and Marsch",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "William Ansley writes:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I assume that you mean personality merging when you say \"otherwise\nunmentioned ability in V.R.T.\" alga is the one who suggested the merger\ntheory, not me. I don't accept it any more than you do, as I attempted to\nsay in the message you are quoting from. "
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "You said so clearly; the misapprehension was my fault.  When I wrote that\npost I was in a sleep-deprived state, so my brain was not at its best."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": " I find the \"Are you a clone?\"\npassage strange for the precise reasons you do, as I also attempted to say\nin an earlier message."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Likewise, apologies for not recalling this."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Although I can't recall any direct evidence right now, I certainly got the\nimpression in 5HC that the whole clone business was kept a deep, dark\nsecret and successfully so. Thus, I find the idea of VRT having some other\nsource of knowledge about the Wolfes unlikely."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": " \nYou may well be right, which is why I thought it perhaps more likely that\nV.R.T. had seen a photograph of Maitre.  OTOH, #5 has been seen in public;\npresumably so was Maitre at his age, since Maitre wants #5's upbringing as\nwell as his heredity to be as close to his own as possible.  It's not\nimpossible that someone old enough to have seen them both could note the\nidentical appearances and draw the correct conclusion, or even make a\nguess based on comparing #5's appearance with Maitre's current appearance."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "My feeling right now is that VRT just guessed right about #5 being a\nclone."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I still feel that it's too implausible for V.R.T. to have guessed this\nbased on just the information we are explicitly told he had (and unlike #5\nin the last interview, he is presumably not trying to be offensive)."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "For two guys who agree so much we are exchanging a lot of messages. 8-)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "But that's the kind of exchange I like best!\n\nRobert Borski writes: "
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Recently, Adam-Louis Stephanides, among others, has wondered:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "No hyphen; it's a first, middle and last name.  (And I never use my middle\nname except on official documents; the university's network automatically\n\"signs\" my email with it.  Not that it makes much difference to me, but\nsince this is the Wolfe list and names are so important to Wolfe...)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "\"But even if V.R.T. had somehow inherited Marsch's knowledge, how would\nthat tell him #5's a clone?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Several answers suggest themselves about Marsch's knowledge re the Number\nFive-Maitre clone connection:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "[instances of contact between V.R.T. and Maitre and Aunt Jeannine cited] \n\nThe instances you cite explain how Marsch knew to reseearch\nanthropological relaxation before the final interview.  But the passage I\nwas querying took place during V.R.T.'s first meeting with #5, which\nappears to be V.R.T.'s first direct contact of any kind with the Wolfes."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "scolex/Robert Borski (who's been very busy converting CAVE CANEM to HTML,\nso he can spread his heretical notions about 5TH HEAD all over the\nelectronic globe)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": " \nGreat!  I'm looking forward to seeing it.\n\n--Adam"
        }
      ]
    }
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