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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/863",
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  "archive": "urth",
  "thread": {
    "id": 863,
    "subject": "Fanfic.  Ack!",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1998-06-26T11:34:29+00:00",
    "last": "1998-06-26T23:13:07+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0015-0026@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan Parmenter",
        "address": "dan at lec.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-06-26T11:34:29+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Fanfic.  Ack!",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I for one would be kind of disappointed by the concept of Wolfe fan\nfiction.  The fan fiction movement, while not without its merits\n(anything that encourages people to take up creative writing can't be\na bad thing) has always struck me as one of the saddest parts about SF\nfandom as a whole since it seems to emphasize characters as abstract\nentities outside of an concept of authors.  This isn't surprsing in\nthe context of Star Trek where there was never any one original\n\"author\", but for the concept to be applied to the work of a novelist,\nit seems quite strange.  Of course if you call it a \"literary\npastiche\" then it's not mere fanfic and is thus limked to more\nestablished literary forms; indeed, Wolfe himself has written at least\none Sherlock Holmes pastiche (most people have, it seems).\n\nThe amount of fanfic on the net never ceases to amaze me.  I do a lot\nof searching on the web for my job and it's not unusual for the most\nordinary-seeming searches to turn up references to fanfic based on\nsome TV show or other.  Unbelievable!  Why don't people want to write\ntheir own stories about their own characters?\n\nD"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0015-0027@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "William H. Ansley",
        "address": "wansley at warwick.net"
      },
      "date": "1998-06-26T23:13:07+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Fanfic.  Ack!",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0015-0026@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "The fan fiction movement, while not without its merits\n(anything that encourages people to take up creative writing can't be\na bad thing) has always struck me as one of the saddest parts about SF\nfandom as a whole since it seems to emphasize characters as abstract\nentities outside of an concept of authors."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Too true, too true!"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "The amount of fanfic on the net never ceases to amaze me.  I do a lot\nof searching on the web for my job and it's not unusual for the most\nordinary-seeming searches to turn up references to fanfic based on\nsome TV show or other.  Unbelievable!  Why don't people want to write\ntheir own stories about their own characters?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I would guess, as with most things, because it's easier for them to be\nunoriginal.\n\nNow my own little effort in this area, while it may seem similar on the\nsurface, is quite a different kettle of fish. I am working on a screenplay\nfor next summer's blockbuster film, _The X Head of Cerberus_, which will\nsend Agents Mulder and Scully to St. Croix to investigate.\n\nIt's a natural! Clones, shape shifters and aliens who may not be aliens.\nComplex government bureaucracies engaged in elaborate conspiracies and\ncover-ups. Absolutely X-Files territory. And the best thing is, just like\nWolfe's books Mulder's and Scully's investigations never resolve anything!\n\nI be posting the first draft soon on my \"Chris Carter-Gene Wolfe Worship Page\".\n\nWilliam Ansley\n\n\n[Need I say I'm only kidding?]"
        }
      ]
    }
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