# And the sky is gray.... *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 09 Jul 1997* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Alice Turner *09 Jul 1997, 11:49* Ron, I'm sort of amazed that you don't see the antichrist motif for "Hues"---to me it seems laid on with a trowel, from the title through all the "shadow" imagery through the explicit references to hell. I agree with you about 230011, but not about Marylin=Mary; to me that's Wolfe being not nearly as subtle as usual. It *is* a pulpy story! Re "I am the master": let's not forget Baldanders and Dr. Talos. Also, there's some indication that Ossipago is the leader of the three wise cacogens. I would vote for Polyaris simply being a cute take on Polaris, and suggest that we are trying too hard to make more of the name. On Kyle: Wolfe used Kyle as a name in another of the stories collected in Endangered Species. I'm not at home, so can't check which. But I did note that the stories were written years apart, so it might just be coincidental. -alga- ---