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  "thread": {
    "id": 892,
    "subject": "Fifth Head of Cerberus, Beuzec",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "1998-07-02T17:59:46+00:00",
    "last": "1998-07-03T01:39:03+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0015-0069@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "mary whalen",
        "address": "marewhalen at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-07-02T17:59:46+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re:  Fifth Head of Cerberus, Beuzec",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "This is Sean Whalen (prion).\n\nI'd like to thank mantis and Borski for their welcome and quick and\ninformative replies.  I'm going to have to think about how to find\nmore evidence for some of their/my theories.\n\nBy the way, like so much else discussed on this list, prion has more\nthan one meaning, if you want to look for it.\n\nFirst, about the original Jeannine in the photo.  Aunt Jeannine tells\nNo. 5 that she will show him a picture of his true mother, and gives\nhim the photo of the woman and child.  If this is his mother, it must\nbe his biological one, since a clone, like anyone else, has no other\nkind.  If it is No. 5's biological mother, then she must be the\nbiological mother of the original Gene Wolfe, and thus would not be\nmarried to her son, as is shown in your timeline, and is part of the\nsource of the confusion I discussed in my original post.\n\nAlso, I've learned a little more about the Pleiades.  In ancient\nmythology, the dimmest of the stars there was named Merope, but today\nit is called Asterope or Sterope (it switched it's name with a\ndifferent one).  Merope means eloquent (with op meaning voice),\nSterope means lightning or stubborn face (with op meaning face), and\nAsterope means star eye (with op meaning eye).  In myths, Merope is\nseparate from Sterope, but Sterope is sometimes known as Asterope. \nThe other sisters are Maia, Elektra, Taygete, Kelaino, and Alkyone.\n\nBecause of this, I think that the (physical, but not symbolic) reason\nDr. Marsch couldn't see the Shadow Children constellation is that it\nis a dim group of stars, and he just couldn't make it out under less\nthan optimum viewing conditions.  I still believe Borski's symbolic\nexplanation of a fake Marsch (VRT) finding a fake Aunt Jeannine later.\n However, since the stars are the eyes of the Shadow Children, I think\nthis could relate to the name Asterope (Star Eye).  So I think\nJeannine's mythological connections also have to do with Asterope\nreplacing Merope in the modern world, like Jeannine replaced Eugenia\n(as I call the original human).\n\nHmm.  Since Merope means eloquent, with the op portion meaning voice,\ndoes this have anything to do with Sweetmouth?\n\nThere are also two different stories on how the seven daughters of\nPleione were put in the sky.  One is that Zeus turned them into a\nflock of seven pigeons/doves in the sky so they could escape from\nOrion, who later became a constellation himself, still chasing them. \nThe second is that they wept to death when their half-sisters the\nHyades died, and Zeus made them into stars to be near the Hyades\nconstellation.  Also (!) there are two different words the name\nPleiades could come from:  peleia (dove) or pleo (I sail). \nSignificance?\n\nConcerning Beuzec as the slug... I've just remembered that every one\nof Hethor's creatures (try saying that five times fast!) had a dual\nnature.  The notules looked like bats when flying, paper scraps when\nfeeding.  The salamander looked like a small black figue when curled,\na large bright reptile when unfurled.  The worm was a slow crawler,\nthen a burning leaper.  Beuzec could be the other appearance of the\nslug, or even just a human infected by slug larva, who's going to be\neaten by it as it grows.\n\nIs Beuzec a saint's name?  If it's not, that may be the clincher.\n\nprion"
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      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0015-0072@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Matthew Malthouse",
        "address": "matthew.malthouse at guardian.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "1998-07-03T01:39:03+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Re:  Fifth Head of Cerberus, Beuzec",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0015-0069@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "text": "mary whalen wrote:\n\nThis is Sean Whalen (prion)."
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Is Beuzec a saint's name?  If it's not, that may be the clincher."
        },
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          "text": "An Alta Vista search brings up only 5 references, all to a village in Brittany\nBeuzec-Cap-Sizun (commune de 1000 habitants en Bretagne) \n\nMost of the references are non existant I'm afraid\n\nStanding stone, Finistère, Brittany, Nearest town: Pont-l'Abbé, Nearest\nvillages: Lanvénael and Beuzec\nhttp://joshua.micronet.it/utenti/dmeozzi/France/Inglese/Lanvenael.html\n\nMake of that what you will\n\nMatthew"
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